Liberals have early momentum in Monday byelections
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Right.
Coming from the guy who automatically discounts anything that's posted on a blog, you post a blog.
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Coming from the guy who automatically discounts anything that's posted on a blog, you post a blog.
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Here's something a little more recent:
Nanos | National Post
TORONTO — The Conservative Party extended its lead over the Liberals to 11 points in an opinion poll released Monday, driving deeper into territory that could win them a majority in a May 2 federal election. The Nanos Research tracking poll of results over three days of surveys put support for the Conservatives at 41.2%
Yep.. Looks like getting the green-light from Nik Nanos is the kiss of death.
Don't get all bent outta shape on this MF... The facts are that Nanos is notoriously inaccurate, in fact, those Party's that he backs seem to fade into nothingness.
Quite the conundrum you are facing, non?
Except that all the other pollsters are saying the same thing - including the conservative slanted ones.
Yet, you made the conscious decision to quote results from a pollster that is renown for being 180 degrees wrong.
Like I said, may as well be the kiss of death for Trudeau Jr.
RIP Liberal Party of Canada
Like I said, may as well be the kiss of death for Trudeau Jr.
RIP Liberal Party of Canada
Here's a curmudgeon candy to help ease your pain.
Now, back to the real world..
Whatever Justin Trudeau is selling, a goodly portion of Canadians are buying it
Like many parties in power, the Conservatives seem blissfully unaware of gathering troubles. They mock their opponents even as they gather strength. They explain away clear manifestations of a changing landscape with increasingly implausible rationalizations. They repeat mantras they themselves find comforting but which have little impact outside the tight circle of partisans.
Monday’s by election results are an object lesson. In Toronto the liberals held onto one riding and stole another from the NDP. The Conservatives held two ridings in Alberta but by significantly decreased margins. By-elections are meaningless until they have meaning and the Tories would be foolish to ignore lessons hammered home by these results.
Let’s start with Justin Trudeau. Harper and his operatives have made the grave error of thinking a plurality of Canadians share their dim view of the Liberal leader. The Tories and many pundits including some of my friends at this newspaper have dismissed Justin as a kind of self-defeating and temporary pest whose time on the political stage must just be waited out.
They spin his every utterance as a career killing gaff. But Justin proved to be ahead of the parade when he spoke out on pot, his abortion stance is clearly having little negative blow back and no matter how many times people chortle that “he likes Communist China” that’s never going to be anything more than a talk radio drive by.
Sure people in Reform country still mummer “shame shame” at the mention of Justin’s father but that doesn’t automatically cancel out the votes of two generations who treasure the heady days of having a celebrity PM.
Whatever Justin is selling, a goodly portion of Canadians are buying it.
Whatever Justin Trudeau is selling, a goodly portion of Canadians are buying it
Now, back to the real world..
Whatever Justin Trudeau is selling, a goodly portion of Canadians are buying it
Like many parties in power, the Conservatives seem blissfully unaware of gathering troubles. They mock their opponents even as they gather strength. They explain away clear manifestations of a changing landscape with increasingly implausible rationalizations. They repeat mantras they themselves find comforting but which have little impact outside the tight circle of partisans.
Monday’s by election results are an object lesson. In Toronto the liberals held onto one riding and stole another from the NDP. The Conservatives held two ridings in Alberta but by significantly decreased margins. By-elections are meaningless until they have meaning and the Tories would be foolish to ignore lessons hammered home by these results.
Let’s start with Justin Trudeau. Harper and his operatives have made the grave error of thinking a plurality of Canadians share their dim view of the Liberal leader. The Tories and many pundits including some of my friends at this newspaper have dismissed Justin as a kind of self-defeating and temporary pest whose time on the political stage must just be waited out.
They spin his every utterance as a career killing gaff. But Justin proved to be ahead of the parade when he spoke out on pot, his abortion stance is clearly having little negative blow back and no matter how many times people chortle that “he likes Communist China” that’s never going to be anything more than a talk radio drive by.
Sure people in Reform country still mummer “shame shame” at the mention of Justin’s father but that doesn’t automatically cancel out the votes of two generations who treasure the heady days of having a celebrity PM.
Whatever Justin is selling, a goodly portion of Canadians are buying it.
Whatever Justin Trudeau is selling, a goodly portion of Canadians are buying it
Captain, even you don't believe that. Nanos is usually right on the money. Harper is the one who should be worried.
The pollsters have all been wrong in the last number of elections, especially provincial... What does it mean today?.. Not very much in the end... Hell, no one projected the election results that saw the NDP make massive gains, so I am always highly skeptical of the projections regardless of who they favour
There is only one poll that counts and we'll all be privy to those results in a year or so.
As for Harper, I believe that it's fair to say that the pundits and pollsters have been predicting doom 'n gloom for him, prior to his minority gvt and during his tenure... This is par for the course at this point
don't tell that to flossy...he'll have a conniption...besides, if the flowery shiny pony was doing so well they'd have stolen a con seat...but nope. eh floss? :lol:
You guys really aren't getting the concept of a trend here.
Trudeau's byelection scorecard shows momentum
Trudeau's byelection scorecard shows momentum
Momentum and actual progress would have been the Libs taking a seat at the Conservative's expense
You have to hand it to the guy when typically right wing rags like NP take the time to craft something like this:
Michael Den Tandt: Byelections undeniably show a shift in Justin Trudeau’s favour
The fact that Kelly McParland, who is basically the NP's version of Walter, will also admit to Trudeau's appeal, is a big sign.
Michael Den Tandt: Byelections undeniably show a shift in Justin Trudeau’s favour
The fact that Kelly McParland, who is basically the NP's version of Walter, will also admit to Trudeau's appeal, is a big sign.
2015 elections are still a long ways away, and a lot can happen between now and then. And there was nothing too surprising about the results of the byelections, except that the Liebrals pretty soundly throunced the NDP in one of the Toronto ridings.
What is becoming apparent is that the attack campaigns that worked so well against Dion and Ignateiff are not working with Trudeau. With some of the gaffes he's made, Trudeau's practically painted a target on his own head, but thus far the Tories have not been able to do much damage. It will be interesting to see if the Conservatvies are even capable of running a positive campaign under Harper. I imagine that the Conservative plan is to balance the budget early and then dump a bunch of money into the system.
Compared to you, Attila the Hun was a leftie.
What is becoming apparent is that the attack campaigns that worked so well against Dion and Ignateiff are not working with Trudeau. With some of the gaffes he's made, Trudeau's practically painted a target on his own head, but thus far the Tories have not been able to do much damage. It will be interesting to see if the Conservatvies are even capable of running a positive campaign under Harper. I imagine that the Conservative plan is to balance the budget early and then dump a bunch of money into the system.
Compared to you, Attila the Hun was a leftie.
Th e Liberals have moved only slightly to the left since the election of Harper
Likely the reason I may vote for them as Harper has moved way to the right
beyond what I can support
Likely the reason I may vote for them as Harper has moved way to the right
beyond what I can support
