Lamborghini thinks Tesla is bluffing with the Roadster, doesn’t see battery tech

petros

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There have been oodles of variations but at Indy it's open. You could have 30,000 rats on a treadmill.

NASCAR is a complete and total differ set of rules.

You or I have to be able to buy what they run.

$10KUSD for an engine but they are available.

When an electric wins Daytona then I'll I'll be the first guy to buy one.
 

Bar Sinister

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In 1974 Sky Lab was this first step to villages on the moon by 1990.



Turbines are electric motors?






Mr. Barilko did not ask that. He asked what engine was handicapped after it was shown to be superior to conventional engines. Get in the loop before you post.

IDK if they get banned it would prove they can go the distance and if they can be competitive I would look at them in a different light, not as a gimmick and a joke.


There is no problem checking the facts of my post. Although mechanical problems sidelined the turbine car in the Indie 500 it was running away with the race at the time. Sponsors of the race did not like the idea of a new type of engine making conventional engines look ridiculous and regulations were passed that handicapped the air intake of the turbine, essentially making it non-competitive.

When an electric wins Daytona then I'll I'll be the first guy to buy one.


As I said, I doubt that the race organizers would let in an electric car. The Daytona is heavily sponsored by oil companies.
 

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Bill Nye wrote a widely read piece urging NASCAR to go all electric and help push the technology.

There is no way NASCAR will ever do that. As in all things NASCAR will have to be dragged into the future.

As you mentioned they are an oil and gas sponsored industry.
 

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Let's try to understand technological progress. The model T, the electric light, and even the internal combustion engine started out as concepts. Every new invention does. Electric cars are not going to go away just because you don't like them.




The last time a radically different type of engine beat the pants off conventional engines so many restrictions were placed on it that they became useless. It is only a matter of time until electrically powered vehicles can outdo most internal combustion engines. I suspect when that happens sports like Formula 1 and stock car racing will ban them.

Stands to reason. After all it is a car race, not a sewing machine race.

Bill Nye wrote a widely read piece urging NASCAR to go all electric and help push the technology.

There is no way NASCAR will ever do that. As in all things NASCAR will have to be dragged into the future.

As you mentioned they are an oil and gas sponsored industry.

That's because it is all about pistons, not cordless sewing machines.
 

bill barilko

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Part of a long article on electric race car winning over internal combustion-Click Here for the complete story



COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo.—All it took was two visits to the annual Pikes Peak International Hill Climb for it to steal our hearts. The second-oldest motor race in the United States—only the Indy 500 predates it—is unlike virtually every other professional motorsports event we cover. And this year's edition proved to be novel in its own right.

Last weekend, we were on hand to witness French racing driver Romain Dumas and car maker Volkswagen stamp their authority on all 12.4-miles (19.99km) of the course, destroying its existing record and setting the first sub-eight minute time in race history. What makes the feat even more interesting around Ars is that the car in the record books is all-electric, marking perhaps the first time in major motorsport that a battery electric vehicle has beaten the internal combustion engine fair and square.

FURTHER READING
Racing with royalty—Behind the scenes with Pikes Peak’s “King of the Mountain”
In retrospect, if any car has an advantage at Pikes Peak it's the EV. The start line is already at 9,390 feet (2,862m) above sea level; the finish line is an even higher 14,110 feet (4,300m), and much of the course is above the tree line, where there's 40 percent less oxygen to breathe. Consequently, internal combustion engines will lose power—significantly—as they climb the route, even with the aid of forced induction or crafty fuel mixtures.

But electric motors don't care about partial pressures of oxygen, and these will output the same power and torque whether they're at the top of the mountain or the bottom. And with only one run per car allowed on race day, there's little reason to be anxious about range. Carry just enough battery to get you to the top, keep it in its optimum temperature window, et voila. It could result in history.