Mars is inhabited.

[Zzarchov]

Eanassir, your "facts" are glaring points that you didn't read any background material.

1.) Phobos and Demos (the two moons of Mars) are far FAR smaller than our moon. Thats how it attracts 2 moons despite being smaller.

You are basically saying "If Mars is (poorer) than Earth, how come Mars has two (pennies) but Earth has only one (dollar)?"

Other faults include your rightful inclusion of "You can only say there is no proof of live"

But you then ignore the fact THERE IS PROOF LIFE AS WE KNOW IT CANNOT PHYSICALLY EXIST ON MARS.

I also can only say "There is no proof people do not live on the surface of the sun" by your logic.


Seriously, you want the Koran to be right so you ignore everything that proves it is wrong. Don't claim it is science, its faith.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

I say:
These data may change with time, may be in the near future. You have no right to say there is no life and there is no people; but you may say: We have not yet found evidence of life.​

I didn't say there's no life, I said there might be something at about the level of bacteria but there are certainly no people on Mars. People evolved on earth, nobody from here has ever gone to Mars, therefore there are no people there.

I say:
Suppose, the ice will sublimate ( which is not logical)...

It's perfectly logical, you can observe it for yourself right here on earth in the winter time, if you're paying attention. In fact, if you have a self-defrosting refrigerator, you can observe it anytime in a tray of ice cubes.

I say:
Suppose it is not large, then how will it attract 2 moons (while earth attracts its single moon)? And will it be at a more distance than Earth away from the sun? And how will its year be longer than our year and its day should be longer than our day?

There's no supposition about it, Mars' size is well known. There's no necessary relationship between the size of a body and how far from the sun it has to be. Mars' moons are tiny, Mars is a lot closer to the asteroid belt than Earth, the asteroids are frequently perturbed by Jupiter's gravitational effects, it's not hard to imagine Mars capturing a couple of wanderers. Mars' year is as long as it is because of where Mars is; that's how long it takes to orbit the sun at that distance. The length of a day on Mars similarly is mostly unrelated to its distance, except for the tidal effects that are lengthening it, it's mostly a matter of the residual angular momentum left over from its formation.

I say:
If it was a thin atmosphere and its atmospheric pressure was so low, then how could such a thin atmosphere bear the cirrus cloud which include ice?

I'd have thought that would be perfectly obvious even to you: it's thin, but not too thin for cirrus clouds to form.

I say:
How can you assert that? And how can the aberrant situation of these two planets explained?

I can assert that because it's true: there is no evidence that there was ever life on Mercury or Venus. I don't know what you think the "aberrant situation" of these two planets is.

I say:
The region of this planet facing the sun will certainly be hotter than the rest of the surface which will be bitterly frozen because of its far distance from the sun. Then the heat will be distributed in decreasing temperature pattern which will be colder as they go away from the centre facing the sun.

All of Uranus is bitterly frozen. It's true that the sun-facing side will be warmer, but you missed the point entirely. Uranus does not always have one of its poles pointing toward the sun. The axis of rotation maintains the same orientation in space throughout its orbit.

I say:
No man pertaining to science can allege this; a scientist cannot say other than: We have no evidence yet.

Fine. How than can you justify saying "there are people, other than us, there on the planets." Got any evidence for that? And don't tell me "This is in the Quran..." That's not evidence.

Realistically though, we do have evidence. We have a pretty good idea what conditions are like on the surfaces of the other planets, we know what kind of conditions people can survive in, and except for Earth, there are no matches.

I say:
You are not a believer in the creation; therefore you say such words.

It's not a matter of belief at all, it's what the evidence shows, to anyone capable of understanding it.

I say:

That is because they don't imagine the comet as fireball; they believe the comet is a dirty ice mass.

And they're correct, as you could easily verify if you'd do a little research.


Your oft-repeated assertion that comets land preferentially in earth's colder regions because they're drawn to the cold parts is simply false. Temperature is not a factor in orbital mechanics. And I am most definitely not, as you assert, "proud over Al-Hilly's interpretation of the Quran." Even allowing for the fact that English probably isn't your first language, I have no idea what you think that might mean, but whatever word you wanted, proud isn't it. Al-Hilly's interpretation of the Quran in a scientific context is illiterate, ignorant, illogical, and wrong.

Why do you persist in this foolishness? Everywhere on the Internet that you've posted this kind of stuff--and this is by no means the only place--you've got the same response. Does it not occur to you that maybe you're the one that's wrong?
​

 

[darkbeaver]

E A Nassir is certainly a strong man. Earth has as many impact craters as any other planet. The Carolina field is dated at 12000 bc, just in time for a large mamal extinction event.

 

[darkbeaver]

"The Younger Dryas Impact Event": The deglaciation that followed the last ice age was abruptly and dramatically interrupted ~12,900 years ago by widespread cooling that marks the onset of the Younger Dryas. Much evidence shows that the Younger Dryas was marked by abrupt changes in ice sheet configuration, the sudden emptying of proglacial lakes, diversion of North American flood-waters to the northern Atlantic, and the reorganization of thermohaline circulation. Nevertheless, significant questions have recently emerged about timing and direction of major freshwater flows to the oceans, in turn raising questions about the triggering mechanism for the Younger Dryas. The onset of the Younger Dryas also appears to have coincided with massive, widespread, and punctuated changes in animal biota and Paleolithic cultural development centered in North and South America. This is represented by the most recent of all mass extinctions, the disappearance of the megafauna of the Americas, including mammoths, horses, and ground sloths and the termination of Clovis and other contemporaneous Paleolithic human cultures.
The cause of these changes is highly controversial and much debated, but is likely tied to the severe environmental changes that occurred at the beginning of the Younger Dryas. Another hypothesis attributes the extinctions to overhunting by Clovis people and other Paleolithic hunters or to pandemics associated with human migrations. However, all these hypotheses appear to fall short in satisfactorily explaining much available evidence. A new hypothesis posits that Younger Dryas cooling was instead triggered by extraterrestrial impacts that caused ice sheet destabilization, flood-water rediversion, and changes in ocean circulation.
This work offers newly uncovered evidence for an ET impact or airbursts at 12.9 ka including end-Clovis-age sediments throughout North America with high levels of iridium, magnetic and carbon spherules, glass-like carbon, fullerenes, and ET noble gas ratios often in association with carbonaceous layers ("black mats") with unusual biota.
In this session, we invite abstracts that will explore the strengths and weaknesses of existing and new hypotheses that attempt to explain the cause of the Younger Dryas, changes in global climate, the extinctions, and human cultural changes.
We are in

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/1...mic-Catastrophes-Climate-Scientists-Awakening

 

[darkbeaver]

Immanuel Velikovsky demonstrated rather convincingly that there was massive evidence of both a literary and scientific nature that great catastrophic earth changes had occurred during the second millennium BC due to cometary showers and the close passage of Venus. He settled on a date of 1450 BC, but more recent scientific evidence points to the date actually being 1628 BC. There is also evidence for a disruption circa 5200 BC, 8,800 BC, 12,400 BC, 16,000 BC, 19,600 BC, and by logical extension every 3,600 years previously for an indefinite and unknown period of time. What is more, if the last "return" was in 1628 BC, we are not just due, we are overdue for the next one. The theories about Nibiru do not take into account many of the literary reports from the ancients regarding these great bombardments of comets. Velikovsky tried to account for this by suggesting that a cometary Venus was hauling around a tail of rocks. It seems that Velikovsky and his supporters, and Sitchin and his supporters, although recognizing serious worldwide catastrophes, have failed to recognize the true nature of such events. Velikovsky proposed that Venus out of orbit was a more or less one-time event rather than a symptom of a long term cycle. Sitchin came closer with his understanding of the cycle, but he failed to consider all the variables in his solution. What is more, once he settled on his idea as the one and only solution, his efforts to make the mythical elements fit the hypothesis became almost as absurd as the efforts of mainstream science to avoid them!
The confirmed linchpin for the fall of the late Bronze Age cultures, the Middle Eastern Civilizations, and other recorded disasters that are found to be "around that time," seems to be the period from 1644 BC t
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/13...ists-Awakening

 

[eanassir]

E A Nassir is certainly a strong man. Earth has as many impact craters as any other planet. The Carolina field is dated at 12000 bc, just in time for a large mamal extinction event.

Ha darkbeaver!
The strength is only granted by God.
Then when was the Tuguska blast? 4 days from now, will be the passing of 100 years on its occurrence.
http://universeandquran.site.io/new_page_3.htm#The_Comet_of_Tunguska

eanassir

http://universeandquran.site.io​

 

[darkbeaver]

Ha darkbeaver!
The strength is only granted by God.
Then when was the Tuguska blast? 4 days from now, will be the passing of 100 years on its occurrence.
http://universeandquran.site.io/new_page_3.htm#The_Comet_of_Tunguska

eanassir

http://universeandquran.site.io​

I have no doubt God smiles on you. Apparently those Tuguska like events are common, happening every day on a smaller scale.

 

[eanassir]

Immanuel Velikovsky demonstrated rather convincingly that there was massive evidence of both a literary and scientific nature that great catastrophic earth changes had occurred during the second millennium BC due to cometary showers and the close passage of Venus. He settled on a date of 1450 BC, but more recent scientific evidence points to the date actually being 1628 BC. There is also evidence for a disruption circa 5200 BC, 8,800 BC, 12,400 BC, 16,000 BC, 19,600 BC, and by logical extension every 3,600 years previously for an indefinite and unknown period of time. What is more, if the last "return" was in 1628 BC, we are not just due, we are overdue for the next one. The theories about Nibiru do not take into account many of the literary reports from the ancients regarding these great bombardments of comets. Velikovsky tried to account for this by suggesting that a cometary Venus was hauling around a tail of rocks. It seems that Velikovsky and his supporters, and Sitchin and his supporters, although recognizing serious worldwide catastrophes, have failed to recognize the true nature of such events. Velikovsky proposed that Venus out of orbit was a more or less one-time event rather than a symptom of a long term cycle. Sitchin came closer with his understanding of the cycle, but he failed to consider all the variables in his solution. What is more, once he settled on his idea as the one and only solution, his efforts to make the mythical elements fit the hypothesis became almost as absurd as the efforts of mainstream science to avoid them!
The confirmed linchpin for the fall of the late Bronze Age cultures, the Middle Eastern Civilizations, and other recorded disasters that are found to be "around that time," seems to be the period from 1644 BC t
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/13...ists-Awakening

I see this is only some complex explanation: what would have brought Venus near the earth, while each circulates in its isolated orbit, and whatever Venus gets near, it will not be so close?​

Moreover, what's the relation between Venus and the comets? ​

We can derive a lot of numbers and imagine many things; but what makes one sure about such ideas?​

Was Velikovsky an inspired one, to whom God revealed such information, like there is some periodic 3600 years of changes in the earth and the universe?​

In my personal opinion, I think that all these ideas are imaginary and wrong.​

But some of the miracles of Moses may be explained like the staff of Moses:​

The staff of Moses:​

It was a real and true serpent, and in fact it was not an ordinary staff; it was a stout one. God – be glorified – created it especially for Moses, and put it in his way, so he picked it up and used it.​

It was a true serpent; when Moses picked it, it hid its head and stiffened itself with its scales like the turtle; but Prophet Moses – peace be on him – noticed some particular features in this staff: when he had rest, it would stand and take care about the sheep in the pasture.​

But he did not know it was a true serpent specially created with special criteria.​

Then when God spoke to him, and tasked him with the message, He said to him, as in the Quran 20: 17-21​

وَمَا تِلْكَ بِيَمِينِكَ يَا مُوسَى . قَالَ هِيَ عَصَايَ أَتَوَكَّأُ عَلَيْهَا وَأَهُشُّ بِهَا عَلَى غَنَمِي وَلِيَ فِيهَا مَآرِبُ أُخْرَى . قَالَ أَلْقِهَا يَا مُوسَى . فَأَلْقَاهَا فَإِذَا هِيَ حَيَّةٌ تَسْعَى . قَالَ خُذْهَا وَلَا تَخَفْ سَنُعِيدُهَا سِيرَتَهَا الْأُولَى​

The explanation:
("And what is that by your right hand, O Moses!"
[Moses] said: "It is my staff; on which I lean; with it I drive along my sheep, and in it I find other uses."
[God] said: "Cast it down, O Moses!"
So he cast it down, and it was a snake, moving about.
[God] said: "Take it and fear not. We shall restore it to its first state.")​

It means: When he cast it down, at that time he knew that it was a true serpent; but before then he did not know it was a serpent, although he noticed some strange observations about it. So when he cast it down, it produced its head and start to move on the ground, and when he picked it, it hid its head and stiffened itself with its scales and returned once again to be a staff. ​

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com​

 

[Dexter Sinister]

was Velikovsky an inspired one, to whom God revealed such information...? ​

No. Velikovsky was a crackpot who's been thoroughly discredited. He was wrong about just about everything, and the few times he was right he was right for the wrong reasons. He cherry-picked the entire corpus of human myth and legend for evidence that Venus was erupted from Jupiter and bounced around the solar system for a while, causing various of the events described in the Old Testament, before eventually settling down in its present orbit.
​

 

[eanassir]

I have no doubt God smiles on you.

I hope He may be pleased with me; I hope He wouldn't be wrathful against me.

Apparently those Tuguska like events are common, happening every day on a smaller scale.

These are the meteorites, not the comets; many tons of meteorites and dust settle on earth every day.

 

[eanassir]

No. Velikovsky was a crackpot who's been thoroughly discredited. He was wrong about just about everything, and the few times he was right he was right for the wrong reasons. He cherry-picked the entire corpus of human myth and legend for evidence that Venus was erupted from Jupiter and bounced around the solar system for a while, causing various of the events described in the Old Testament, before eventually settling down in its present orbit. ​

He might not be a crackpot; but his explanations seems imaginary, more than realistic; it may be that some miracles were caused by some natural events; all nature and universe is the creation of God.
If anything had erupted from Jupiter, that was its moons.
Venus was observed by ancients in the far ancient time before the Torah revealed to Moses and before Prophet Abraham even; the people of Abraham were idolaters worshipping Venus, in addition to their many idols.

 

[darkbeaver]

No. Velikovsky was a crackpot who's been thoroughly discredited. He was wrong about just about everything, and the few times he was right he was right for the wrong reasons. He cherry-picked the entire corpus of human myth and legend for evidence that Venus was erupted from Jupiter and bounced around the solar system for a while, causing various of the events described in the Old Testament, before eventually settling down in its present orbit.
​

Why do you speak ill of the dead genius, they were very good books, exciting stuff lots of action. His hydro carbon stuff is bubbling into the news by way of the abiotic nature of oil texas tea isn't piles of squashed dynosaurs and trees. Give the man his deserved credit Dex he put all this stuff forward sixty years ago for christ sake lots of those old testement stories are found elsewhere in wide distribution. What do you make of the red shift discussion eh we don't know squat about the universe or our solar system or the freakin planet for that matter.

 

[Dexter Sinister]

Why do you speak ill of the dead genius...

Because he was wrong about pretty much everything. If you really know anything about science, you can find errors of fact and misinterpretations on just about every page of his books. He didn't know the difference between hydrocarbons and carbohydrates, for instance, he thought a moon couldn't orbit a planet faster than the planet rotates, he invented "facts," arbitrarily changed other facts to suit his thesis, and presented no mathematics in support of his analysis of Venus' behaviour, which any scientist worthy of the title would have to do to have any credibility. His thinking was sloppy and selective and entirely qualitative, and he contributed nothing of any value to our understanding of science or history. To put the mantle of Galileo on him, as his followers keep trying to do, it isn't enough just to be persecuted by the establishment as he was. You also have to right. He wasn't.

 

[eanassir]

I have no doubt God smiles on you.

Don't take this to mean something concerning you in particular; but according to the word "smile":

God – be glorified – [He is the same Allah and Jehovah or Yahweh: the Creator] may not smile or laugh; but: ​

• He mocks: He mocks the hypocrites:

This is in the Quran 2: 15​

اللّهُ يَسْتَهْزِئُ بِهِمْ وَيَمُدُّهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ​

The explanation: (God [Himself] does mock them, offering them [wealth] to let them wander on blindly with their arrogance.)
​

• He tricks the hypocrites; according to this Quranic revelation 4: 142

إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ يُخَادِعُونَ اللّهَ وَهُوَ خَادِعُهُمْ​

The explanation: (The hypocrites seek to trick God, but [in fact] He is tricking them.)
​

• He gradually causes their destruction from whence they are not aware, as in the Quran 7: 182

وَالَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِآيَاتِنَا سَنَسْتَدْرِجُهُم مِّنْ حَيْثُ لاَ يَعْلَمُونَ​

The explanation: (Those who cry lies to Our signs, We will gradually cause their destruction, from whence they are not aware.)
​

• He may devise (or design some plan) against His enemies; as when Quraish plotted against Prophet Mohammed, this is in the Quran 8: 30

وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ​

The explanation: (And [remember, O Mohammed, your Lord's grace on you] when the unbelievers [among Quraish tribesmen] devise against you, as for to capture you, or to kill you or to expel you [from Mecca to another town];
but they devised [against you], and God devised against them, when God is the Best of devisers [so He turned their devising against them instead of being against you.] )

The same situation was of Jesus Christ when they plotted against him so as to crucify him, but God saved him, and they crucified another man similar to him in shape; this is in the Quran 3: 54​

وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ​

The explanation: (Then, the [Jews] devised plottings [against Jesus, so as to kill him], and God devised [against them, so that He saved Jesus, and made another man similar to Jesus in shape to be crucified instead of him]; the Best of devisers is God.)

This also is in the Quran 7: 99​

أَفَأَمِنُواْ مَكْرَ اللّهِ فَلاَ يَأْمَنُ مَكْرَ اللّهِ إِلاَّ الْقَوْمُ الْخَاسِرُونَ​

The explanation: (Do they feel secure against God's planning, [in stead of their planning against the believers]? None feels secure against God's planning but the people of the lost [because they do not believe in the coming of the punishment on them.] )

I do not say this concerning anyone here; but only to explain the idea.

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com​

 

[darkbeaver]

Because he was wrong about pretty much everything. If you really know anything about science, you can find errors of fact and misinterpretations on just about every page of his books. He didn't know the difference between hydrocarbons and carbohydrates, for instance, he thought a moon couldn't orbit a planet faster than the planet rotates, he invented "facts," arbitrarily changed other facts to suit his thesis, and presented no mathematics in support of his analysis of Venus' behaviour, which any scientist worthy of the title would have to do to have any credibility. His thinking was sloppy and selective and entirely qualitative, and he contributed nothing of any value to our understanding of science or history. To put the mantle of Galileo on him, as his followers keep trying to do, it isn't enough just to be persecuted by the establishment as he was. You also have to right. He wasn't.

I think we'll be informed guite soon about just how much conventionally accepted science is wrong, Velikovsky will be in good company soon enough, where I live being wrong is an accepted step on the way to discovery. He asked a lot of interesting questions made a lot of controversy, he did contribute.

 

[darkbeaver]

Don't take this to mean something concerning you in particular; but according to the word "smile":

God – be glorified – [He is the same Allah and Jehovah or Yahweh: the Creator] may not smile or laugh; but: ​

• He mocks: He mocks the hypocrites:

This is in the Quran 2: 15​

اللّهُ يَسْتَهْزِئُ بِهِمْ وَيَمُدُّهُمْ فِي طُغْيَانِهِمْ يَعْمَهُونَ​

The explanation: (God [Himself] does mock them, offering them [wealth] to let them wander on blindly with their arrogance.)
​

• He tricks the hypocrites; according to this Quranic revelation 4: 142

إِنَّ الْمُنَافِقِينَ يُخَادِعُونَ اللّهَ وَهُوَ خَادِعُهُمْ​

The explanation: (The hypocrites seek to trick God, but [in fact] He is tricking them.)
​

• He gradually causes their destruction from whence they are not aware, as in the Quran 7: 182

وَالَّذِينَ كَذَّبُواْ بِآيَاتِنَا سَنَسْتَدْرِجُهُم مِّنْ حَيْثُ لاَ يَعْلَمُونَ​

The explanation: (Those who cry lies to Our signs, We will gradually cause their destruction, from whence they are not aware.)
​

• He may devise (or design some plan) against His enemies; as when Quraish plotted against Prophet Mohammed, this is in the Quran 8: 30

وَإِذْ يَمْكُرُ بِكَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُواْ لِيُثْبِتُوكَ أَوْ يَقْتُلُوكَ أَوْ يُخْرِجُوكَ وَيَمْكُرُونَ وَيَمْكُرُ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ​

The explanation: (And [remember, O Mohammed, your Lord's grace on you] when the unbelievers [among Quraish tribesmen] devise against you, as for to capture you, or to kill you or to expel you [from Mecca to another town];
but they devised [against you], and God devised against them, when God is the Best of devisers [so He turned their devising against them instead of being against you.] )

The same situation was of Jesus Christ when they plotted against him so as to crucify him, but God saved him, and they crucified another man similar to him in shape; this is in the Quran 3: 54​

وَمَكَرُواْ وَمَكَرَ اللّهُ وَاللّهُ خَيْرُ الْمَاكِرِينَ​

The explanation: (Then, the [Jews] devised plottings [against Jesus, so as to kill him], and God devised [against them, so that He saved Jesus, and made another man similar to Jesus in shape to be crucified instead of him]; the Best of devisers is God.)

This also is in the Quran 7: 99​

أَفَأَمِنُواْ مَكْرَ اللّهِ فَلاَ يَأْمَنُ مَكْرَ اللّهِ إِلاَّ الْقَوْمُ الْخَاسِرُونَ​

The explanation: (Do they feel secure against God's planning, [in stead of their planning against the believers]? None feels secure against God's planning but the people of the lost [because they do not believe in the coming of the punishment on them.] )

I do not say this concerning anyone here; but only to explain the idea.

eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io
http://man-after-death.site.io
http://quranandhebrewbible.t35.com​

Mockery is a form of sarcasm.That requires a sence of humour. If god does not smile or laugh then how is it we are said to be made in his image? Is our love of laughter and smiles the work of satan? I think we will quickly become anthropocentrically confused if we insist on the works of men as the works of god. Here with the smile I think we see the work of man and not god. If god is so serious that he does not smile or laugh then why do we? Laughter is the best balm for a stinging heart.

 

[eanassir]

If we revise our first discussion about life on Mars, may be about one year ago, (when we said about the existence of intelligent life on Mars):

all of them refused the idea of any life on Mars;

they even denied the existence of water: some said it is merely frozen CO2.

Then they said: life is only possible in the form of bacteria.

Now the newest news is that: they have examined the wet soil of Mars; it could support crops, as do they say.
http://www.yahoo.com/s/907682


Refer to our past topic in this forum:
The Discovery of Intelligent Beings on the Planets Will Refute the Enthusiasm
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/spirituality-philosophy/67592-discovery-intelligent-beings-planets-will.html
And many of my discussions depending on the explanation of the Glorious Quran according to the late interpreter of the Quran and the Bible: Mohammed-Ali Hassan al-Hilly.
The journey to Mars is successful
http://universeandquran.site.io/#The_planets_Are_Inhabited_
An anticipated meeting between the inhabitants of Earth and the inhabitants of some other planets


eanassir
http://universeandquran.site.io​

 

[eanassir]

Mockery is a form of sarcasm.That requires a sence of humour. If god does not smile or laugh then how is it we are said to be made in his image? Is our love of laughter and smiles the work of satan? I think we will quickly become anthropocentrically confused if we insist on the works of men as the works of god. Here with the smile I think we see the work of man and not god. If god is so serious that he does not smile or laugh then why do we? Laughter is the best balm for a stinging heart.

I tell you the truth: I like the humor particularly with you, darkbeaver, and with some other members.:smile:
But bear in mind: nothing is made in His image. There isn't anything nor anyone like Him. This was some misunderstanding. I explained it in a past reply; in a following "edit" I shall explain this point.

 

[darkbeaver]

Yes that's the way it has happened EA.

 

[eanassir]

We may among ourselves make fun out of humor, and this will be nice and very good; but this is not proper for God – be glorified.

Some of the idolaters among the people of Mohammed denied him, and said: "God is only playing and making fun when he has sent you as an apostle".

Therefore this aya was revealed: which means if God intended to make fun, He would have sent them an angel who is a spiritual creature whom they could not perceive; but on the contrary He sent them an apostle out of themselves to speak to them in the same their language so that they might understand.

This is in the Quran 21: 16-18​

وَمَا خَلَقْنَا السَّمَاء وَالْأَرْضَ وَمَا بَيْنَهُمَا لَاعِبِينَ . لَوْ أَرَدْنَا أَن نَّتَّخِذَ لَهْوًا لَّاتَّخَذْنَاهُ مِن لَّدُنَّا إِن كُنَّا فَاعِلِينَ . بَلْ نَقْذِفُ بِالْحَقِّ عَلَى الْبَاطِلِ فَيَدْمَغُهُ فَإِذَا هُوَ زَاهِقٌ وَلَكُمُ الْوَيْلُ مِمَّا تَصِفُونَ​

The explanation:
(We created not the heavens and the earth and all that is between them, merely for making fun.

Had We willed to do amusement, We would have done it of [the angels in] Our [neighborhood], if We had done [so.]

But We do hurl the true against the false, and he [: the angel of death] will nock out [the chief of the disbelievers on] his brain, and soon he will perish; but woe be to you [associaters] for that you attribute [to Us: concerning the amusement and playing.] )
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