Let's call a tax a tax!

Johnnny

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Were not going to stand out. Our emmisions compared to the rest of the world is miniscule.

Stupid if you ask me. Let's reduce 1% of global emmisions say we saved the world. You know what I mean? Let's clean out our air so everyone else pollution can recirculate here.
 

mentalfloss

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Oh? When is that happening?



and BTW, the u.s., India, russia and China don't give a rats a$$ about how much co2 we do or do not produce.

Of course they do.

They've already made public statements about cooperation with us and other western states.
 

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Danbones

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That's because c02 emissions are only to be used as maurice strong has said is the actual goal, to destroy the industrial nations to "save the planet"
...for the idle rich

...and because this idea of destroying the industrial nations is based on RETARDED inbred brain dead bull crap - global warming now "climate change"...jeez how stupid can you get?

Anyone who supports a carbone tax is an actual canadian's, most mortal enemy
not to mention every other normal human, and every other life form on the planet.
 
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Obama is talking about a 30% reduction in emmissions, Mentalfloss. How much of a reduction will you be implementing into your lifestyle?
 

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It has to be top down.

Everything needs to be top down for lefties. They feel the government knows best and puts the interests of people ahead of dollars. We know that isn't the case at all. How is your letter to Notley coming along. I'd like it done before the HALO fundraiser

It's not.

Countries pay attention.

Especially when you can say you've found a way to reduce emissions and benefit your economy.

Yes, because the Canadian economy and the Chinese economy are exactly the same
 

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Everything needs to be top down for lefties. They feel the government knows best and puts the interests of people ahead of dollars. We know that isn't the case at all. How is your letter to Notley coming along. I'd like it done before the HALO fundraiser



Yes, because the Canadian economy and the Chinese economy are exactly the same
Sure are. I clearly recall mornings in Hainan province, watching the lumberjacks head out for a hard day's work in their plaid flannel shirts and toques, happy that they were critical to their country's resource-extraction based economy.
 

taxslave

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Let's call a good policy a good policy.

We do. This isn't. Unless the tax applies to exports as well.

When they go to the UN, they have more influence on others to reduce their emissions.

TrudOWE already made us the laughing stock of the civilized world.

Oh the ignorant. :roll:


Mighty white of them to make commitments for future governments.So what are the penalties for missing the targets? No icecream ?
 

mentalfloss

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The deniers are triggered.

Just letting you guys know now that your anger is misplaced and you can choose to accept reality or just be salty until you die.

You can continue to let Trudeau dominate by perpetually fighting an old fight, or you can evolve your platform (like the Ontario PCs).

It's really up to you.



Justin Trudeau is right to break the national carbon-pricing logjam

Not surprisingly, being pushed outside of their comfort zones has elicited negative reactions from some provinces. The environment ministers of Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador stormed out of a meeting with their federal counterpart, Catherine McKenna, in protest. Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall called the plan a “betrayal” of pledges to let provinces set their own environmental agendas.

These complaints ignore the amount of flexibility that provinces will have under the new plan. As long as their ambition is comparable, provinces can choose between a carbon tax or cap-and-trade system. If a province is starting from scratch, it has until 2018 to put the pieces in place. Provinces that already have carbon prices have even longer to meet the new standards.

More importantly, each province will decide how to invest the revenue generated by carbon pricing – a figure that will be in the billions nationally. As demonstrated by the decisions provinces have made regarding carbon pricing revenue, there’s no single right answer. Quebec has used cap-and-trade revenue to invest in green projects; B.C. has used carbon tax revenue to lower other taxes. Empowering the provinces to continue making those decisions gives them the flexibility to tailor the use of revenue to their specific opportunities and challenges.

Beyond the politics, it’s important to not lose sight of the carbon price itself and the incentive it will provide to reduce carbon pollution. While the $10 per tonne price floor in 2018 is nominal (about two cents a litre on gasoline), the increase to $50 per tonne by 2022 is more substantive. This clear signal will help make renewable energy and energy efficiency a more affordable choice for households and businesses.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/sec.the...am/article32377225/?service=amp?client=safari
 

Tecumsehsbones

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The deniers are triggered.

Just letting you guys know now that your anger is misplaced and you can choose to accept reality or just be salty until you die.

You can continue to let Trudeau dominate by perpetually fighting an old fight, or you can evolve your platform (like the Ontario PCs).

It's really up to you.



Justin Trudeau is right to break the national carbon-pricing logjam

Not surprisingly, being pushed outside of their comfort zones has elicited negative reactions from some provinces. The environment ministers of Saskatchewan, Nova Scotia and Newfoundland and Labrador stormed out of a meeting with their federal counterpart, Catherine McKenna, in protest. Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall called the plan a “betrayal” of pledges to let provinces set their own environmental agendas.

These complaints ignore the amount of flexibility that provinces will have under the new plan. As long as their ambition is comparable, provinces can choose between a carbon tax or cap-and-trade system. If a province is starting from scratch, it has until 2018 to put the pieces in place. Provinces that already have carbon prices have even longer to meet the new standards.

More importantly, each province will decide how to invest the revenue generated by carbon pricing – a figure that will be in the billions nationally. As demonstrated by the decisions provinces have made regarding carbon pricing revenue, there’s no single right answer. Quebec has used cap-and-trade revenue to invest in green projects; B.C. has used carbon tax revenue to lower other taxes. Empowering the provinces to continue making those decisions gives them the flexibility to tailor the use of revenue to their specific opportunities and challenges.

Beyond the politics, it’s important to not lose sight of the carbon price itself and the incentive it will provide to reduce carbon pollution. While the $10 per tonne price floor in 2018 is nominal (about two cents a litre on gasoline), the increase to $50 per tonne by 2022 is more substantive. This clear signal will help make renewable energy and energy efficiency a more affordable choice for households and businesses.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/sec.the...am/article32377225/?service=amp?client=safari

You're right about that. I'll give Trudeaubama credit for three things:

1. He did what he promised he'd do in this case.

2. He makes it pretty clear to the voters exactly what their choice is in the next election.

3. He kept his shirt on.
 

taxslave

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From the Gloom&Wail no less. Must be true then.
One good thing is it will guarantee trudOWE will not serve more than one term as PM.Probably close the door on anyone from Quebec ever having a shot at the job.That at least is the upside to this ta scam. The downside is an economic crash and hardship for hundreds of thousands outside the trust fund-government paycheque circle jerk.
 

mentalfloss

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Considering the Liberals have a 50% hold in the polls right now and Trudeau's approval rating keeps going up, and Canadians actually want a federal carbon pricing mechanism, it is a lofty claim that he will lose the next election.

But hey, if you want to continue to be salty and let him win another one, then just keep on keepin on.

I'm sure there will be some terrorist act in the future that you guys are desperately hoping for in order to gain some political capital.