Kids Starving In Iraq

peapod

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I can understand that one Jamie, it happens all the time, its called being a hypocrite, and putting on the nice fuzzy warm compassionate farce, especially for political gain. For instance take George bush, here is a man that only seems to have compassion for human beings as long as they are a fetus or have a eating tube. How many programs has george bush cut for seniors and disabled people in the united states?? How many people has george bush executed as governer of texas?? Its all the suffering people between the fetus and deathbed that does not matter to him, what does that tell you jamie.??
 

jamie

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I bet you talk about poor starving children at the dinner table, just before you throw out the rest of your meal. :knob:
 

crit13

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Blah! straving childern mean nothing to you, its just a tool to trash the UN.

They obviously mean nothing to you. More children died In Africa today then will ever die because of the sanctions in Iraq. Why aren't you so concerned about them.

It's because you can't blame the US/Israel/Illuminati or aliens for it.

Why don't you come clean and just admit that you are anti-American?
 

peapod

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Blah! I will come clean, I am anti-bush government! Just like half of the american citizens living in the united states. Great people I hear them on talk back all the time... Next tool please!
 

Reverend Blair

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More children died In Africa today then will ever die because of the sanctions in Iraq. Why aren't you so concerned about them.

If you read all of the threads you would discover that not only are we concerned about them, but much of their plight has more than a little to do with US policies. Is that being anti-American? If so, too bad.
 

peapod

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Really crit, must I list plight of childern in most of the countries in the world? You tell me to get real, why don't you? We were talking about the un and the money for oil food program in Iraq. We were not talking about the childern in africa. But what do you do? What else? a riddle me this and riddle me that. Do you even really care?
You won't get any argument from me that the un has problems, I listen to the CBC and I know some of the very serious problems it has. So what would you have crit? nothing? If only half the food for oil got into Iraq, than that means some lives were saved. You being the christian that I have no doubt you are, well than even if one life was saved it would be worth it to you right?

I think even less than half ever got to the Iraq people, but lets hear your plan in place of the UN.
 

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There's no use asking questions, Peapod...He still hasn't answered the ones I asked earlier.

I think I'll repeat them though.

Two questions, Crit.

1) How many would have dies without Oil for Food?

2) The US, as well as the rest of the Security Council, had complete oversight over every single transaction in Oil for Food. Why didn't they do anything? Why are they now trying put all blame on the UN?
 

crit13

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1) How many would have dies without Oil for Food?

You're putting the cart before the horse. Saddam is a murderer yet you would gladly sit here 5,000 miles away and watch him kill millions of people. Shias, Kurds, Christians, Kuwaiti's, Iranians and even Sunnis that get in his way.

You seem to conveniently forget that he invaded Kuwait and took over the entire country.

But there's no use bringing this up because you're just going to claim that he had the US's blessing. We'll common sense would prove otherwise since it was the US that liberated Kuwait, not the UN.

The sanctions were put in place because the UN would not allow the US to go into Iraq and finish the job. They instead decided to settle on sanctions which the UN was supposed to manage. The only thing they managed was to divert money from Iraqis right into their pockets.

2) The US, as well as the rest of the Security Council, had complete oversight over every single transaction in Oil for Food. Why didn't they do anything? Why are they now trying put all blame on the UN?

The UN had complete oversight, the US had some influence. You're the first one to claim that the US is always trying to steal money from everyone. If they were overseeing the oil for food program, then how in the hell do you explain that almost all of the stolen money ended up in the hands of US critics. France, Russia and UN officials? I guess they we're trying to throw the rest of the world off by stealing money and putting it into the bank accounts of their enemies.

The illuminati and the aliens that control them are clever that way.
 

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The US had complete oversight. That is the way the program was set up. The US had no interest in exposing the corruption that everybody knew was there unless it had to do with weapons of mass destruction. Then Annan opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq and pointed out that Georgie was a war criminal and they decided to hang him.

Do the research. From the start.

I'm not putting the cart before the horse on asking how many people were saved by Oil for Food either. In your desperate attempt to point out that Saddam was killing people you forgot to mention that he was doing that when the US was his friend and that Droolin' Ronnie Rayguns actually protected him from the international community.
 

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if this story could saturate American media perhaps the tide would turn from the corporatization of Iraq to the feeding of its most vulnerable
 

Reverend Blair

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That's a pretty big "if" though, Pete. Reporting it means that people lose access at press political conferences so the only ones willing to take the chance are the ones who already lack that access...the alternative press.
 

peapod

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Wow! amazing how crtic can twist and riddle just to try and get some more greenbacks in his wallet. :lol: :lol:
If I am not mistaken a certain general who was at sadam doorstep in the first gulf war wanted to do just that....go into iraq and get him...mmmmmmmm I think it was george bush sr...that said no...cause it would not be right to interfer with another countries politics...uh huh.
 

crit13

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Wow! amazing how crtic can twist and riddle just to try and get some more greenbacks in his wallet.

I work hard for a living. What do you do?

If I am not mistaken a certain general who was at sadam doorstep in the first gulf war wanted to do just that....go into iraq and get him...mmmmmmmm I think it was george bush sr...that said no...cause it would not be right to interfer with another countries politics...uh huh.

You're not mistaken. The UN refused to give their authorization for Bush Sr to finish the job. That decision cost the lives of hundreds of thousands of Iraqis.

Nice job UN. You must be proud.
 

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Crit, it is no use.
They've dug in their heels, righteous in their indignation, sure they have seen the whole truth of the matter.

But let us watch closely their emotion.

If you think about it, most voters vote emotionally and look for all the rationales to serve that emotion.

We would like to think otherwise, but it would be lying to yourself if you believed the rationales and facts come first and then the opinion.

One matter stands out above all else.

The emotion.

The anti-american bias is so full of anger, indignation and virtually little emotion against the sins of any other country or leader.

Saddam or Milosovec just don't cause the high degree of indignation that Bush causes.

It's any irony that they will be more than happy to explain to you.