Mark Carney (Trudeau Liberal Replacement) as PM

[Ron in Regina]

Michael Ma’s floor crossing from the Conservatives to the Liberals was so shameless, it’s almost worthy of respect. There was no issue of conscience that Ma was wrestling with, no loud calls from his constituents that he must aid Prime Minister Mark Carney’s quest for a majority, no apparent fallout with Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre.

In fact, there doesn’t appear to be any reason at all, least of all a defensible one, for why the rookie MP, having just been elected less than eight months ago, needed to change parties. Ma, of course, tried to spin it all as a matter of principle, saying in a statement issued by the Liberals that his decision was made after “listening carefully to the people of Markham–Unionville in recent weeks.” (?)

Those would be the very same people who, again, just sent him to Ottawa as a Conservative in April.

While parliamentary convention permits floor crossing, the whole business is embarrassing for everyone involved, kind of like how there is no law against adultery. It is hard to overstate just how cynical this floor crossing is. The day before being welcomed with applause at the Liberal Christmas party, Ma danced at the Conservative Christmas party and was photographed with Poilievre and his wife, Anaida.

Carson Jerema: Holy cow, Michael Ma is shameless — National Post

The newly minted Liberal was dancing at the Conservative Christmas party the night before crossing the floor

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[Ron in Regina]

Moose…on the loose.

(YouTube & 5 Liberals & 1 NDP Deemed “Threat to Public Safety” — MPs DENIED Entry to Israel)

(This even though Canada’s ostensible conditions for Palestinian statehood, including that Hamas must disarm, haven’t been met. Nor had all Israeli hostages been released at that time, another of Canada’s conditions.)

 

[Ron in Regina]

Yeah…you usually don’t resign over allegations. After Quebec’s anti-corruption police announced a criminal investigation of the party last week, prominent Liberals began openly calling for Rodriguez to step aside…which means they knew, and didn’t say anything?

Quebec Liberal Leader Pablo Rodriguez resigns amid ongoing crisis | Globalnews.ca

Rodriguez's leadership campaign has been under scrutiny, with allegations people may have received cash rewards in exchange for votes and that donors had their money reimbursed.

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There is also a real threat to national unity if the Liberals do get a majority government by means other than the ballot box, but that’s probably neither here nor there, etc…

First off, there was no ideological split between Ma and Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre; there was no policy split. Secondly, the move by Ma pushes Carney closer to a majority, which would fundamentally change the outcome of the last election for the whole country — not just one riding. Now Allegations that China is once again interfering in Canada’s democracy? Meh…that’s yesterday’s news, right?

Maybe that’s why people have been out protesting Ma at his Markham constituency office with some calling him a traitor, others making links to the Chinese government and claims of interference by Beijing.

That’s not wild speculation; National Post spoke with Joe Tay who also ran for the Conservatives in the last election and has been the target of interference from Chinese officials. Tay was the candidate that Liberal MP Paul Chiang suggested people should arrest and handover to Chinese authorities in exchange for a bounty.

Chiang was dropped by the Liberals as their candidate in Markham-Unionville and Michael Ma won the riding for the Conservatives.

“When you connect all these dots together, people have these kinds of worries,” Tay told National Post this week, while pointing to meetings and associations that Ma has had with Chinese officials.

Others in the Chinese community, like Cheuk Kwan, a frequent critic of the Chinese government and co-chair of the Toronto Association for Democracy in China, don’t believe there is a connection between Beijing and Ma’s floor crossing.

“I think him being in these dinners and perhaps even meeting with the (Chinese vice) consulate general is par for the course,” Kwan told the Post? What?

The most likely explanation for Ma’s crossing is the simplest one: Liberal cabinet minister Tim Hodgson, a fellow rich guy and former business executive just like Ma, convinced Ma that he’d be happier with the Liberals and people like him. Regardless of the reason, the move leaves a bad taste in the mouths of many voters.

LILLEY: Carney playing with floor crossing is dangerous for national unity — Toronto Sun

This floor crossing feels different, the anger seems more intense, the disappointment in Canada’s political system feels like it is deepening. Now, with Mark Carney threatening to get a majority with more floor crossers, there are real questions about the health of our democracy. There is also a...

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[petros]

Que pasa pour favour? Liberali no est bueno?

Si. No est bueno.

 

[Dixie Cup]

Michael Ma’s floor crossing from the Conservatives to the Liberals was so shameless, it’s almost worthy of respect. There was no issue of conscience that Ma was wrestling with, no loud calls from his constituents that he must aid Prime Minister Mark Carney’s quest for a majority, no apparent fallout with Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre.

In fact, there doesn’t appear to be any reason at all, least of all a defensible one, for why the rookie MP, having just been elected less than eight months ago, needed to change parties. Ma, of course, tried to spin it all as a matter of principle, saying in a statement issued by the Liberals that his decision was made after “listening carefully to the people of Markham–Unionville in recent weeks.” (?)

Those would be the very same people who, again, just sent him to Ottawa as a Conservative in April.

While parliamentary convention permits floor crossing, the whole business is embarrassing for everyone involved, kind of like how there is no law against adultery. It is hard to overstate just how cynical this floor crossing is. The day before being welcomed with applause at the Liberal Christmas party, Ma danced at the Conservative Christmas party and was photographed with Poilievre and his wife, Anaida.

Carson Jerema: Holy cow, Michael Ma is shameless — National Post

The newly minted Liberal was dancing at the Conservative Christmas party the night before crossing the floor

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I think he was threatened by the CCP. I think all of our Chinese parliamentarians are under threat if they still have family in China. His excuses don't hold water & he needs to resign (as does the other person) and by-elections called.

Further, laws need to be introduced to disallow this very thing from happening in the future. It's been a long time coming & it's about time something was done about it. I don't care what party, by-elections need to be called.

 

[Dixie Cup]

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Yeah…you usually don’t resign over allegations. After Quebec’s anti-corruption police announced a criminal investigation of the party last week, prominent Liberals began openly calling for Rodriguez to step aside…which means they knew, and didn’t say anything?

Quebec Liberal Leader Pablo Rodriguez resigns amid ongoing crisis | Globalnews.ca

Rodriguez's leadership campaign has been under scrutiny, with allegations people may have received cash rewards in exchange for votes and that donors had their money reimbursed.

globalnews.ca

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There is also a real threat to national unity if the Liberals do get a majority government by means other than the ballot box, but that’s probably neither here nor there, etc…

First off, there was no ideological split between Ma and Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre; there was no policy split. Secondly, the move by Ma pushes Carney closer to a majority, which would fundamentally change the outcome of the last election for the whole country — not just one riding. Now Allegations that China is once again interfering in Canada’s democracy? Meh…that’s yesterday’s news, right?

Maybe that’s why people have been out protesting Ma at his Markham constituency office with some calling him a traitor, others making links to the Chinese government and claims of interference by Beijing.

That’s not wild speculation; National Post spoke with Joe Tay who also ran for the Conservatives in the last election and has been the target of interference from Chinese officials. Tay was the candidate that Liberal MP Paul Chiang suggested people should arrest and handover to Chinese authorities in exchange for a bounty.

Chiang was dropped by the Liberals as their candidate in Markham-Unionville and Michael Ma won the riding for the Conservatives.

“When you connect all these dots together, people have these kinds of worries,” Tay told National Post this week, while pointing to meetings and associations that Ma has had with Chinese officials.

Others in the Chinese community, like Cheuk Kwan, a frequent critic of the Chinese government and co-chair of the Toronto Association for Democracy in China, don’t believe there is a connection between Beijing and Ma’s floor crossing.

“I think him being in these dinners and perhaps even meeting with the (Chinese vice) consulate general is par for the course,” Kwan told the Post? What?

The most likely explanation for Ma’s crossing is the simplest one: Liberal cabinet minister Tim Hodgson, a fellow rich guy and former business executive just like Ma, convinced Ma that he’d be happier with the Liberals and people like him. Regardless of the reason, the move leaves a bad taste in the mouths of many voters.

LILLEY: Carney playing with floor crossing is dangerous for national unity — Toronto Sun

This floor crossing feels different, the anger seems more intense, the disappointment in Canada’s political system feels like it is deepening. Now, with Mark Carney threatening to get a majority with more floor crossers, there are real questions about the health of our democracy. There is also a...

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Especially HIS voters.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Carney’s speech must not be lauded as a victory in and of itself. Now he must do something much more difficult: deliver concrete, practical details on how Canada’s ruling political class will summon the necessary resolve, resources, and urgency to break through a decade of inertia and complacency, smash through taboos, and build a nation that is truly strong, self-reliant, and independent.
Mark Carney cannot simply return to Parliament and expect, as he has for the past year, that re-announcing projects or creating new bureaucracies will suffice to fix Canada’s woefully inadequate military, underdeveloped natural resources, and entrenched internal trade barriers. Small ball and tinkering is not going to cut it.

Michelle Rempel Garner: Nice speech Carney, but what are you going to do about it? — National Post

Words mean little if they are not followed up with action

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[pgs]

Carney’s speech must not be lauded as a victory in and of itself. Now he must do something much more difficult: deliver concrete, practical details on how Canada’s ruling political class will summon the necessary resolve, resources, and urgency to break through a decade of inertia and complacency, smash through taboos, and build a nation that is truly strong, self-reliant, and independent.
View attachment 32858Mark Carney cannot simply return to Parliament and expect, as he has for the past year, that re-announcing projects or creating new bureaucracies will suffice to fix Canada’s woefully inadequate military, underdeveloped natural resources, and entrenched internal trade barriers. Small ball and tinkering is not going to cut it.

Michelle Rempel Garner: Nice speech Carney, but what are you going to do about it? — National Post

Words mean little if they are not followed up with action

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Yup Carney is flying around the world getting trade deals . About seventy five percent of our trade is with the United States , next biggest partner is China at around four percent . This is after over fifty years of diversifying. All the hot air and convoluted speeches cannot change the fact that the world’s largest economy borders our country .

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Yup Carney is flying around the world getting trade deals . About seventy five percent of our trade is with the United States , next biggest partner is China at around four percent . This is after over fifty years of diversifying. All the hot air and convoluted speeches cannot change the fact that the world’s largest economy borders our country .

True. The North Pole's toys-and-goodies industry is an economic powerhouse!

 

[bob the dog]

Yup Carney is flying around the world getting trade deals . About seventy five percent of our trade is with the United States , next biggest partner is China at around four percent . This is after over fifty years of diversifying. All the hot air and convoluted speeches cannot change the fact that the world’s largest economy borders our country .

Canada has foreign embassies in 171 countries

 

[pgs]

Canada has foreign embassies in 171 countries

And ? 171 countries account for 25% of our foreign trade

 

[Dixie Cup]

Carney’s speech must not be lauded as a victory in and of itself. Now he must do something much more difficult: deliver concrete, practical details on how Canada’s ruling political class will summon the necessary resolve, resources, and urgency to break through a decade of inertia and complacency, smash through taboos, and build a nation that is truly strong, self-reliant, and independent.
View attachment 32858Mark Carney cannot simply return to Parliament and expect, as he has for the past year, that re-announcing projects or creating new bureaucracies will suffice to fix Canada’s woefully inadequate military, underdeveloped natural resources, and entrenched internal trade barriers. Small ball and tinkering is not going to cut it.

Michelle Rempel Garner: Nice speech Carney, but what are you going to do about it? — National Post

Words mean little if they are not followed up with action

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He has no idea of how to run a government first off & secondly, he has no vested interest in Canada so basically doesn't care what happens to us, as long as he & his minion's benefit. Apathy in Canada will not be beneficial as we'll soon find out if we don't do something soon.

 

[Ron in Regina]

It was a good speech. Now we need the follow through.

 

[bob the dog]

And ? 171 countries account for 25% of our foreign trade

When it comes to money, 99% of funds held by regular Canadians are funneled through New York. RBC Direct Investing will not initiate a foreign transaction ignoring the fact the U.S. is a foreign country. That is a simple oversight though as Canadian banks are controlled by American interests.

No idea at all what they do in the other 170 countries Canada has embassies in. Remember the Commonwealth? If I can find a way to buy shares on the London Stock Exchange it will cost me $250 per trade which still could be a better option than dealing with the heavilly rigged Toronto Stock Exchange.

Hard to be a little guy