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Satan has control over his unaware followers; so he stirs in them vain desires and vain dreams; and so they see themselves smart and very intelligent.


Are you saying that because I don't follow Mohammad that I must be following Satan?

In other words I must believe as you do or I am following Satan?

That doesn't leave many options does it? I feel sorry for you.

He suggests to them by sending to them, by inspiration, his Satanic suggestions to the convolutions (or gyri) of their brains. Moreover, he – being an invisible spiritual being – stands before them, spread out his hands and shouts in their faces: "turn back from going to such and such good work", and he entice them to be against God their true Master, the Most Gracious.


So an invisible being is screaming in my face and I don't know it but he can put ideas in my head even though I can't hear him? If he is invisible why do I care? You could say a billion invisible devils were screaming at me but if I can't see them and hear them, then why do I care? If I can't see someone or hear them then they can't put ideas into my head.

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eanassir, this is what I mean, your statement would make perfect sense to a delusional person; it is exactly what a paranoid might think: "invisible people are following me around screaming at me and implanting ideas in my head," but it is not even slightly sane.

One very key ingredient of mental illness (paranoid schizophrenia) is the belief, deep down, that they're god. Anyone insane believes this even if they don't readily admit it. Your Mohammad guy thinks he's god and he is paranoid therefore he is a nut job.

It really is that simple. I read his book and two things were obvious: he was talented and he was insane.

This is in the Quran 43: 62
وَلَا يَصُدَّنَّكُمُ الشَّيْطَانُ إِنَّهُ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ مُّبِينٌ
The explanation: (Let not Satan hinder you [people]; for he is to you an enemy avowed.)


Satan isn't much of a threat if he is invisible and mute. The real threat is from zealots who would murder nonbelievers and think they follow an invisible "Satan;" that is scary!

How do you know your Mohammad isn't Satan eanassir? He certainly has brought a lot of evil to the world; doesn't that seem like something Satan would do? Oh, and look! Mohammad wasn't invisible; now that is a real threat indeed! Satan doesn't inspire suicide bombers Mohammad does! Doesn't that tell you something eanassir? It seriously should.

The nose is the route of entry of the soul (or the ghost) when man regains his consciousness following the temporary departure of the soul (or the ghost) from the body by coma or fainting.

That's just stupid and more evidence that Mohammad was a retard..
 
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If we investigate all the religions and doctrines now prevailing on earth; we see almost most of them are the religions of association with God: they associate others with God through the way of enthusiasm concerning their prophets and religious leaders.


  • Some are enthusiastic about Abraham and Jacob and the prophets among his sons ;
  • Others are enthusiastic about Jesus and other patron saints;
  • Another sect even are enthusiastic about Mohammed, his comrades and Ali and his sons;
  • Some associate Satan with God, and fear him as do they fear God or more, etc.
The true original religion proceeds from God, and invites people exclusively to Him alone; but later on the enthusiasm (by the work of Satan) will lead them to glorify their prophet and their religious leaders: making them like patrons together with their true Master: their Creator.

A true prophet is that who invites people: to God That sent him, to glorify Him alone, and to consecrate their work and servitude to Him alone.

Therefore this is the indicative mark: if the apostle proceeds from God, he will invite people to God alone and not to anyone else besides Him.

The true apostle sent by God will invite people to glorify Him that sent him, and not to glorify any prophet or any other creature.

On the contrary, if the apostle invites them to glorify Jesus, Moses, Ali or Abdul- Qadir, then he is false and a liar.

The liar cannot bring the pure monotheism; because he himself will be misguided and cannot reach to this pure monotheism and complete submission to God alone.




Therefore, The Mormon religion is true (it only glorifies God) and the Islamic book the Koran seems to have errors, because it says there are no more prophets.
 

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Are you saying that because I don't follow Mohammad that I must be following Satan?
In other words I must believe as you do or I am following Satan?

That doesn't leave many options does it? I feel sorry for you.


So an invisible being is screaming in my face and I don't know it but he can put ideas in my head even though I can't hear him? If he is invisible why do I care? You could say a billion invisible devils were screaming at me but if I can't see them and hear them, then why do I care? If I can't see someone or hear them then they can't put ideas into my head.


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eanassir, this is what I mean, your statement would make perfect sense to a delusional person; it is exactly what a paranoid might think: "invisible people are following me around screaming at me and implanting ideas in my head," but it is not even slightly sane.

One very key ingredient of mental illness (paranoid schizophrenia) is the belief, deep down, that they're god. Anyone insane believes this even if they don't readily admit it. Your Mohammad guy thinks he's god and he is paranoid therefore he is a nut job.

It really is that simple. I read his book and two things were obvious: he was talented and he was insane.


Satan isn't much of a threat if he is invisible and mute. The real threat is from zealots who would murder nonbelievers and think they follow an invisible "Satan;" that is scary!​

How do you know your Mohammad isn't Satan eanassir? He certainly has brought a lot of evil to the world; doesn't that seem like something Satan would do? Oh, and look! Mohammad wasn't invisible; now that is a real threat indeed! Satan doesn't inspire suicide bombers Mohammad does! Doesn't that tell you something eanassir? It seriously should.​

That's just stupid and more evidence that Mohammad was a retard..​


By God's will I shall refute all these points that you said.

But beforehand all members may see you have evaded the required answer; because you said in your reply of Yesterday, 09:24 PM
"I have read the Koran and that is how I know Mohammad was bat $hit crazy"

And I replied to you on Yesterday, 11:34 PM
"Have you read the Quran in Arabic?And if Mohammed was crazy, as you say, enumerate the points in summary that have lead you to adopt this opinion."

So now I say you have evaded the required answer; because you said some words against the Quran and Mohammed and you couldn't prove it.


 

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Therefore, The Mormon religion is true (it only glorifies God) and the Islamic book the Koran seems to have errors, because it says there are no more prophets.

This is the temptation; this is the delusion and confusion by Satan.

These in fact are the top of enthusiasm about Jesus considering him as God Himself and the son of God,
and they are associaters: they associated their religious men with God,
and claimed that God showed Himself to one of them!!

Glory be to God; God cannot be seen by the eye nor by the sight.

This is in the Quran 6: 103
لاَّ تُدْرِكُهُ الأَبْصَارُ وَهُوَ يُدْرِكُ الأَبْصَارَ وَهُوَ اللَّطِيفُ الْخَبِيرُ
The explanation: (Sights perceive Him not, but He does perceive sights, and He is the Compassionate, the Well-Aware.)

Similar to this in the Gospel; Jesus said:

Mat. 6: 17-18 "But you, when you fast, anoint your head, and wash your face;
That you appear not to men to fast, but to your Lord Who is in secret: and your Lord, Who sees in secret, shall reward you openly."

Moreover, God – be glorified – said in the Quran 42: 11
لَيْسَ كَمِثْلِهِ شَيْءٌ وَهُوَ السَّمِيعُ البَصِيرُ
The explanation: (There is not, as His likeness, anything; He is the All-Hearing, the All-Seeing.)

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Nope, sorry. Its obvious you don't understand the religion.

Also, the Koran is the only book that states God doesn't appear to man, other books (including the Torah) claim it do.

So why is the Koran the only correct book (hint, it isn't).
 

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Nope, sorry. Its obvious you don't understand the religion.

Also, the Koran is the only book that states God doesn't appear to man, other books (including the Torah) claim it do.

So why is the Koran the only correct book (hint, it isn't).

Glory be to God!
The Quran is the only heavenly book that states God doesn't appear to man.
This is it.
The truth is crying aloud.

This proves the other books have been distorted.
See how the priest Ezra wrote his Torah, following their return from the captivity of Babylon.
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/#The_Torah_[or_Hebrew_Bible]_of_Ezra_

There have been a large number of mistakes in the torah of Ezra, which is the present Torah (much of it included in the Old Testament.)
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com/#the_mistake_in_the_torah_of_ezra

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The truth is crying aloud.
Maybe so, but that's probably because you've beaten it up pretty badly in this thread, and most of your other threads. Here's what the weight of evidence shows:

Mars is not inhabited.
Al-Hilly is wrong about almost everything.
There is no god, he's an invention of human need and imagination, a comforting fiction.
The Quran is not true.
I'm not going to Hell and neither is anyone else, there's no such place.
You're not going to Paradise and neither is anyone else, there's no such place.
You're entirely ignorant of what science is and how it works.
Your idea of evidence is based on authority and wishful thinking.
You have not a clue how to think clearly, or answer a question without reference to the Quran.
You'll never accept any of these statements, except this one.
You're not stupid, but you might as well be for all the difference it makes. You're sunk in 7th century superstition.
 
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By God's will I shall refute all these points that you said.

But beforehand all members may see you have evaded the required answer; because you said in your reply of Yesterday, 09:24 PM
"I have read the Koran and that is how I know Mohammad was bat $hit crazy"

And I replied to you on Yesterday, 11:34 PM
"Have you read the Quran in Arabic?And if Mohammed was crazy, as you say, enumerate the points in summary that have lead you to adopt this opinion."

So now I say you have evaded the required answer; because you said some words against the Quran and Mohammed and you couldn't prove it.


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But I did prove it?

He is a megalomaniac and a psychotic. It is very obvious from his writing. He sees things, hear things and believes he has secret knowledge (which he doesn't seem willing to share except where it is improvable and suspiciously like an episode).

Statistically speaking there are probably a dozen people like Mohammad (or Jesus) alive today; some get help some don't but back in Mohammad's time such people were considered holy. No one knew what mental illness was and they took such people "seers, mystics and oracles" very seriously. Today, thankfully, they are generally put on medication and not typically allowed to start holy wars.

Mohammad as I said was talented so he was better able to persuade people his delusions were true. He was probably charismatic and a good social engineer too.

Even today mentally ill people are some of our best artists because their odd perspective can shed new light on ourselves we couldn't normally perceive. Some estimates put the creative community in New York at 50% bipolar! That is why it is so significant that Mohammad only built on the ideas which were current in his day. He was not being inspired by god he was inspired by a madness.

Look at all the amazing people through history with great talents. There was nothing to stop them from starting religions except their sanity.Yet others like Manson, L Ron Hubbard (started his religion on a bet), Sun Myung Moon, David Keresh, Joseph Smith (confessed in court to fraud 1 year before starting his religion), Baha'u'llah (started his religion to create a dynasty) etc,... that is the company Mohammad keeps.

And just to be fair, yes I think Jesus was an egomaniac too. Normal people don't hear voices from god in their heads or get messages any other way from god. Even fewer want hoards of followers. Those things all add up to a mental illness.

Talent at poetry or any other art form is not proof of the divine. We have too many very talented people in the world to fall for that. People can be unbelievably talented - it is no proof they are from god.

The only proof someone can provide is knowledge we wouldn't otherwise have. This needs to be tangible and true. It can't be convoluted and ambiguous. There are no devils, Jinn, angels, flying horses or people on Mars. As a result Mohammad fails! He isn't anything but an ancient lunatic that is destroying the world.

 
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Here's what the weight of evidence shows:
Mars is not inhabited.


I say it is inhabited; your words are written down in your reply; and we shall see.

Al-Hilly is wrong about almost everything.


He is correct.

There is no god, he's an invention of human need and imagination, a comforting fiction.


God exists, and nature is His work.
The atheist denies God to free himself from binding to the Commandments of God, and will also deny the next world for the same reason; so that he will cheat himself: that there is no god, not any life following death, and indulge in his desires.



The Quran is not true.

The Glorious Quran is true.

I'm not going to Hell and neither is anyone else, there's no such place.


None can assert this. Hell is three sites:
During this World and following death:
1. the fire of volcanoes which leads to the core of the earth.
2. the sun.
Following the Doomsday and Judgment:
3. Saqar: which is a sun bigger than the present sun, and will appear in the neighborhood after the explosion of the present sun.
Hell

You're not going to Paradise and neither is anyone else, there's no such place.


None can assert this. Paradise is ethereal, not material, to which the righteous souls will be admitted. Paradise is two steps:
1. The Paradise of Abode: following death; for the righteous and martyrs.
2. The Paradise of Everlasting or Prosperity; the righteous souls will be admitted to them following the Judgment.
Paradise (or the Garden)

Moreover, we believe God and in the Unseen or the Unknown or the Forefuture, it means: We believe in angels, Doomsday, Judgment, Paradise, Hell when all these are hidden, unseen, unknown and the forefuture.
This is in the Quran 2: 1-5



1.الم
2.ذَلِكَ الْكِتَابُ لاَ رَيْبَ فِيهِ هُدًى لِّلْمُتَّقِينَ
3.الَّذِينَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِالْغَيْبِ وَيُقِيمُونَ الصَّلاةَ وَمِمَّا رَزَقْنَاهُمْ يُنفِقُونَ
4.والَّذِينَ يُؤْمِنُونَ بِمَا أُنزِلَ إِلَيْكَ وَمَا أُنزِلَ مِن قَبْلِكَ وَبِالآخِرَةِ هُمْ يُوقِنُونَ
5.أُوْلَـئِكَ عَلَى هُدًى مِّن رَّبِّهِمْ وَأُوْلَـئِكَ هُمُ الْمُفْلِحُونَ

The explanation:
1.(Alif, Lam, Miem.الم
[These three letters are some of the alphabet letters; each letter resembles a word; the letter is at the beginning of the word; like UN which means United Nations. These are among some puzzles included in the Glorious Quran; Al-Hilly gave the solution of this puzzle which none may know unless by God's inspiration.]
The explanation: (Recite To them, O Mohammed!)

2. That Scripture [or Book: the Quran written before the revelation of this aya: the Quran is the recital of Gabriel to Mohammed, then it was written on the parchment it became a written book], whereof there is no doubt, a guidance to those who ward off [God's punishment.]
3. Who believe in the Unseen, are steadfast in prayer, and spend out of what We have provided for them.
4. And who believe in that [Quran] which is revealed to you [Mohammed] and that [Torah and Gospel] which was revealed before you, and are certain of the Hereafter.
5. These have guidance from their Lord. These are the successful.
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Therefore, people are of two kinds: some believe in God alone, in the next spiritual life and in the Quran; while others disbelieve and deny all that; it does not mean that these deniers and disbelievers are correct; on the contrary they are in extreme error whatever they insist on their assertions.

So this is the difference; you are unaware of the essential facts of God's existence and oneness and blinding yourself of His might and marvelous signs in the heavens and the earth.

You're not stupid, but you might as well be for all the difference it makes. You're sunk in 21st century atheism as well as the same old suggestions of the past centuries.

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Look, you are in a science thread.

You have faith, you cannot prove the Koran is true. We've asked you several times, and you can't.

Don't be ashamed of that, its called faith for a reason. But stop insulting intelligence by pretending its verifiabley true.

You believe it is true, and your faith is strong enough you don't need proof. Be happy with that and don't lie about the Koran.
 

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You said "I read the Quran", and I asked you: "did you read it in Arabic?"
You replied: "No, in English."

Now, is the Quran an English book or an Arabic one? [Although I think you know Arabic; and you said: "I read the Quran" and didn't say: I read the translation of the meaning of the Quran.]

Anyhow, it may make no much difference, whether you know Arabic or not.

This is because the Quran was revealed in Arabic, the apostle Mohammed was one of the Arab; he spoke to them with their language; in order that they may understand him and the Quran.

The translation is not like the origin; this is clearly manifested by the existence of many translations of the meaning of the Quran. Therefore, I give the Arabic text of the Quran together with its meaning in English; lest any reader should think that the English is the Quran, while it is only its interpretation in English.

This is applicable also about the Bible translations; to which many examples are available.

How can anyone translate the word of God the All-Knowing!? That is because there is a deep hidden meaning of the Quran, in addition to the external apparent meaning; there are puzzles included and many foretellings and ayat that are ambiguous; so that none may know their meaning other than God.

In case you do not know Arabic (which I doubt); you have to know that the Quran is like the deep vast ocean, and its ayat are like the pearls precious jewels with various sizes. The Quran explains itself: its parts explain each other by comparison. It includes a large number of science and knowledge disciplines that branch and rebranch to give a tremendous amount of knowledge and more to be derived.

If truly you have read the Quran and understood its meanings and implications, then tell us what is the difference between the two words in the first aya in the book of the Quran:
بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ
These are two words derived from the root word رحم which means the "mercy".
What is the difference between them?

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Ahem, that still doesn't prove the Koran is true.

Its still just faith with no proof, you haven't proven that.
 

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Then, after stating that you have read the Quran, you said "Mohammed was crazy"; and I told you to enumerate the points that let you adopt such an opinion; and mention your points in summary; in order that I may answer you about them one by one.

But you replied in the way of Newspaper displaying; anyhow I shall reply to these non-distinctive points.

he thought he talked to god. Nothing in that book was evidence that he did.


The strange thing is that you contradict yourself: once you say "he thought he talked to God." Then you said: "Nothing in that book was evidence that he did".
So from where you brought this claim; when God revealed to Mohammed; the one to whom God spoke was Prophet Moses.


He didn't demonstrate anything that wasn't already known. He brought nothing new to the world except his rantings.


To this ranting, I shall not reply; because it is evident to all humanity and the historians.


Very much like Jesus or any other prophet. They bring exactly what you would expect if they were mentally ill - nothing but strong opinions and unfulfilled delusions of grandeur.

So the strong opinion is wrong, and what is additional? unfulfilled delusions of grandeur. What is that?


Don't get me wrong, they might have been nice people, meant well, intelligent, articulate etc,. but also mad as hatters and vacant of anything except a new perspective on rehashed ideas that were current for their time.

Their presence (prophets) and ministries are proof of nothing because they are in themselves plagiarisms. Almost exclusively all social development that happens after them happens despite their work not because of it. Then another loony comes along and claims that as his!

It's just another example of how religious people are so quick to attribute the works of brilliant people to a sky god instead of where it truly belongs.

Are these the points how you prove these prophets who taught humanity all virtues and ideals and excellent manners, and you prove them mad?
Beware lest God makes their enemies mad and lunatic.
 

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So you didn't answer yourself.

He believed he talked to god, what proof is there (not using the koran because thats self referencing) that he did?

Not using the Koran, prove he spoke to god and this is science not faith?
 

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You said "I read the Quran", and I asked you: "did you read it in Arabic?"
You replied: "No, in English."

Now, is the Quran an English book or an Arabic one? [Although I think you know Arabic; and you said: "I read the Quran" and didn't say: I read the translation of the meaning of the Quran.]

Anyhow, it may make no much difference, whether you know Arabic or not.

This is because the Quran was revealed in Arabic, the apostle Mohammed was one of the Arab; he spoke to them with their language; in order that they may understand him and the Quran.

The translation is not like the origin; this is clearly manifested by the existence of many translations of the meaning of the Quran. Therefore, I give the Arabic text of the Quran together with its meaning in English; lest any reader should think that the English is the Quran, while it is only its interpretation in English.

This is applicable also about the Bible translations; to which many examples are available.

How can anyone translate the word of God the All-Knowing!? That is because there is a deep hidden meaning of the Quran, in addition to the external apparent meaning; there are puzzles included and many foretellings and ayat that are ambiguous; so that none may know their meaning other than God.

In case you do not know Arabic (which I doubt); you have to know that the Quran is like the deep vast ocean, and its ayat are like the pearls precious jewels with various sizes. The Quran explains itself: its parts explain each other by comparison. It includes a large number of science and knowledge disciplines that branch and rebranch to give a tremendous amount of knowledge and more to be derived.

If truly you have read the Quran and understood its meanings and implications, then tell us what is the difference between the two words in the first aya in the book of the Quran:
بِسْمِ اللّهِ الرَّحْمَنِ الرَّحِيمِ
These are two words derived from the root word رحم which means the "mercy".
What is the difference between them?

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There is deep hidden meaning in all poetry no matter the language. This is because the reader is reflected in the poetry not because of any meaning the poet might have intended. This is why century after century poetry can be enjoyed and reinterpreted. Since religionists don't seem to understand this they continually reinterpret their leaders works as though he knew more than he could have. You could do the same thing with any work of art, Nostradamus comes to mind but even Beowulf or the Iliad could be interpreted as having meaning now; that doesn't mean the author intended it. In reading the Koran it was obvious Mohammad was an ignorant (of reality and the future) but a talented artist non the less. That he says so many ridiculous things is evidence of this and though you would call them "mysteries' they are anything but. You can contemplate them and discover new ways of looking at the world but that doesn't mean Mohammad intended that, he clearly didn't, that is the power of artistic expression. It is no small thing but it isn't from god either.
 

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But you replied in the way of Newspaper displaying; anyhow I shall reply to these non-distinctive points.


I'm sorry but I have no idea what that means.

The strange thing is that you contradict yourself: once you say "he thought he talked to God." Then you said: "Nothing in that book was evidence that he did".

I don't see a contradiction but let me reword my statement anyway that I might be clearer: He thought he talked to god but the Koran gives no evidence that he did.

So from where you brought this claim; when God revealed to Mohammed; the one to whom God spoke was Prophet Moses.

Moses was a mass murdering, maniacal, egotistical sack of $hit, not a prophet.

If Moses was a prophet then god is evil.

To this ranting, I shall not reply; because it is evident to all humanity and the historians.

Then list them. Put up or shut up.

What is plain for the world to see is that Mohammad was a useless weed.

So the strong opinion is wrong, and what is additional? unfulfilled delusions of grandeur. What is that?

A strong opinion (like n is from god) is absolutely wrong in and of itself because it has no proof or evidence to support it. This leads to radicalism because the people must become extreme to believe what is otherwise obviously untenable.

Take racists for example; they become extreme because what they say and believe (with faith) has no sustainable evidence to support it, they therefore become radical because they must push out reason.

Where once the Middle East was the worlds centre for art, literature, science and culture it is now a cesspool of ignorance, intolerance and fanaticism. This is what your Mohammad has done to the world! He has darkened a precious gem so it can shine no longer.

Are these the points how you prove these prophets who taught humanity all virtues and ideals and excellent manners,

It is a matter of historical record that prophets did not teach virtues and ideals. The ones they did teach were plagiarisms. Our virtues and ideals are the product of social evolution.

and you prove them mad?

Yes, just by claiming they are from god means they are insane.

Beware lest God makes their enemies mad and lunatic.

The camps of the religionists are confused, bewildered and in utter turmoil. If it were not for oil the Middle East not Africa would be the hub of poverty and famine. The Muslim faith grows only because it is propagated by mullahs whom feed off of and fan your idiocy.

God has already made his followers mad and lunatic. Sanity lies only in throwing off the shackles of religion. To the extent that you believe without evidence or reason is the extent of your madness.
 

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There is deep hidden meaning in all poetry no matter the language. This is because the reader is reflected in the poetry not because of any meaning the poet might have intended. This is why century after century poetry can be enjoyed and reinterpreted. Since religionists don't seem to understand this they continually reinterpret their leaders works as though he knew more than he could have. You could do the same thing with any work of art, Nostradamus comes to mind but even Beowulf or the Iliad could be interpreted as having meaning now; that doesn't mean the author intended it. In reading the Koran it was obvious Mohammad was an ignorant (of reality and the future) but a talented artist non the less. That he says so many ridiculous things is evidence of this and though you would call them "mysteries' they are anything but. You can contemplate them and discover new ways of looking at the world but that doesn't mean Mohammad intended that, he clearly didn't, that is the power of artistic expression. It is no small thing but it isn't from god either.

One time you say Mohammed was crazy, and another time you say he was talented artist, and another time you compare the Quran to poetry with deep meaning.
Is the Quran poetry? Was Mohammed crazy?

Is the Quran some poetry then?

What do you know about the law of inheritance or heritage (of the deceased) in the Quran?

In only few ayat, the inheritance of the deceased is distributed among his sons, daughters, parents, and others, and different probabilities are stated:

in case he has one parent or both and how much his mother's share and his father's share,

in case he has a grandmother and a grandfather,

and in case his widow is alive what is her share,

in case her other sons are alive, and how much share will be given, and to his brother or sister in case he has no sons and daughters;

many details are given to different situations and all that is according to arithmetic calculations.

These are only some examples and there are more details in this subject of the inheritance.

And what bequest or will that he should recommend and how about the debt he was indebted.

The deceased has no right to recommend all his wealth to one of his sons or relative or friend and leave the rest of his family deprived; but he has the right of disposal in only one third of his wealth, and the rest has to be distributed according to the law of inheritance in the Quran.

This is not like what some non-religious communities allow: that the deceased may recommend all his wealth to his dog, and leave the members of his family without any share.
 

L Gilbert

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Nope, sorry. Its obvious you don't understand the religion.

Also, the Koran is the only book that states God doesn't appear to man, other books (including the Torah) claim it do.

So why is the Koran the only correct book (hint, it isn't).
Exactly. None are. Not only is there no sliver of evidence to point to the existence of gods n demons, there is no evidence pointing to the existence on one god. The whole idea of these "beings" is thoroughly irrational.
Like I said in another thread, churches, religions, faiths, whatever you wish to call them absolutely love ignorance and stupidity. Might as well have Dr. Seuss explain our universe to us.
 

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Exactly. None are. Not only is there no sliver of evidence to point to the existence of gods n demons, there is no evidence pointing to the existence on one god. The whole idea of these "beings" is thoroughly irrational.
Like I said in another thread, churches, religions, faiths, whatever you wish to call them absolutely love ignorance and stupidity. Might as well have Dr. Seuss explain our universe to us.

Capitalism likes ignorance and stupidity too. It is much like religions who not only like ignorance and stupidity but activly promote both and have for a long time. With capitalism we can see the power of the god figure replaced by the power of money and method. However lets not rub the religious to hard because if the truth be known modern science hasn't explained the universe very well yet either, though I do believe they have a slightly better chance. The universe is not explainable in it's entirety to humans, somehow I think it will always remain out of our reach, and I know the probability of me being correct in that thinking is 100%. She's very very big and we are very very little and we won't last long enough.
 

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uh huh, any logic at all to back your claims about Capitalism?

its not even remotely the same. Capitalism isn't a belief structure or a love of money. Humanity has a love of power, Capitalism is a method of distributing power, a pretty simple one too. And despite its flaws, people like it. You don't, thats fine. Don't live that way, but don't think others are going to change their lifestyles to support you.