Right on, typical BHO; as soon as something goes wrong he's against it. Which of the Repubs voted for the law?
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Labor Unions: Obamacare Will 'Shatter' Our Health Benefits, Cause 'Nightmare Scenario
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I agree - it's nothing more than a bad joke.
I'm truly amazed that the Unions are (only now) realizing the impacts that it is having. I suppose that they believed that they were sticking-it to the corporations and there would be no reaction... Looks like they were VERY wrong on that front.
I'm truly amazed that the Unions are (only now) realizing the impacts that it is having. I suppose that they believed that they were sticking-it to the corporations and there would be no reaction... Looks like they were VERY wrong on that front.
HHS Admits: Despite Obama’s “Guarantee” You Might Not Be Able To Keep Your Doctor Under Obamacare…
Please, try and contain your shock and amazement.
Via Weekly Standard:
Please, try and contain your shock and amazement.
Via Weekly Standard:
Operative sentences:
'“Depending on the plan you choose in the Marketplace, you may be able to keep your current doctor.” The bottom line is that Obamacare guarantees neither. Doctors may be only available through certain networks, just as in the current system.'
(Second emphasis mine.)
Only an idiotlogue* would try to interpret the administration's guarantee as an absolute statement that "you can keep your current doctor" even if that doctor dies, retires, or chooses not to accept the health plan you want.
* A portmanteau combining "ideologue" and "idiot."
Give credit for this piece of destructive work to Senators Max Baucus (Montana) and Harry Reid (Nevada) and Congress Woman Nancy Pelosi. All are exempt from this and all have sold the people they represent out. Baucus is now an unwelcome soon to be retired Senator who isn't appreciated one bit in his home state. His nick name is "Sellout Max."
There is no Obamacare. The original proposal was incomplete and inadequate. Then arms got twisted and the spineless Dem support evaporated, then Ted Kennedy died and there was nobody left to speak up, then the Repugs started revising and the Dems continued caving. The resulting "compromise" was a lot more like hit-and-run, and the HMO's (who, incidentally, make more profit than ever) started screaming, and then the RCC joined the chorus.....
Yep, USian politics is a 3-ring circus. And we're sitting in Ring #4.
Contrary to all the right wing propaganda, Obamacare will benefit union and other workers:
GOP Talking Points Falling Apart: ‘Obamacare” Will Save BILLIONS in Lower Premiums
GOP Talking Points Falling Apart: 'Obamacare" Will Save BILLIONS in Lower Premiums - Occupy Democrats
It’s official: not only will “Obamacare” provide much better health insurance coverage for the American people and radically improve our nation’s healthcare system, it will also save Americans billions of dollars per year due to consumer protections that limit how much insurance can profit off of Americans’ premiums. Most of those savings stem from individual health plan providers lowering the premiums they charge Americans in order to comply with the new law.
This eviscerates the dangerous Republican talking point that Obamacare would inevitably lead to higher premiums, although you can bet that you won’t be hearing this on the latest FOXNews alert bulletin.
According to a new study by the Kaiser Family Foundation, Americans who bought individual health plans in 2012 saved a staggering $2.1 billion thanks to these Obamacare consumer protections alone.
Perhaps due to our complacent corporate media, many Americans do not know that Elizabeth Warren’s brainchild, the historic Consumer Protection Agency, is in charge of imposing these strict consumer protections and keeping the previously unchecked insurance companies from gouging the American people.
This comes on the heels of another extremely positive development for Pres. Obama’s signature healthcare reform, as several major California insurers announced that they would have to pay back $36 million to small businesses and their employees after conveniently overcharging them.
The Affordable Care Act mandates that all insurers on the individual minute market spend at least 80% of their premiums on actual medical services, and not administrative expenses such as marketing and sales force.
Before the implementation of Obamacare, insurers were financing giant advertising campaigns with money they earned from ripping off the least fortunate and healthy among us. Now, Pres. Obama and his right-hand woman, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, have ensured that at least 80% of our premiums will go to making us healthier and not to lining the profits of predatory insurance companies.
The good thing is, insurers can avoid writing those checks after-the-fact if they simply lower their premiums to begin with, and the Kaiser study found that that is exactly what many individual plan providers have been doing. By their estimates, individual market insurers lowered premiums by $856 million in 2011 and by $1.9 billion in 2012 in order to comply with this wonderful Obamacare regulation.
Look at this incredible graph displaying how much money Americans saved in the years 2011 and 2012 and individual medical market (click to enlarge):
.... more ....
GOP Talking Points Falling Apart: ‘Obamacare” Will Save BILLIONS in Lower Premiums
GOP Talking Points Falling Apart: 'Obamacare" Will Save BILLIONS in Lower Premiums - Occupy Democrats
It’s official: not only will “Obamacare” provide much better health insurance coverage for the American people and radically improve our nation’s healthcare system, it will also save Americans billions of dollars per year due to consumer protections that limit how much insurance can profit off of Americans’ premiums. Most of those savings stem from individual health plan providers lowering the premiums they charge Americans in order to comply with the new law.
This eviscerates the dangerous Republican talking point that Obamacare would inevitably lead to higher premiums, although you can bet that you won’t be hearing this on the latest FOXNews alert bulletin.
According to a new study by the Kaiser Family Foundation, Americans who bought individual health plans in 2012 saved a staggering $2.1 billion thanks to these Obamacare consumer protections alone.
Perhaps due to our complacent corporate media, many Americans do not know that Elizabeth Warren’s brainchild, the historic Consumer Protection Agency, is in charge of imposing these strict consumer protections and keeping the previously unchecked insurance companies from gouging the American people.
This comes on the heels of another extremely positive development for Pres. Obama’s signature healthcare reform, as several major California insurers announced that they would have to pay back $36 million to small businesses and their employees after conveniently overcharging them.
The Affordable Care Act mandates that all insurers on the individual minute market spend at least 80% of their premiums on actual medical services, and not administrative expenses such as marketing and sales force.
Before the implementation of Obamacare, insurers were financing giant advertising campaigns with money they earned from ripping off the least fortunate and healthy among us. Now, Pres. Obama and his right-hand woman, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, have ensured that at least 80% of our premiums will go to making us healthier and not to lining the profits of predatory insurance companies.
The good thing is, insurers can avoid writing those checks after-the-fact if they simply lower their premiums to begin with, and the Kaiser study found that that is exactly what many individual plan providers have been doing. By their estimates, individual market insurers lowered premiums by $856 million in 2011 and by $1.9 billion in 2012 in order to comply with this wonderful Obamacare regulation.
Look at this incredible graph displaying how much money Americans saved in the years 2011 and 2012 and individual medical market (click to enlarge):
.... more ....
Why don't you do some research and just tell us? spinning off the top of your noggin is getting rather lame, - Walt...
What a disaster...
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/u...health-law-vexes-lawmakers-aides.html?hp&_r=0
Wrinkle in Health Law Vexes Lawmakers’ Aides
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/30/u...health-law-vexes-lawmakers-aides.html?hp&_r=0
Wrinkle in Health Law Vexes Lawmakers’ Aides
Contrary to the right wing delusionalism that the Koch brothers will have you believe, Obamacare is working:
Obamacare works where state officials want it to work - The Maddow Blog
The states are coming around to this realization!
Obamacare works where state officials want it to work - The Maddow Blog
The states are coming around to this realization!
Who quoted state officials that are saying Obamacare works.
Now let's see some proof from your "sources" which refute any of what you just read.
Canadian labour unions were never controlled by the mob, except maybe in Montrael, and universal coverage never hurt a union.
In terms of a capitalist trying to take over the world via buying, versus citizens just wanting to live a happy life with mate and kids, we can start with, "The Queen already has the top spot."
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Now the man in charge of enforcing Obamacare doesn't want it... nor does his minions.
IRS Chief: I Want to Keep My Health Care Plan, Not Switch to Obamacare | The Weekly Standard
Time to repeal this travesty.
Did he REALLY quote Rachel Maddow?!
IRS Chief: I Want to Keep My Health Care Plan, Not Switch to Obamacare | The Weekly Standard
Time to repeal this travesty.
Did he REALLY quote Rachel Maddow?!
IRS employees have NTEU coverage.
The article I used quoted the governor of Maryland who confirmed that Obamacare worked.
Who would you prefer that I quote, the discredited Lauren Green of your heroes in Fo卐?
Close, but no banana. The NTEU is their (toothless, laughable) union.
But the reason I say "close" is that the health-care exchanges and many other features of Obamacare are modelled on the Federal government's employee health care.
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Employees have coverage through those NTEU affiliates. Having been an IRS agent back in the 1970s and 80s we had coverage thru NTEU's affiliates - my plan was HIP and it was generally good. Still exists all these years later.
In my view the Obamacare package didn't go far enough, it allowed these
managed care pirates to exist. Many of these unions are heavily invested
and pension fund invested in those private managed healthcare companies.
So much for what we want for ourselves we want for others.
The going to part time in a red herring at best. These silly things were done
in Saskatchewan in the first couple of years as well. The millionaires stopped
at nothing to destroy the program and it didn't work. Once ordinary families
get used to healthcare they can afford views will change.
managed care pirates to exist. Many of these unions are heavily invested
and pension fund invested in those private managed healthcare companies.
So much for what we want for ourselves we want for others.
The going to part time in a red herring at best. These silly things were done
in Saskatchewan in the first couple of years as well. The millionaires stopped
at nothing to destroy the program and it didn't work. Once ordinary families
get used to healthcare they can afford views will change.