Kyoto Protocol

Twin_Moose

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I guess you were prevented from voting or taking any part in the election that resulted in Trudeau becoming the Prime Minister.

We did our job in the prairies and voted Harper, you gullible Easterners rode the anyone but Harper train because he treated the country equally and not favouring Ont. and Que.
 

Hoid

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Oh so everyone did have an opportunity to participate in the democratic process?

Because someone was whining about not having had that opportunity.
 

spilledthebeer

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I agree whole-heartedly. The monarch is a thing of the past.


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IDIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The monarchy is our govt referee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Canada could NEVER AGREE on a constitution!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Which is why the crap document Pierre Trudeau dumped on us contains the "not withstanding clause"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Given the political makeup of Canada- it is NOT POSSIBLE to get agreement to drop the monarchy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The ONLY reason Pierre Trudeau bothered with his constitution is because he wanted to create his Human Rights kangaroo Courts to restrict "hate speech" !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


By which Pierre meant speech not approved by the LIE-beral party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Decapoda

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Because someone was whining about not having had that opportunity.

As usual, you're so off base that I have given up trying to explain such a simple concept to you. It's not worth it, you're either a troll or a complete moron. Just because you show such imbecilic stupidity as to be clearly and obviously incapable of following a simple premise, doesn't mean your message has any stock...in fact, it's the contrary.

Pure idiot.
 
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Hoid

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I believe he now understands that what Canada does at the UN is done in the interest of Canadians by Canadians who represent all Canadians
 

spilledthebeer

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You know, when and if the liberals loose power, this kyoto issue will probably blow over. Well, I certainly hope it will.

I think it's a good thing at the moment, still, I'm not educated on the topic. It could kill Canadian industry in so many sectors. Especially, as Sumofallfears said in Alberta.

Does anybody have the whole lowdown on the Kyoto Accord?


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Simple answer- Kyoto was a COSTLY RIP OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Kyoto involved taxing the ordinary people of the west into the ground so LIE-beral could buy carbon credits from third world dictators- ALLEGEDLY to help them deal with global warming!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


While at the same time using the LIE-beral carbon crap and trade scam to make sure that NO civil service union Hog ever had to shrink their carbon footprint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Your job and your life would be DESTROYED by the carbon crap and trade scam while LIE-berals and Hogs flew off to Florida to play golf!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Or drove off in the family SUV to play with gas guzzling sea doos and atv`s in beautiful Muskoka Lakes area- while you swelter in your little apt BOX because air conditioning is for IMPORTANT PEOPLE - LIKE LIE-beral supporters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Under Kyoto- air conditioning., gasoline, motor vehicles and decent jobs would ONLY be available to dictators and their supporters in third world countries and to Cdn LIE-berals and their supporters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Just think in terms of a GREATLY EXPANDED VERSION of the tax revelations in the disgraceful Paradise Papers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Currently Our idiot Boy Justin is sending $2 billion dollars per year off to Viet Nam to buy "carbon credits"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why Viet Nam and not another place like Ethiopia???????????????


Only a LIE-beral knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And NO LIE-beral has yet explained how giving $2 billion dollars to Viet Nam has helped our environment in ANY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!



What WE CAN BE SURE OF is that the $2 billion sent to Viet Nam HAS worsened the world environment because it has given the Viet`s an extra $2 billion a year to buy more cars, motorbikes. air conditioners and etc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


The LIE-beral idea of buying carbon credits is actually making the air WORSE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


But it IS BUYING LIE-berals some votes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And buying LIE-berals enough votes that they can cling to power at any price is ALL THAT MATTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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As usual, you're so off base that I have given up trying to explain such a simple concept to you. It's not worth it, you're either a troll or a complete moron. Just because you show such imbecilic stupidity as to be clearly and obviously incapable of following a simple premise, doesn't mean your message has any stock...in fact, it's the contrary.

Pure idiot.


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Oh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Calling HOID AN IDIOT IS wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PROPER LABELS FOR HOID WOULD INCLUDE THE FOLLOWING:::


PROPAGANDA MEISTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


PURVEYOR OF LIE-BERAL FAKE NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


SHAMELESS MANIPULATOR OF THE TWISTED LIE-BERAL VERSION OF HALF TRUTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


In short any label that you can think of that suggests Hoid is cleverly altering the truth to make LIE-berals look good instead of exposing them as slimy Fakes would fit Hoid nicely!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


For instance, Hoid has so strongly defended those COSTLY LIE-beral electric TOY cars that I am sure he must own a LARGE CHUNK of Tesla stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


How else to explain such ferocious devotion to a experimental vehicle that costs twice as much as a gas powered car and features



such draw backs as a more limited cargo capacity, NO towing capacity, limited range that gets drastically further crippled when the



temperature goes below 10 celcius, and a very slow and awkward refueling system that will take ALL night unless you drop a couple



of grand on a state of the art fast charger for your home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

EagleSmack

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Nice Necro thread.


Kyoto Failed just like Paris Failed.


How many tens of millions did Canada owe before they pulled out of Kyoto?


*snicker*
 

Decapoda

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Kyoto Failed just like Paris Failed.

Did it??

Kyoto was the genesis and laid much of the groundwork for much of the "carbon pricing" and globalist wealth transfer we see today. Dion revealed his "green Shift Plan" in 2008...it was a miserable failure, people rejected it outright. Ten years later, a carbon tax is a reality in Canada, and many people are actually begging to be taxed more so we can save the planet.

I suspect this new UN globalist immigration compact will follow the same trajectory. It's merely the first step in softening people up for future pacts which will undoubtedly be binding, and policy changing. Welcome to the beginning of the end of sovereignty as we know it.
 

spilledthebeer

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Did it??

Kyoto was the genesis and laid much of the groundwork for much of the "carbon pricing" and globalist wealth transfer we see today. Dion revealed his "green Shift Plan" in 2008...it was a miserable failure, people rejected it outright. Ten years later, a carbon tax is a reality in Canada, and many people are actually begging to be taxed more so we can save the planet.

I suspect this new UN globalist immigration compact will follow the same trajectory. It's merely the first step in softening people up for future pacts which will undoubtedly be binding, and policy changing. Welcome to the beginning of the end of sovereignty as we know it.


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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is LIE-berals themselves who are now telling us that the Paris Accord is a total failure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And it is LIE-berals who tell us that Kyoto was a FAILURE because United States did not sign on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


It is United Nations that is telling us that TRULY DRASTIC ACTION MUST BE TAKEN to save the environment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- it is LIE-berals that tell us that TRULY ECONOMY BREAKING ACTION is needed IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And of course what LIE-berals are really trying to save is THEIR GRAND GRAVY TRAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



And it is HONEST REPORTERS who tell us that the European carbon crap and trade tax SCAM is a CRIMINAL FARCE!!!!!!!!!!!!


And the same honest reporters tell us that the Cdn LIE-beral carbon crap and trade scam is FAILING EXACTLY like its European version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Honest reporters tell us that LIE-beral carbon crap and trade scam is nothing but a massive cash grab that only cleans money out of wallets and leaves the dirt in the air!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And honest reporters are telling us that Our idiot Boy and his loser LIE-berals are going to stick with their carbon crap and trade scam even if it get them thrown out of office in 20191!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Yes- LIE-berals are staying with their carbon crap scam even though our LIE-beral Environment Minister - the famous Climate Barbie- accesssories such as carbon credits sold extra- has ALREADY ADMITTED that the LIE-beral carbon scam is a JOB KILLER!!!!!!!!!!



And based on recent polls- it seems likely that MANY LIE-berals will be hitting the unemployment line in 2019!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I say again: public rage is growing so rapidly that the BEST that Our idiot Boy can hope for in 2019 is a short lived minority govt!!!!!!!!!
 

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Did it??

Kyoto was the genesis and laid much of the groundwork for much of the "carbon pricing" and globalist wealth transfer we see today. Dion revealed his "green Shift Plan" in 2008...it was a miserable failure, people rejected it outright. Ten years later, a carbon tax is a reality in Canada, and many people are actually begging to be taxed more so we can save the planet.

I suspect this new UN globalist immigration compact will follow the same trajectory. It's merely the first step in softening people up for future pacts which will undoubtedly be binding, and policy changing. Welcome to the beginning of the end of sovereignty as we know it.






Yes it failed. None of the countries are hitting their targets and they have no intention of hitting them. Canada is a prime example. It pulled out of Kyoto before having to pay tens of millions of dollars and has recently been outed as being one of the worst offenders of the Paris Agreement. Sure the Trudeau Administration says they're onboard but their actions speak otherwise.


The recent conference in Poland accomplished nothing except kicking the can down the road to next years Climate Change Conference/Paid Vacation/Junket.



How did the gas tax hike work out for France? How are the carbon taxes working in Canada?
 

spilledthebeer

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Yes it failed. None of the countries are hitting their targets and they have no intention of hitting them. Canada is a prime example. It pulled out of Kyoto before having to pay tens of millions of dollars and has recently been outed as being one of the worst offenders of the Paris Agreement. Sure the Trudeau Administration says they're onboard but their actions speak otherwise.


The recent conference in Poland accomplished nothing except kicking the can down the road to next years Climate Change Conference/Paid Vacation/Junket.



How did the gas tax hike work out for France? How are the carbon taxes working in Canada?


Actually the carbion crap and trade tax scam is working as LIE-berals expected!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



LIE-beral carbon crp is bring home THE GRAVY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As we know it is just a BIG GRAVY GRAB that will do nothing for the environment- except generate those gobs of gravy!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Problem is the carbon crap and trade mess is pissing off the general public to the point even LIE-berals now recognize they are in



DEEP TROUBLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


One has only to look at the SCORNFUL pubic reaction to the just announced $1.6 billion dollar so called LIE-beral aid to Alberta to



see how much trouble LIE-berals are really in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

EagleSmack

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Of course the Canadian Carbon Tax is a scam. Canada has not only missed it's targets, it has increased it's emissions to make it one of the worst polluters in the world.


So where is all the Carbon Tax money going?
 

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Yes it failed. None of the countries are hitting their targets and they have no intention of hitting them. Canada is a prime example. It pulled out of Kyoto before having to pay tens of millions of dollars and has recently been outed as being one of the worst offenders of the Paris Agreement. Sure the Trudeau Administration says they're onboard but their actions speak otherwise.

I'm not defending Kyoto, Paris, or any of the other "failed" pacts or protocols, I'm simply saying that they were the primer which has fueled successive efforts to redistribute wealth and centralize control globally, which continue to fuel propaganda and misinformation today. Statscan just published statistics yesterday showing how worthless "'Green Industries" are and how devastating they are to our economy but that doesn't stop Trudeau and Climate Barbie from wagging their finger at all of us and scolding us on how we need to get off fossil fuels and transition to "clean energy". Despite our best efforts to bring rational discourse to the discussion, we still can't seem to get a pipeline to tidewater, so I guess the propaganda is having some impact.

StatCan just exposed how worthless ‘green’ industries are to Canada’s economy

How did the gas tax hike work out for France? How are the carbon taxes working in Canada?

I think we all know how it's going in France, about the same as Western Canada, but besides making a bunch of noise, Albertans still haven't gotten much of any progress on pipelines.

How are carbon taxes working?? They aren't...but we're still going to pay. And the entire concept of pricing and trading carbon started with Kyoto, hence the point I was making.
 
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EagleSmack

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Do you mean our 1.5% of world emission went up? To what 1.7%?


I'm just going by what the UN Econuts are saying and pointing out that nobody is following the Paris Accord. All countries are doing what is in the best interest of their own countries. Trump just gave them a little cover and someone to point a finger at while they ignore their own obligations.
 

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Hopefully in 11 months Canada will vote to join the US and pull out of the New World order as well and keep the money at home and spend it were it is really needed for Canadians
 
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EagleSmack

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I'm not defending Kyoto, Paris, or any of the other "failed" pacts or protocols, I'm simply saying that they were the primer which has fueled successive efforts to redistribute wealth and centralize control globally, which continue to fuel propaganda and misinformation today. Statscan just published statistics yesterday showing how worthless "'Green Industries" are and how devastating they are to our economy but that doesn't stop Trudeau and Climate Barbie from wagging their finger at all of us and scolding us on how we need to get off fossil fuels. Despite our best efforts, we still can't seem to get a pipelines to tidewater, so I guess the propaganda is having some impact.

StatCan just exposed how worthless ‘green’ industries are to Canada’s economy



I think we all know how it's going in France, about the same as Western Canada, but besides making a bunch of noise, Albertans still haven't gotten much of any progress on pipelines.

How are carbon taxes working?? They aren't...but we're still going to pay. And the entire concept of pricing and trading carbon started with Kyoto, hence the point I was making.


I agree with you. There is a lot of talk, a lot of finger wagging, a lot of conversations... but at the end of the day no country is really concerned.


California Gov. Jerry Brown had all kinds of criticism at the President for pulling out of the Paris Agreement. He was hailed as a hero here in the US among the Econuts. However when he went to the Climate Summit in Bonn last year he was loudly BOOED. Why? Because California is third largest producer of oil and gas in the US. There are oil rigs right in Los Angeles! Not only is California drilling they are chest deep in the fracking business. To add to this, there are no plans to curtail fossil fuel extraction in California.


Canada has the right approach... just talk a good game.
 

Decapoda

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Canada has the right approach... just talk a good game.

I think the right approach is for right minded people to call out the bullshit and vote these clueless morons out of power before they bankrupt us, in the name of servicing their virtue.