Liberals back CSIS in torture lawsuit

[CDNBear]

Liberals back CSIS in torture lawsuit

Liberals back CSIS in torture lawsuit | Toronto Star

OTTAWA—The Liberal government has taken up the former Conservative government’s legal fight against an apology and compensation for three Canadians tortured in the Middle East, despite voting in favour of the former detainees’ cause while they sat in opposition.

As well, in aggressively defending the actions of CSIS and trying to prevent the release of thousands of unredacted documents that a judge is now poring over, the Liberals are going further than their Conservative predecessors did to protect CSIS sources.



I remember the LIberal govt and its fluffers losing their collective minds over the Conservatives withholding documents.

HA! Liberal ethics.

 

[DaSleeper]

The shoe's on the other foot eh?

I think they made a song about that?

 

[Retired_Can_Soldier]

I have always had a disdain for the idea that opposition must always oppose, not because it is vehemently against it, but because just agreeing with the government is wrong.

 

[JLM]

I have always had a disdain for the idea that opposition must always oppose, not because it is vehemently against it, but because just agreeing with the government is wrong.

You got that right! Obnoxiousness seems to be a growing trend these days doesn't it?

 

[JLM]

You got that right! Obnoxiousness seems to be a growing trend these days doesn't it?

Interesting that the prime author of obnoxiousness objects to discussion of it. Does that amount to hypocrisy?

 

[Curious Cdn]

Liberals back CSIS in torture lawsuit

Liberals back CSIS in torture lawsuit | Toronto Star

OTTAWA—The Liberal government has taken up the former Conservative government’s legal fight against an apology and compensation for three Canadians tortured in the Middle East, despite voting in favour of the former detainees’ cause while they sat in opposition.

As well, in aggressively defending the actions of CSIS and trying to prevent the release of thousands of unredacted documents that a judge is now poring over, the Liberals are going further than their Conservative predecessors did to protect CSIS sources.



I remember the LIberal govt and its fluffers losing their collective minds over the Conservatives withholding documents.

HA! Liberal ethics.

Arrar was tortured during a Liberal government and probably all of the other "events" happened back then, too. If the Liberals think that they are somehow going to shirk responsibility for Canada's history because they are periodically out of power, they have another thing coming to them. They have been in power for most of Canada's history and they wear most of it, both good and bad.

 

[FiveParadox]

I remember the LIberal govt and its fluffers losing their collective minds over the Conservatives withholding documents.

The issue was not that the Government was withholding the documents in general. There are many legitimate reasons for withholding unredacted documents, and in a lot of cases, depending on who is asking for them, the Government should have the privilege of keeping those documents secret.

However, the way in which the Government keeps documents secret or redacted must comply with the law. The privileges of Parliament are long-fought and hard-won, and the Government does not have the right to rebuke those privileges. That is the basis of the Liberal opposition to the Conservatives' illegal withholding of Afghan detainee documents.

The issue was not that the documents were initially withheld. Governments withhold documents in the course of their operations, and this is pretty par for the course at this point. However, Parliament has the unfettered right to order the production of papers and documents to enable it to oversee the work of the executive. The Government does not have the right to tell the Commons, if they vote in the majority, "No, you cannot have that information."

The issue was one of contempt of Parliament, and not one of simply withholding documents.

You know that very well. Don't attempt to make them look like comparable situations.

The protection of CSIS sources should be paramount. Ensuring that CSIS can continue to collect, coordinate, and provide intelligence to the Government of Canada is a key consideration, and compromising the confidentiality of sources' identities in the course of judicial proceedings could do irreparable harm to the country's intelligence work.

 

[damngrumpy]

It is the way the system works the Liberals are now the government and the
fact is the institutions of government require being defended As Bruce Hornsby
and the Range use to sing "Its the way it is"

 

[CDNBear]

The protection of CSIS sources should be paramount. Ensuring that CSIS can continue to collect, coordinate, and provide intelligence to the Government of Canada is a key consideration, and compromising the confidentiality of sources' identities in the course of judicial proceedings could do irreparable harm to the country's intelligence work.

Funny, that was the exact same argument forwarded by myself, the sitting govt and many pundits, when the opposition voted to force the Conservative to produce the documents. A precedent setting act against a sit govt during an ongoing military conflict.