Majority of Canadians support carbon pricing

[taxslave]

The denial is just sad now.

How are people this desperate to avoid the truth?

You been doing it for years. Besides you poll results tend to indicate questions designed to get the desired results. Just because a slim majority of those polled think the earth might be getting warmer despite all evidence to the contrary does not mean they believe in AGW.
Another epic fail.

 

[Nick Danger]

This just in, a majority of Canadians as smart as a two by four.

So what? They still get a vote.

 

[bobnoorduyn]

So what? They still get a vote.

Churchill once said, "The best argument against democracy was a five minute talk with the average voter". Another quote I like is probably from an old Chinese proverb, but used in varying verbiage by Lenin, Stalin, Hitler, (and was used by Goebbels, but still was Hitler's), I like the Russian version best because it almost sounds like poetry, in Russian anyway; Ложь, сказанная сто раз, становится правдой, literally translated is; a lie, repeated 100 times becomes truth.


We already have carbon taxes, so what's another one, right? This is simply another way to relieve us from our hard earned dollars to enrich someone else. There is no conclusive evidence that anthropogenic global warming exists other than from those who propagate this orthodoxy, and anyone who questions it is considered a heretic.


History repeats itself showing that the people follow the loudest and most convincing, if not forceful voices, to follow their ideology. Black slaves are property, Jews are the root problems of society, Christians are evil, Muslims are evil, Catholics are evil, Protestants are evil, the inquisition, the crusades, et cetera. This sort of rallying has gone on for millennia to recruit troops to fight for a cause, and millions of lives have been lost doing so for a selected few to gain power and control. Stalin, Lenin, Mao, Pol Pot, Hitler, et al had no trouble with this. Enlightenment has made their sort of despotism fall out of favour. A new enemy had to be created.


Those select few have now made us our own worst enemies, and we are willing to sacrifice ourselves for an ideology bent on annihilating, well, us, but certainly not them. Despots love their "useful idiots", and they walk among us.

 

[Angstrom]

So what? They still get a vote.

This just in, Wind power and solar power contributing for need of higher level of carbon production by gas plants to compensate due to off peak production slumps. Result, higher carbon production then in the past.

Confirmation, most Canadian as smart as a two by four.

 

[tay]

So far, the deployments of hydro, solar and wind energy in Canada have been made in the highest-yielding locations. It is natural for the low-hanging fruit to be picked first. What is next? Now that Justin Trudeau’s government will ensure a uniform national carbon price, the question is, will it be just about tightening our belts or will it hasten a bountiful supply of renewable energy? This depends on an old puzzle in economics: Future renewable-power installations could either get cheaper, because we have learned from earlier practice and technology development, or they could get more expensive, since the best spots for steady wind, reliable solar and proximity to existing power distribution and population centres are already taken.

To answer this, a student and I mapped each province’s remaining “low-hanging fruit” of renewables in the form of wind, solar, wave, tidal and some biomass energy. We compared this with total energy use, including electricity, transportation, heating and industrial production.

The bottom line: There is plenty of renewable-energy potential near current roads, power lines and population centres. Most of it is wind power, with plenty of hydro and solar as well. In fact, every province except Alberta and Ontario has a large surfeit – enough to be choosy about siting installations to minimize environmental side-effects.

Indeed, the boom and associated savings should be big enough to amply help workers and communities in transition.

For instance, were Newfoundland to develop the easily accessible part of its truly enormous wind resources and to export the power, it would generate an annual income of $200,000 a household.

While carbon pricing helps push this kind of investment, the market costs of building and of running wind and solar power are dropping, on their own, faster than policy is moving. That makes a shift to renewable power inevitable. By 2022, it will simply be cheaper to build and provide a gigawatt of wind power than the cheapest fossil-fuel alternative, and solar will be just behind. Because wind and solar are technologies, not fuels, their costs will continue to drop as time goes on.

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Canada well on its way to a renewable-energy future - The Globe and Mail

 

[Curious Cdn]

This just in, a majority of Canadians as smart as a two by four.

... sez a two by twelve ...

 

[mentalfloss]

So far, the deployments of hydro, solar and wind energy in Canada have been made in the highest-yielding locations. It is natural for the low-hanging fruit to be picked first. What is next? Now that Justin Trudeau’s government will ensure a uniform national carbon price, the question is, will it be just about tightening our belts or will it hasten a bountiful supply of renewable energy? This depends on an old puzzle in economics: Future renewable-power installations could either get cheaper, because we have learned from earlier practice and technology development, or they could get more expensive, since the best spots for steady wind, reliable solar and proximity to existing power distribution and population centres are already taken.

To answer this, a student and I mapped each province’s remaining “low-hanging fruit” of renewables in the form of wind, solar, wave, tidal and some biomass energy. We compared this with total energy use, including electricity, transportation, heating and industrial production.

The bottom line: There is plenty of renewable-energy potential near current roads, power lines and population centres. Most of it is wind power, with plenty of hydro and solar as well. In fact, every province except Alberta and Ontario has a large surfeit – enough to be choosy about siting installations to minimize environmental side-effects.

Indeed, the boom and associated savings should be big enough to amply help workers and communities in transition.

For instance, were Newfoundland to develop the easily accessible part of its truly enormous wind resources and to export the power, it would generate an annual income of $200,000 a household.

While carbon pricing helps push this kind of investment, the market costs of building and of running wind and solar power are dropping, on their own, faster than policy is moving. That makes a shift to renewable power inevitable. By 2022, it will simply be cheaper to build and provide a gigawatt of wind power than the cheapest fossil-fuel alternative, and solar will be just behind. Because wind and solar are technologies, not fuels, their costs will continue to drop as time goes on.

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Canada well on its way to a renewable-energy future - The Globe and Mail

And the US will be stuck with fossil fuels.

 

[pgs]

... sez a two by twelve ...

A 2 by 12 is three times as big and worth 3 times more than a 2 by 4 . Nice put down .

 

[Curious Cdn]

A 2 by 12 is three times as big and worth 3 times more than a 2 by 4 . Nice put down .

... yes, but as you have probably experienced yourself, he is a much thicker plank.