Looks like Wynnetario Will Privatize the LCBO

tay

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I believe that the Ontario Liberal government, should it win re-election in 2018. is planning to privatize the LCBO, surely one of our crown jewels, given the huge profits that go into the provincial treasure each year. Indeed, in fiscal 2013-2014, it made a record profit of $1.74 billion, more than our formerly wholly-publicly-owned Hydro One.

What is my evidence, other than the rising prices that would make the LCBO's sale even more attractive to private investors?


Consider the pattern:

Before privatizing Hydro One, the government engaged in a series of price increases for electricity, culminating in the current peak rate (weekdays 11 a.m.-5 p.m.) of 18 cents per kilowatt hour. One of the
reasons cited (link is external) is that Ontarians' conservation efforts reduced Hydro One's revenues. Left unsaid is the fact that lower profits would have also resulted in a lower IPO when the first 15% of Hydro One was sold off.

But wait. There's more.

Premier Kathleen Wynne has made a big play to offer a wider distribution of beer, which will ultimately be available, but only in six-packs, in 400 grocery stores. Prior to that, she had expressed public outrage over the virtual monopoly enjoyed by the privately-owned Beer Store , whose proprietors are multinationals: Molson-Coors, Labatt (owned by Anheuser-Busch InBev) and Sleeman (owned by Japan’s Sapporo). At the time, she suggested a licensing fee would be imposed on that monopoly. Needless to say, that never happened, but the fact that beer is now allowed, albeit in limited distribution and quantity in grocery stores, suggests an effort to change the public perception about the virtues of privatization.

Next, there is the recently-announced LCBO delivery service. Finance Minister Charles Sousa said,
the creation of LCBO.com shows the government-owned liquor agency's commitment to evolve and modernize, and will provide greater convenience for consumers.

"The virtual shelf space now available to small wineries and breweries is fantastic," said Sousa.

The online sales site will be a huge boost to Ontario wineries, breweries and cider producers, predicted LCBO president and CEO George Soleas.As well as a boost to their already fat bottom line, no doubt, thereby enhancing its attractiveness to future private investors.

Consider as well the recent hiring of Bonnie Brooks as the
LCBO's new Chair. (link is external) Known as a turnaround-queen, she joined Hudson Bay in 2008, becoming

its first female president and CEO. Brooks is known for engineering a turnaround for the retailer, dropping its moribund apparel brands and bringing in mid-to-high end fashion products.

Brooks was set to retire from her role as vice-chairman before agreeing to take on LCBO role. She said this new opportunity would allow her to help “build on the great work that has already been done, and to take this exciting retail powerhouse to the next level,” with its expansion online and its new role as wholesaler to grocers.


Cynics like me would suggest that she has really been hired to complete the transformation of the LCBO prior to the start of privatization.

Expect no mention of these plans before the next election. Just as the privatization of the very profitable Hydro One came out of the blue, a cowardly and costly way to avoid tax increases while bringing in her balanced budget in time for the next election, my prediction is that Kathleen Wynne will once more betray the people of Ontario should she win another majority mandate

It is a sad thing when a citizen comes to look upon his government with suspicion and loathing. Yet it is an odium that the premier and her tired regime have justly earned.
 

Machjo

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And rightfully so. For the government to be involved in the alcohol, gambling (think lottery tickets), and other such industries creates a conflict of interest. The tobacco industry and marijuana industries are other examples of industries the government must absolutely not engage in and when it has, to distance itself from them.

That said, I'm against the sake of alcohol at grocery stores. Keep it in separate shops.
 

Machjo

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The government has always been in the alcohol business and will continue to be. Soon they will be in the pot business.

Ah, put it in the portfolio of the Minister of Health. I bet most wouldn't even notice the irony.

I've always been in favour of deregulating the gambling industry. Where else are we to get the funding to help addicts? Same with alcohol. Lower the age to fifteen and allow Street vendors to sell it. It"ll bring in needed revenue to fund AA. How's that for civil-servant logic?
 

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If we look back to the first half of the 20th century in North America, when things were less regulated, organized crime ran gambling and alcohol. There was a lot of money made. The government noticed, moved in and took over their action.

The 21st century brought a new kind of marketing and profit strategy for governments at all levels. Control everything and make money like the mob did, but reduce the overhead.

Remember when you went to government buildings, filled with government employees, to obtain or renew a driver's license or get a hunting license? There was no such thing as a license to own firearms. Security guards did not need a government issued card to earn minimum wage.

Presently, the government makes the rules, and takes a cut of all the above, but almost all of this is outsourced to contractors.

The LCBO is going the same way. Sell it off to get back some of the money Wynne and Mcguinty squandered, but outsource, maintain control and channel revenue. Operating expenses are paid by others. They are following the business model of using someone else's money to make their own.

I cannot fathom having Wynne around for another term. I said that after Mcguinty's first term though, and look what happened. The politicans burn the midnight oil in southern Ontario to stay in power. I'm genuinely surprised no one ever tried to take a shot at one of them, or run them over. The would be assassins probably couldn't afford the gas or the bullets. :)
 

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If we look back to the first half of the 20th century in North America, when things were less regulated, organized crime ran gambling and alcohol. There was a lot of money made. The government noticed, moved in and took over their action.

The 21st century brought a new kind of marketing and profit strategy for governments at all levels. Control everything and make money like the mob did, but reduce the overhead.

Remember when you went to government buildings, filled with government employees, to obtain or renew a driver's license or get a hunting license? There was no such thing as a license to own firearms. Security guards did not need a government issued card to earn minimum wage.

Presently, the government makes the rules, and takes a cut of all the above, but almost all of this is outsourced to contractors.

The LCBO is going the same way. Sell it off to get back some of the money Wynne and Mcguinty squandered, but outsource, maintain control and channel revenue. Operating expenses are paid by others. They are following the business model of using someone else's money to make their own.

I cannot fathom having Wynne around for another term. I said that after Mcguinty's first term though, and look what happened. The politicans burn the midnight oil in southern Ontario to stay in power. I'm genuinely surprised no one ever tried to take a shot at one of them, or run them over. The would be assassins probably couldn't afford the gas or the bullets. :)

The conservatives would do fine in Ontario if they promised to stay away from labour laws ;)
 

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Why should I sell your grain?


Now, what does this remind you of?
"We didn't realize the LCBO considered this a licensee sale," Korberg explained in an interview with CTVNews.ca. That means the LCBO charges the vineyard as if it has sold the bottle to the LCBO for distribution, then charges them to buy it back. "This is a bottle of wine that has never left the property. The wine in the bottle is made 100 per cent by the grapes grown by our own property, by us, and I have to give half the cost of that bottle to the LCBO in order to sell that wine by the glass on my own property," he said.​
By lance on August 7, 2016 3:30 PM | 16 Comments
 

petros

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Why should I sell your grain?


Now, what does this remind you of?
"We didn't realize the LCBO considered this a licensee sale," Korberg explained in an interview with CTVNews.ca. That means the LCBO charges the vineyard as if it has sold the bottle to the LCBO for distribution, then charges them to buy it back. "This is a bottle of wine that has never left the property. The wine in the bottle is made 100 per cent by the grapes grown by our own property, by us, and I have to give half the cost of that bottle to the LCBO in order to sell that wine by the glass on my own property," he said.​
By lance on August 7, 2016 3:30 PM | 16 Comments
It's hard to find a Province that doesn't do the same.