To my way of thinking only a brain dead dud could even consider rewarding taliban warriors, that he actually paid them money that in part came from servicemen that battled terrorists confirms trudoughs brain dead status.
Khadr to get 10.5 million payment for treason.
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Rex has always been sanctimonious without the intelligence.
You know when Walter emphatically agrees with you, you're pretty fukkin stupid.
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U.S. army medic who saved Khadr's life calls $10.5M settlement the 'smart path'
He'll never get the image out of his head.
In 2002, Donnie Bumanglag was a U.S. medic in Afghanistan. In the aftermath of a firefight, he saw a 15-year-old boy lying on a piece of wood. The boy was covered in rubble and had two bullet wounds in his chest.
That boy was Omar Khadr
Fast forward to this month, when Khadr was awarded $10.5 million and an official apology from Canadian government.
The settlement has been a divisive issue across the country. But Bumanglag spoke with As It Happens guest host Helen Mann about why story shouldn't be so black and white.
Here is part of their conversation:
I've been following this story from far, just because I was involved in it in a sense. For me, I feel like it was 15 years. You know, that's a long time. People change. A lot of things change. I'm not the same person I was 15 years ago, by any stretch of the imagination.
When he was passed over to me they told me that he was essentially a terrorist and he looked essentially like a child. I mean, it's the same person. I had to deal with it the way that my body perceived it and that was a child who is possibly a threat to me.
You were ordered to do your best to keep him alive, as I understand it. I'm just wondering, you'd also been told that he'd thrown a grenade that had killed Sgt. Christopher Speer and seriously wounded another Delta soldier. Were you, at the time, conflicted about keeping him alive?
I wasn't told personally who he had killed. I still don't know what the truth is, I think it lies somewhere in between. But I knew that it was a medic and Omar was a source of information that I was supposed to keep alive.
There was a lot of commotion going on between me and my team and getting him back onto the aircraft. It was very apparent that most people were uncomfortable taking off his flex cuffs.
You've indicated already that you saw him at the time as a kid. How much blame do you ascribe to his actions at the time?
I have a kid that's older than Omar now. I would never think to take him to the mountains, to a militia group and leave him there and expect that this isn't going to be the end result.
So I don't know. I'm not his family. I'm not his father. But I don't think he totally was given a fair shot. You've got to put yourself in those shoes. None of us know what we would have done.
Obviously, the Supreme Court made a decision that they felt that those rights were impinged or not upheld. Just the settlement alone is probably the smart path for Canadian taxpayers.
I know that there are a lot of things being said, that he is a terrorist, he's this or that. Like I said, I don't know where the truth lies. I'm a trained investigator. I understand forensics. I understand interrogation. The way that that stuff is being obtained would never be accepted by any other form of legal system in our country and it probably wouldn't be accepted by yours and so that's probably where things ended up the way they did.
Most of the people that I've seen that are out there on social media making opinions, you know, they don't have a say. They weren't there and if they would like to make those kind of decisions they should get themselves into the arena.
We were soldiers. His father took him to a place where he probably shouldn't have been. And somehow we all met on the other side of the world. And now we're here, picking up the pieces.
I mean, all of us are. I mean, this is war. I think that we should realize — together, all of us should realize — how ugly war is and really question why it is that we choose to do it.
Listen to our full interview with Donnie Bumanglag.
U.S. army medic who saved Omar Khadr's life calls $10.5M settlement the 'smart path' - Home | As It Happens | CBC Radio
He'll never get the image out of his head.
In 2002, Donnie Bumanglag was a U.S. medic in Afghanistan. In the aftermath of a firefight, he saw a 15-year-old boy lying on a piece of wood. The boy was covered in rubble and had two bullet wounds in his chest.
That boy was Omar Khadr
Fast forward to this month, when Khadr was awarded $10.5 million and an official apology from Canadian government.
The settlement has been a divisive issue across the country. But Bumanglag spoke with As It Happens guest host Helen Mann about why story shouldn't be so black and white.
Here is part of their conversation:
I've been following this story from far, just because I was involved in it in a sense. For me, I feel like it was 15 years. You know, that's a long time. People change. A lot of things change. I'm not the same person I was 15 years ago, by any stretch of the imagination.
When he was passed over to me they told me that he was essentially a terrorist and he looked essentially like a child. I mean, it's the same person. I had to deal with it the way that my body perceived it and that was a child who is possibly a threat to me.
You were ordered to do your best to keep him alive, as I understand it. I'm just wondering, you'd also been told that he'd thrown a grenade that had killed Sgt. Christopher Speer and seriously wounded another Delta soldier. Were you, at the time, conflicted about keeping him alive?
I wasn't told personally who he had killed. I still don't know what the truth is, I think it lies somewhere in between. But I knew that it was a medic and Omar was a source of information that I was supposed to keep alive.
There was a lot of commotion going on between me and my team and getting him back onto the aircraft. It was very apparent that most people were uncomfortable taking off his flex cuffs.
You've indicated already that you saw him at the time as a kid. How much blame do you ascribe to his actions at the time?
I have a kid that's older than Omar now. I would never think to take him to the mountains, to a militia group and leave him there and expect that this isn't going to be the end result.
So I don't know. I'm not his family. I'm not his father. But I don't think he totally was given a fair shot. You've got to put yourself in those shoes. None of us know what we would have done.
Obviously, the Supreme Court made a decision that they felt that those rights were impinged or not upheld. Just the settlement alone is probably the smart path for Canadian taxpayers.
I know that there are a lot of things being said, that he is a terrorist, he's this or that. Like I said, I don't know where the truth lies. I'm a trained investigator. I understand forensics. I understand interrogation. The way that that stuff is being obtained would never be accepted by any other form of legal system in our country and it probably wouldn't be accepted by yours and so that's probably where things ended up the way they did.
Most of the people that I've seen that are out there on social media making opinions, you know, they don't have a say. They weren't there and if they would like to make those kind of decisions they should get themselves into the arena.
We were soldiers. His father took him to a place where he probably shouldn't have been. And somehow we all met on the other side of the world. And now we're here, picking up the pieces.
I mean, all of us are. I mean, this is war. I think that we should realize — together, all of us should realize — how ugly war is and really question why it is that we choose to do it.
Listen to our full interview with Donnie Bumanglag.
U.S. army medic who saved Omar Khadr's life calls $10.5M settlement the 'smart path' - Home | As It Happens | CBC Radio
When he was passed over to me they told me that he was essentially a terrorist and he looked essentially like a child. I mean, it's the same person. I had to deal with it the way that my body perceived it and that was a child who is possibly a threat to me.
Hafta wonder about this duds character, a member of a terrorist nest kills one and seriously wounds another of his countrymen and he like our daft pm feel his terrorist clan should be rewarded. Kahdr clearly was no threat to this Bumanglag slug as his comrades in arms had neutralized the threat but paid a heavy price so bumanglad could feel safe. Child soldier not simply another young terrorist clan mercenary fortunate enough to call TO home and have our pm support his cause.
Hafta wonder about this duds character, a member of a terrorist nest kills one and seriously wounds another of his countrymen and he like our daft pm feel his terrorist clan should be rewarded. Kahdr clearly was no threat to this Bumanglag slug as his comrades in arms had neutralized the threat but paid a heavy price so bumanglad could feel safe. Child soldier not simply another young terrorist clan mercenary fortunate enough to call TO home and have our pm support his cause.
U.S. army medic has no regrets about saving Omar Khadr's life
Man this fella takes his oath seriously.. eh?
Maybe why I'm not a medic, I would have left his ass there as worm bait.
Man this fella takes his oath seriously.. eh?
Maybe why I'm not a medic, I would have left his ass there as worm bait.
Is there anything left to discuss on the Khadr incident? He was paid for his poor treatment in Guantanamo, not for what he did in Afghanistan. Time to put it to rest.
Totally agree, trudough has proven he is a few bricks short cutting a cheque for a terrorist clan claiming he had no choice as charter lawyers would prevail. If true the families of canadian hostages butchered by terrorists must be mortified, pay off a terrorist clan that butchers americans but let offshore canucks languish til terrorists decide how they wish to butcher them and not lift a charter finger.
Trudough sez paying ransom will only encourage more kidnaps so he becomes by default complicit in their slaughter, he obviously thinks terrorists are dumb and will not take note that canada pays their young home grown terrorists well. Any self respecting terror honcho would be a fool not to see canuckstan as prime recruiting land, that $10mil was far and away more attractive than a petty ransom. Don't pay to save canuck lives put pay to reward a home grown terrorist clan, wonder how much of the khadr millions will find its' way to taliban hands?
Anyway I'm in total agreement.. nuf said already trudough is daft.
Trudough sez paying ransom will only encourage more kidnaps so he becomes by default complicit in their slaughter, he obviously thinks terrorists are dumb and will not take note that canada pays their young home grown terrorists well. Any self respecting terror honcho would be a fool not to see canuckstan as prime recruiting land, that $10mil was far and away more attractive than a petty ransom. Don't pay to save canuck lives put pay to reward a home grown terrorist clan, wonder how much of the khadr millions will find its' way to taliban hands?
Anyway I'm in total agreement.. nuf said already trudough is daft.