Living Christ

[gerryh]

The biblical encounter is designed by God to transform.

The Word is Spirit-infused. The faith-filled person is fundamentally changed through hearing or reading the spoken or written word and through observing and emulating the Living Word. Thoughts, desires, words and deeds are rejuvenated. The outcome for the biblical listener/reader/observer/imitator is progressing Christ-likeness:

"Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here!" (2 Corinthians 5:17 NIV)

So, yes, Christian conduct is important to Christ/Christianity because it validates both.

I'll ask again, if all of the Bible is God's word, not man's, then explain Leviticus and tell me if you follow it. It is very explicit as to what you need to do for offerings and what can and can not be eaten. It is very explicit as to what you, as a woman, must do in birth and during menstruation. Do you follow these "laws"?

 

[MHz]

This is a good example of why I avoid using single verse to explain something the Bible covers. Luke is similar but it is not the only part of the Gospel that covers that trait and it helps to define the 'enemy' as being any stranger you meet, for the first time. If he is a sinner such as in 1Cor:5 then you are supposed to 'depart'.

M't:5:38-48:
Ye have heard that it hath been said,
An eye for an eye,
and a tooth for a tooth:
But I say unto you,
That ye resist not evil:
but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek,
turn to him the other also.
And if any man will sue thee at the law,
and take away thy coat,
let him have thy cloke also.
And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile,
go with him twain.
Give to him that asketh thee,
and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away.
Ye have heard that it hath been said,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour,
and hate thine enemy.
But I say unto you,
Love your enemies,
bless them that curse you,
do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you,
and persecute you;
That ye may be the children of your Father which is in heaven:
for he maketh his sun to rise on the evil and on the good,
and sendeth rain on the just and on the unjust.
For if ye love them which love you,
what reward have ye?
do not even the publicans the same?
And if ye salute your brethren only,
what do ye more than others?
do not even the publicans so?
Be ye therefore perfect,
even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

1Co:5:9-11:
I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world,
or with the covetous,
or extortioners,
or with idolaters;
for then must ye needs go out of the world.
But now I have written unto you not to keep company,
if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator,
or covetous,
or an idolater,
or a railer,
or a drunkard,
or an extortioner;
with such an one no not to eat.

If you are counting on grace to cover all sins then the odds are it will cover none of yours or anybody that thinks like that. Grace is a free gift from God. When a person thinks he can sin and grace will cover it then it become a work and not a gift. Grace covers sins that believers forget to repent.

Ro:11:6:
And if by grace,
then is it no more of works:
otherwise grace is no more grace.
But if it be of works,
then is it no more grace:
otherwise work is no more work.

M't:5:28:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

 

[darkbeaver]

Adultery is of the groin not of the heart. The groin often overrules the heart, the stomach often overrules the brain, the eyes leads us to sin and the feet comply.

 

[MHz]

I'll ask again, if all of the Bible is God's word, not man's, then explain Leviticus and tell me if you follow it.

How many Jews have been stoned to death for breaking the OT morality and diet Laws in this century? Christians are under the Royal Law.

Jas:2:8-11:
If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture,
Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
But if ye have respect to persons,
ye commit sin,
and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point,
he is guilty of all.
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.

It is very explicit as to what you need to do for offerings and what can and can not be eaten.

When did a Jew ever substitute fine flour in place of the 'blood sacrifice'? What areas are covered if you are such an expert of the Jewish version of the OT?

Ac:10:9-16:
On the morrow,
as they went on their journey,
and drew nigh unto the city,
Peter went up upon the housetop to pray about the sixth hour:
And he became very hungry,
and would have eaten:
but while they made ready,
he fell into a trance,
And saw heaven opened,
and a certain vessel descending unto him,
as it had been a great sheet knit at the four corners,
and let down to the earth:
Wherein were all manner of fourfooted beasts of the earth,
and wild beasts,
and creeping things,
and fowls of the air.
And there came a voice to him,
Rise,
Peter;
kill,
and eat.
But Peter said,
Not so,
Lord;
for I have never eaten any thing that is common or unclean.
And the voice spake unto him again the second time,
What God hath cleansed, that call not thou common.
This was done thrice:
and the vessel was received up again into heaven.

It is very explicit as to what you, as a woman, must do in birth and during menstruation. Do you follow these "laws"?

You tell you wife she is unclean 25% of her adult life. The day you do is the day this place will be rid of you for good.

Col:2:16:
Let no man therefore judge you in meat,
or in drink,
or in respect of an holyday,
or of the new moon,
or of the sabbath days:

 

[gopher]

Jesus does not leave room for the word to be degraded or to fail, MHz:

"Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away." (Mark 13:31 NIV)

"For no word from God will ever fail." (Luke 1:37 NIV)

It is also written, ask and ye shall receive

Well, I've asked for a wealthy wife for a LONG time - damn it, it's time for this god to bring one into my ████████ life!

 

[Motar]

What is Christian conduct? "Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you." (Luke 6:27 NIV) Christian conduct returns blessing for cursing.

So, how does a Christian return blessing for cursing?

 

[gerryh]

So, how does a Christian return blessing for cursing?

What I want to know is why you are ignoring my questions? MHz added in another doozy in another thread where he describes how "God" would condone men molesting young girls. How can this type of behaviour be even considered being "inspired" by God?

 

[Motar]

What I want to know is why you are ignoring my questions? MHz added in another doozy in another thread where he describes how "God" would condone men molesting young girls. How can this type of behaviour be even considered being "inspired" by God?

You will have to ask MHz why he posts as he does.

You could start another thread concerning the subject of Leviticus 18, Gerry.

 

[gerryh]

You will have to ask MHz why he posts as he does.

You could start another thread concerning the subject of Leviticus 18, Gerry.

This all goes to you, and MHz, saying that the entire Bible is God's inspired word. You both make this statement but refuse to explain how this can be. How is it God can be "saying" it is ok for an Adult to insert his finger into a step daughters ****** to "break" her hymen so she can marry a boy she wants if said step father doesn't want to marry her himself? Does Leviticus not condemn Father/step daughter marriages? Is this "practice" not an example of pedophilia? Molestation?

 

[Motar]

This all goes to you, and MHz, saying that the entire Bible is God's inspired word. You both make this statement but refuse to explain how this can be. How is it God can be "saying" it is ok for an Adult to insert his finger into a step daughters ****** to "break" her hymen so she can marry a boy she wants if said step father doesn't want to marry her himself? Does Leviticus not condemn Father/step daughter marriages? Is this "practice" not an example of pedophilia? Molestation?

Why not start a thread concerning this subject, Gerry?

 

[gerryh]

Why not start a thread concerning this subject, Gerry?

Ya, that's what I figured.

 

[MHz]

Ya, that's what I figured.

Then do it tard.

 

[gerryh]

Then do it tard.

how about you just backup your justification and support of men molesting young girls. Back up your support of men marrying multiple women and having concubines.

 

[MHz]

This all goes to you, and MHz, saying that the entire Bible is God's inspired word. You both make this statement but refuse to explain how this can be. How is it God can be "saying" it is ok for an Adult to insert his finger into a step daughters ****** to "break" her hymen so she can marry a boy she wants if said step father doesn't want to marry her himself? Does Leviticus not condemn Father/step daughter marriages? Is this "practice" not an example of pedophilia? Molestation?

It's called humbling and it means she cannot be sold into a marriage, when she marries it is because she loves the man. I even gave you the start of the passage but you are too much of a fuktard to even go and read it. The Bible would probably burst into flame anyway so here is the whole thing. If you want to slam the practice take it up with a Rabbi or God.

De:21:11-13:
And seest among the captives a beautiful woman,
and hast a desire unto her,
that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house;
and she shall shave her head,
and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her,
and shall remain in thine house,
and bewail her father and her mother a full month:
and after that thou shalt go in unto her,
and be her husband,
and she shall be thy wife.
And it shall be,
if thou have no delight in her,
then thou shalt let her go whither she will;
but thou shalt not sell her at all for money,
thou shalt not make merchandise of her,
because thou hast humbled her.

 

[JLM]

Motar and MHz should listen to Gerry.............................there are rare occasions when he makes sense.

 

[gerryh]

It's called humbling and it means she cannot be sold into a marriage, when she marries it is because she loves the man. I even gave you the start of the passage but you are too much of a fuktard to even go and read it. The Bible would probably burst into flame anyway so here is the whole thing. If you want to slam the practice take it up with a Rabbi or God.

De:21:11-13:
And seest among the captives a beautiful woman,
and hast a desire unto her,
that thou wouldest have her to thy wife;
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house;
and she shall shave her head,
and pare her nails;
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her,
and shall remain in thine house,
and bewail her father and her mother a full month:
and after that thou shalt go in unto her,
and be her husband,
and she shall be thy wife.
And it shall be,
if thou have no delight in her,
then thou shalt let her go whither she will;
but thou shalt not sell her at all for money,
thou shalt not make merchandise of her,
because thou hast humbled her.

This is bad enough, but not as bad as the molestation you stated in the other thread. Support a Father fingering his step daughter.

 

[MHz]

how about you just backup your justification and support of men molesting young girls. Back up your support of men marrying multiple women and having concubines.

It's all in the OT gerr, you should know that as you are championing that the Laws God put in place so Christ had something to be convicted of that would cause Him to suffer the cross. The 10 Commandments are still Law so they couldn't be broken.

Seriously, is there even one single verse in the whole book that God hasn't made it impossible for you to understand?

1Co:11:34:
And if any man hunger,
let him eat at home;
that ye come not together unto condemnation.
And the rest will I set in order when I come.

2Th:2:10-12:
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;
because they received not the love of the truth,
that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

This is bad enough, but not as bad as the molestation you stated in the other thread. Support a Father fingering his step daughter.

I even gave you the reference and all the relevent words. All you did was show how much of a bigoted prick you are. Go fuk yourself.

Motar and MHz should listen to Gerry.............................there are rare occasions when he makes sense.

You got any actual examples because he just altered his view on the one you are bragging him up on.

 

[JLM]

It's all in the OT gerr, .

And THAT is what pretty much makes it Bullsh*t!

 

[MHz]

Gerr was championing the 600+ laws, I admitted they bit the dust on the day of the cross so take it to him rather than trying to smear the OT part of the Bible, better yet take it up with the Jews.

 

[gerryh]

It's all in the OT gerr, you should know that as you are championing that the Laws God put in place so Christ had something to be convicted of that would cause Him to suffer the cross. The 10 Commandments are still Law so they couldn't be broken.

Seriously, is there even one single verse in the whole book that God hasn't made it impossible for you to understand?


2Th:2:10-12:
And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;
because they received not the love of the truth,
that they might be saved.
And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,
that they should believe a lie:
That they all might be damned who believed not the truth,
but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

This pretty much sums you up.

I even gave you the reference and all the relevent words. All you did was show how much of a bigoted prick you are. Go fuk yourself.


You got any actual examples because he just altered his view on the one you are bragging him up on.

I want you to say unequivocally that you support the molestation of young girls as described in the Bible's OT. Be a "man" MHZ and admit to what you believe.