List of jobs lost since the Bamster's re-election

CDNBear

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Lol! You keep playing the BROKEN RECORD card but it's getting you nowhere, kiddo.
There you have it folks, dishonesty it is.

Yet another lie from gopher.

It's a shame you're so dishonest gopher, why are you like that?
 

gopher

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Still waiting for your imaginary and delusional "proof" that anything I wrote is dishonest.

Heading off to brunch for now. When I come back later on I expect you to post your incontrovertible "evidence" so that the entire known universe will be convinced of your crazed ideas.

Meantime, don't say something that will get you banned again.



 

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lmao.


IF they do drop in for a Big Mac... they are getting a Big Mac and paying little attention to the people behind the counter.


I'll tell you a true story that happened in the past 6 months. My sister worked in a furniture store (Bombay) in Calgary when the owner of a jewelry store came in and she happened to deal with him. He was so impressed with her professional way of dealing with him, he offered her a job. She is now happily working for the jeweler. The woman who owned the furniture store treated her (and all the other employees) like sh*t.
 

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Still waiting for your imaginary and delusional "proof" that anything I wrote is dishonest.
More of your dishonesty?

Are you even capable of posting something honest?

Next we'll be seeing you claim some silly victory, complete with pics and gifs.. oh wait.
 

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With all due respects to the Bear and the Gopher, I think the gist of the thread was about jobs lost because Obama won the election. Walter has given a couple of examples. Are there examples of jobs being gained for the same reason?
 

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With Free Trade and Monetarism (Free Trade in Currency and Credit)... Which BOTH parties support in the U.S... the entire U.S. Economy is heading for the Detroit model.. a post apocalytic, depopulated landscape that is the inevitable result of de-industrialization. You might get some ups and downs.. but they are like a bouncing ball on a descending staircase.. rebounding but never achieving the previous height.. and always setting a new low.
 

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With Free Trade and Monetarism (Free Trade in Currency and Credit)... Which BOTH parties support in the U.S... the entire U.S. Economy is heading for the Detroit model.. a post apocalytic, depopulated landscape that is the inevitable result of de-industrialization. You might get some ups and downs.. but they are like a bouncing ball on a descending staircase.. rebounding but never achieving the previous height.. and always setting a new low.
We see the same thing here in Ontario. But that hasn't stopped the ideologues from claiming victory for their master.
 

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With all due respects to the Bear and the Gopher, I think the gist of the thread was about jobs lost because Obama won the election. Walter has given a couple of examples. Are there examples of jobs being gained for the same reason?




Contrary what certain delusional schizophrenic paranoids of the far right may want to believe, Obama'a agenda has recovered all the jobs lost under the Great Recession:


Report: U.S. economy has regained jobs lost in Great Recession



Note that this is from April with several hundred thousands jobs added since then. Obama's reelection has proven to be a victory for America. Too bad Harper has not enjoyed the same success. ;)
 

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That's what the Labour Market Indicator does. It accounts for the eight labour variables, not just the unemployment rate.

We and Obama are discussing the Unemployment Rate, not the Labor Market Indicator.



A minimum wage job is better than no job. I have a career, but you can bet your @ss that if I lost it, I would be taking whatever work I could find.

That's irrelevant to a person with low skills and a poor education who has worked in food service for the last 15 years.

correction:


September Jobs Report: US Economy Adding More Full-Time Than Part-Time Jobs


September Jobs Report: US Economy Adding More Full-Time Than Part-Time Jobs



the clearest sign of a reinvigorated economy came buried in the Labor Department's monthly jobs report released Friday: The number of people who said they were working part-time for lack of full-time positions continued to decline in September -- from 7.27 million to 7.1 million -- while full-time jobs increased by 273,000.

I've warned you before not to communicate with me. You're the only person on CC who can't talk to me without getting a red. In fact you are the only person to whom I give reds. Since you've ignored my warning let's get it on.
 

Tonington

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We and Obama are discussing the Unemployment Rate, not the Labor Market Indicator.

The unemployment rate is meaningless without putting it in the context of the labor force participation rate. The unemployment rate looks better as more people give up looking for work and drop out of the labor force. That's the reason the unemployment rate dropped. Most of the jobs created are minimum wage jobs, not career jobs.
My emphasis.

As I said, the labour market indicator accounts for other variables besides the unemployment rate. It includes the participation rate...

There's more than one reason the rate has dropped. One of the reasons unemployment has dropped is that fewer people are out of work. In order to keep pace with population growth, the US economy would need to add anywhere from 80,000 to 150,000 jobs each month, depending on which economists you ask. There's been at least 8 months in a row of new jobs in excess of even the highest estimate needed to keep the rate unchanged.

As I said, the labour market indicator includes the participation rate, so in the chart you can see the difference between the two time series. Obviously the one that doesn't include the participation rate has a lower rate of unemployment. Either way, both are still better than what we're doing up here in Canada, where people generally say the government is being a good economic steward.