Joe Biden

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I canz facebook too


 

Avro52

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Well, Biden apologizes for being a wise guy.

That’s good.

I don’t remember hearing Trumps apology for telling four members of Congress to go back to their countries or for his remarks yesterday at Ford where he praised the good bloodlines of a known anti-semite?

Anyone know if he did?

Walt?
 

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Well, Biden apologizes for being a wise guy.
That’s good.
I don’t remember hearing Trumps apology for telling four members of Congress to go back to their countries or for his remarks yesterday at Ford where he praised the good bloodlines of a known anti-semite?
Anyone know if he did?
Walt?
Good for him , stand behind your words . We have enough mealy mouthed politicians already
 

Avro52

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Good for him , stand behind your words . We have enough mealy mouthed politicians already

Yeah, be proud of your racist and anti- Semitic beliefs.

He really could shoot someone in Times Square.
 

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Jon Stewart Made Fun Of Biden For Sniffing Girls

Fact is funnier than fiction.
 

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CNN issues a very weak argument to protect Biden

What Biden said was outrageous. But, some say, so was the reaction

He once called Barack Obama, "articulate, bright and clean." He boasted about his working relationship with segregationist senators.
Now Joe Biden has drawn fire for telling a black radio host that anyone wavering over whether to vote for him or President Trump "ain't black."
His comment Friday is the latest Biden blooper on race that has caused black and white critics to squirm.
Yet there are some who say that if anyone is offended by Biden's latest comments, they aren't paying attention to what Biden is really saying.

"It would be stupid for African-Americans to support Donald Trump after what the President has done even if you're an African-American Republican," says Ravi Perry, an activist, and chair of the the political science department at Howard University in Washington.

The context here is key

Perry says people outraged at Biden's comments ignore the context and an unwritten rule about racial remarks. A white person can't instruct black people on their racial identity. No pontificating about you can't be black if you like opera or anything like that.

They can, however, question the political identity and choices of a black person who votes for a President that spread a birther conspiracy theory about the nation's first black president, and said there were "very fine people on both sides" of a white nationalist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia, Perry says.
Biden's remarks were clumsy and off-putting but he had the right to ask that question, Perry says.
"His point is if you're voting for Trump in 2020 after all you've seen and heard, and you're a black person that certainly calls into question your black political identity," Perry says. "I agree with that wholeheartedly."
Trump has repeatedly attacked Obama, called Mexican immigrants "rapists," referred to African nations as "sh*thole countries," and dispatched a series of racist tweets telling four nonwhite Democratic congresswomen that they should "go back" to the "crime infested places" where they came from.


What Biden said

On Friday, though, the focus was on Biden's remarks. They came during an 18-minute interview with Charlamagne tha God on "The Breakfast Club," a radio show.
Near the end of the interview, Charlamagne told Biden that he had more questions when Biden replied:
"You've got more questions?" Biden replied. "Well I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you're for me or Trump, then you ain't black."

What happened next

Critics pounced.
Tim Scott of South Carolina, the lone black Republican in the Senate, criticized Biden, saying 1.3 million black Americans voted for Trump in 2016.
"I'd say I'm surprised, but it's sadly par for the course for Democrats to take the black community for granted and brow beat those that don't agree," he said.
The Trump campaign called the remarks "racist and dehumanizing."
"He truly believes that he, a 77-year-old white man, should dictate how Black people should behave," said Katrina Pierson, a senior adviser with the campaign, in a statement.
But others who were angered by Biden's comments focused more on the tone of his comments.
"There is no place for a white man to define blackness in America," said Hawk Newsome, chairman of Black Lives Matter in Greater New York."
Asked if he disagreed with the content of Biden's comments, Newsome replied:
"The tonality of Mr. Biden's statement was condescending and insensitive. If he would have stated differently, we wouldn't be having this conversation."

By the end of the day, Biden seemed to have received the message loud and clear. He should not have been "so cavalier," a chastened Biden said
"I was making the point that I never take the vote for granted and in fact, I know In order to win the presidency, I need the African American vote."

And then justify Biden's remarks with this

Perry says context can often be lost when social media zeroes in on the latest racial flashpoint, Perry says.
He says black people should not focus their outrage on Biden's remarks, but the prospect that Trump could win again.
This is the question Perry prefers to ask of any black voter considering voting for Trump:
"We have all the evidence in the world that he is not someone who has supported the interests of African-Americans, '' Perry says of Trump. "The evidence abounds everywhere."

"Why is that not enough for you?"

Pure Gold
 

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Biden turns his attention to shut down Alberta's economy in the of American interest

Kenney says Biden’s comments on Keystone XL ‘suggest he hasn’t been accurately briefed’

Joe Biden made more comments about the Keystone XL pipeline project on Friday and Alberta's premier was quick to fire back.
The presumptive Democratic nominee reiterated his promise to stop the project if he's elected U.S. president.
"I've been against Keystone from the beginning. It is tarsands that we don't need -- that in fact is very, very high pollutant," Biden said in an interview with CNBC.

Biden said he wouldn't want to stop all oil projects immediately, but vowed to transition the U.S. "gradually... to a clean economy."
He said Keystone "does not economically, nor, in my view, environmentally, make any sense."
At a news conference in Calgary, Alberta Premier Jason Kenney was asked about what Biden said.
"The comments made by [former U.S.] vice-president Biden suggest that he hasn't been well or accurately briefed on the dependence of the American economy on Canadian energy exports," Kenney said.
"It's a hugely important strategic development for the United States that North America is now energy independent -- no longer dependent on imports from OPEC dictatorships like Venezuela and Saudi Arabia."

Kenney also pointed out the impact the original Keystone pipeline has on American jobs.
"The Keystone pipeline began operating a decade ago," the premier said. "It delivers about 600,000 barrels a day of heavy Alberta crude to refineries primarily in the Midwest in Illinois.
"So, a whole lot of jobs and the economy in the American Midwest are dependent on that supply of energy through the Keystone pipeline."
"We would hope to have a chance to ensure Mr. Biden was aware of these facts and also aware that the building trades union, the construction unions, the steelworkers unions -- which are traditional supporters of Mr. Biden's party -- are strongly in favour of the Keystone XL pipeline expansion, which has already crossed the border, which is creating thousands of jobs on both sides of the border and which will ensure that the United States is no longer dependent on OPEC crude," Kenney said.
He also disputed Biden's claims that the pipeline is neither economically viable nor environmentally responsible.
"He said Keystone is not economically viable," Kenney said. "It has been operating for 10 years, profitably and successfully, both for the refineries, American consumers and Canadian producers.
"Keystone XL is obviously economically viable because the shippers have signed up for long-term contracts to ensure that and the refineries in the U.S. are desperate for the product."
"He also said that Keystone -- and I'm going to assume he meant here Keystone XL -- was not environmentally responsible," Kenney added.

READ MORE: New report raises no major objections to Keystone XL pipeline

"But, in fact, two reports conducted by the U.S. State Department, under the leadership of then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and President Barack Obama, concluded that Keystone XL would actually reduce CO2 emissions because shipping oil by pipeline means substantially lower emissions than the alternative, which is shipping it by rail."

READ MORE: Joe Biden vows to rip up Keystone XL pipeline approvals if elected U.S. president

Kenney said he looks forward to having the opportunity to make sure Biden is "aware of these facts."
"One way or another, the American economy needs this energy," he said.
"It will either get it from the socialist dictatorship and OPEC state Venezuela or from the American ally and democratic free-market economy of Alberta. And either it will be shipped from Alberta to U.S. refineries by rail with higher carbon emissions or safely by pipe with lower carbon emissions."
 

Avro52

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We can't one built in this country and we are whining about a maybe policy by a guy who isn't president. If Biden is as swampy as you all claim, big oil will get to him.

Or maybe they already have.
 

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We can't one built in this country and we are whining about a maybe policy by a guy who isn't president. If Biden is as swampy as you all claim, big oil will get to him.

Or maybe they already have.
You are welcome to build a refinery . What is stopping you ? You may get the necessary approvals in ten or so years , or not .
 

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What is Biden doing with Alberta being "oilsands we don't need"?

Protectig American oil producers?
 

Avro52

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With AOC and Sanders in his environmental committee (the buy off) I doubt it, more like Green industries got to him

Big oil has way more grease to get those levers working.

The green industry is weak and pathetic.