Justin Trudeau's 'foolish' China remarks spark anger

FiveParadox

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This story is ridiculous.

Mr. Justin Trudeau M.P. (Papineau), the Leader of the Liberal Party, was clearly drawing attention to the dictatorial governance practices of the current Canadian prime minister. Efforts to play this off as praise for the People's Republic of China are a stretch, at best (if not simply disingenuous).

The public service -- including scientists and researchers -- have been utterly silenced. Ministers can speak few words about their own departments without the hand-holding of the Prime Minister's Office. Only approved questions can be asked of the prime minister and ministers by reporters. Canada has never before seen such tight control over the machinations of government from a single office, and the effectiveness of our democracy is tremendously weakened for it.
 

Zipperfish

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I love the accusation that Trudeau's words were "taken out of context".

Yes they were. But even in context, they reveal a lack of intellectual depth..

China is the filthiest advanced nation on earth, where smog kills and where generation of electricity by coal burning increases every year.

Not only does Trudeau make the mistake of expressing admiration for the regime that has killed more people than any other on earth, he makes that mistake in a context that is totally erroneous.

The man is an idiot.

Meh, if they're so bad, why do we trade so much with them? Why do we hire their plants to make our stuff? Why do we fly in their workers to replace ours? Why are we so desperate to ship our resources to them? Why so anxious to get pipelines in to ship oil to China?

I think the Liberals in government would be more democratic than the Conservatives. Not too worried about Canada turning into a communist dictatorship.
 

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Justin Trudeau's 'foolish' China remarks spark anger



Members of the Asian-Canadian community are demanding an apology from Liberal Leader Justin Trudeau, following his comments on Thursday expressing admiration for China's "basic dictatorship."


A round table of people from China, Taiwan, Tibet and Korea — all of whom say they suffered at the hands of China's dictatorship — said they were insulted by Trudeau's remarks, made on Thursday at a women's event.


The Liberal leader was asked which nation he admired most. He responded: "There's a level of admiration I actually have for China. Their basic dictatorship is actually allowing them to turn their economy around on a dime."


That statement was upsetting for people who say they were wrongly imprisoned or tortured by the Chinese government for speaking out for democracy.


"Can I use the word 'foolish'"? said one member of the Federation for a Democratic China, characterizing Trudeau's words. The political group advocates for the democratization of China.
'A bit silly'

"It seems to be that he's not well-informed," another member of the round table said of Trudeau.


Federal NDP Leader Thomas Mulcair also reacted with surprise to the Liberal leader's words, calling it "a bit silly" to laud China rather than to praise democratic values.


At a press conference on Saturday in Quebec, Trudeau said his comment was a reflection on a growing economy.


Canadian members of the Federation for a Democratic China say that along with an apology from the Liberal leader, they also want an opportunity to meet face-to-face so he can listen to some of their personal stories of persecution at the hands of the Chinese government.


source: Justin Trudeau's 'foolish' China remarks spark anger - Toronto - CBC News


Whoopdee do you say.. Well the apple does not fall far from the tree, he father had many photos taken with leaders of communist countries that tortured their citizens...


China is a country where people are still trying to escape from to Canada, The USA and so on.. their wages are low and they are repressed and jailed for little or no reason..

Idiots can do that! -:)
 

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I love the accusation that Trudeau's words were "taken out of context".

Yes they were. But even in context, they reveal a lack of intellectual depth..

China is the filthiest advanced nation on earth, where smog kills and where generation of electricity by coal burning increases every year.

Not only does Trudeau make the mistake of expressing admiration for the regime that has killed more people than any other on earth, he makes that mistake in a context that is totally erroneous.

The man is an idiot.

So what do you want? Do you want Trudeau to jump right in there and call the Chinese leaders criminals and murderers. That would do wonders for our trade balance.
 

JLM

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So what do you want? Do you want Trudeau to jump right in there and call the Chinese leaders criminals and murderers. That would do wonders for our trade balance.

Nah, better just to point out their nefarious tendencies in a tactful manner. -:)
 

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This story is ridiculous.

Mr. Justin Trudeau M.P. (Papineau), the Leader of the Liberal Party, was clearly drawing attention to the dictatorial governance practices of the current Canadian prime minister. Efforts to play this off as praise for the People's Republic of China are a stretch, at best (if not simply disingenuous).

The public service -- including scientists and researchers -- have been utterly silenced. Ministers can speak few words about their own departments without the hand-holding of the Prime Minister's Office. Only approved questions can be asked of the prime minister and ministers by reporters. Canada has never before seen such tight control over the machinations of government from a single office, and the effectiveness of our democracy is tremendously weakened for it.

lol!!

You ARE kidding, right??

Might I suggest you read up on Trudeau Sr?? Justin is simply carrying on a family tradition of tyrant adoration.
 

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and where generation of electricity by coal burning increases every year.

The Chinese, and also the Germans (who also have an expanding number of coal power stations) are obviously wiser than some other countries.
 

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This story is ridiculous.

Yes... And you can thank baby-T for getting the ole ball rolling.

Then again, I don't expect any kind of political savvyness from someone as diplomatically naive as JT... Former drama teacher and snowboard instructor.

He's simply imploding as we all knew he would


Mr. Shiny Pony M.P. (Papineau), the Leader of the Least Popular Party in Canada, was clearly drawing attention to the dictatorial governance practices of the current Canadian prime minister. Efforts to play this off as praise for the People's Republic of China are a stretch, at best (if not simply disingenuous).

Is this true?... Did Justine call you up and provide a heart-felt explanation?

(Those drama lessons sure can come in handy, eh?)

The public service -- including scientists and researchers -- have been utterly silenced.

Newsflash: Those people are 'EMPLOYEES' and aren't the decision-makers that are in the position to articulate the nature of their employer's work...

If they want that kind of capacity - get your own lab going, fund it and then you can talk about whatever you want

Ministers can speak few words about their own departments without the hand-holding of the Prime Minister's Office.

Reminds me of the Parliamentary vote on Kyoto under the Chretin regime... If I recall, there was only 1 'approved' response that all his members were threatened into providing

Canada has never before seen such tight control over the machinations of government from a single office, and the effectiveness of our democracy is tremendously weakened for it.

I wonder if Harper will invoke the War Measures Act as the ultimate expression of his power.

Nah, probably not, just leave that honor to PET as Canada's only dictator

He is also aromatic and fragrant but will always be shiny.

He's got dreamy hair.

What's your favorite virtue Loc?
 

Zipperfish

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Yes... And you can thank baby-T for getting the ole ball rolling.

Then again, I don't expect any kind of political savvyness from someone as diplomatically naive as JT... Former drama teacher and snowboard instructor.

He's simply imploding as we all knew he would

He might implode if he doesn't learn not to open his mouth until he's engaged his brain. But it won't be now. This is just a desperate swing by the conservatives embroiled in their own scandals. If intellectual capacity were really the issue, after all, it wouldn't explain the right's solid support for Rob Ford, who probably isn't that bright to start with and I doubt the booze and crack are helping matters much in they department.
 

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He might implode if he doesn't learn not to open his mouth until he's engaged his brain. But it won't be now. This is just a desperate swing by the conservatives embroiled in their own scandals. If intellectual capacity were really the issue, after all, it wouldn't explain the right's solid support for Rob Ford, who probably isn't that bright to start with and I doubt the booze and crack are helping matters much in they department.
Rob Ford isn't running for Prime Minister . It doesn't appear to be helping you in they department either . lol
 

captain morgan

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He might implode if he doesn't learn not to open his mouth until he's engaged his brain. But it won't be now. This is just a desperate swing by the conservatives embroiled in their own scandals. If intellectual capacity were really the issue, after all, it wouldn't explain the right's solid support for Rob Ford, who probably isn't that bright to start with and I doubt the booze and crack are helping matters much in they department.


It'll be interesting to see the nature of the attention that Justine will be getting as it relates to admitted drug-use. Regardless, in the meantime, Trudeau IS opening his mouth and stepping in a few big steaming piles in the process.

Seeing how the police are investigating Ford, I wonder if they will apply that same effort to JT?
 

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So what do you want? Do you want Trudeau to jump right in there and call the Chinese leaders criminals and murderers. That would do wonders for our trade balance.

Yes, well its always better to suck up and massage their ego.

No point in criticizing the economic masters after we openly sold our soul to them under another Liberal: Jean Chretien.