JFK: The Smoking Gun
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Pyroclastic density current type stuff. It happens.
Pyroclastic density current
A gravity-controlled, laterally moving mixture of pyroclasts and gas. It is a more general term that includes pyroclastic flow and pyroclastic surge Pyroclastic flows (incandescent flows of ash, gas, and coarse volcanic debris) and surges (hurricane-force blasts of turbulent hot gas and ash clouds) can race down slopes at speeds as great as 100 meters per second, travel 10 to 30 kilometers from the vent, and overtop hills and other topographic obstacles.
it is the first documentary that said the secret service tryed to return fire...and the only one that showed the agent fall backwards with the rifle waving around pointing toward the presidents car........
The more complex the Conspiracy Theory.. the more people involved.. the more obscure the motive.. (and the JFK conspiracy theories set records for all).. THEN..the more likely the whole conspiratorial construct is just a intersection of co-incidences.. and that the most obvious appearances.. ie. the Lone Gun Man.. is the correct one.
Yeah.. I know. I think Oswald did it alone, but the magic bullet
If I remember correctly, the bullet supposedly struck JFK in the right rear of his head, exited his throat, pierced Governor Conolly"s back, exited under his left nipple, broke his wrist, and was found on a gurney at Parkland Hospital. All from memory now, so forgive mistakes.
It is not the track of the bullet that amazes me.........in contact with bone and flesh of different densities, and perhaps tumbling, a bullet can go in any direction you can imagine.
But
Decades ago I saw an article that showed identical bullets from a 6.5 fired into bales of hay, long water traps, and goat carcasses........and all were in worse condition (deformation, weight loss) than the one picked up off the guerny.
Strange, to say the least.
My dad, at one point had a Manlicher Schoenauer 6.5. I think it was the same rifle...or very similar. As I recall, the slug was very long. I used it once on my last moose hunt. I was impressed with the amount of damage caused by that long, skinny bullet. My dad told me that those bullets were prone to wobbling so they sort of tore their way through a carcase and did a lot of damage.
But that was the whole point... a jacketed bullet would not have fractured, which is how the balistics people deduced that the bullet which exploded Kennedy's skull was not the same kind of bullet th (which was a full metal jacket) that went through his neck.... therefore it had to have come from a different gun.
I saw the documentary, and it all made sense except the part about how the killing shot from the CIA agents' car was an accidental missfire felt like a stretch.
Okay, possible, but really, what are the odds?
If it was friendly fire that delievered the kill shot, it would drive most people crazy to know the President probably would have survived from the first shot if not for the subsequent missfire.
I remember crying when JFK died. Now I simply don't give a sh it. JFK accomplished nothing before he was killed by a Communist.
I wouldn't say he accomplished nothing:
John F. Kennedy's Legacy y
John F. Kennedy’s Top 10 Accomplishments by Jessica McElrath
1. John F. Kennedy accomplished what no other American had done — he became the first Catholic president of the United States.
2. To this day, John F. Kennedy's call for Americans to serve their country has remained an inspiring and memorable appeal.
3. Among John F. Kennedy's most notable and long-standing accomplishments was the establishment of the Peace Corps, an organization that is now responsible for sending thousands of American volunteers around the world to help the needy.
4. It was John F. Kennedy's cautious and sensible approach to the standoff during the Cuban missile crisis that ultimately diverted a nuclear war with the Soviet Union and secured the removal of missiles from Cuba.
5. John F. Kennedy was committed to landing a man on the moon, and although it occurred after his death, it was his support of space exploration that helped make it happen.
6. John F. Kennedy's perseverance was instrumental in securing a limited nuclear test ban treaty with the Soviet Union.
7. It was John F. Kennedy's dedication that helped secure the passage of the Area Redevelopment Act, which assisted states that were suffering from high rates of unemployment.
8. Under John F. Kennedy's administration, laws were put in place to end segregation in interstate travel facilities.
9. John F. Kennedy helped promote the arts by holding concerts, plays, and musicals at the White House.
10. John F. Kennedy issued an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the sale or lease of housing that was financed by federally guaranteed loans or owned by the federa
John F. Kennedy's Legacy y
John F. Kennedy’s Top 10 Accomplishments by Jessica McElrath
1. John F. Kennedy accomplished what no other American had done — he became the first Catholic president of the United States.
2. To this day, John F. Kennedy's call for Americans to serve their country has remained an inspiring and memorable appeal.
3. Among John F. Kennedy's most notable and long-standing accomplishments was the establishment of the Peace Corps, an organization that is now responsible for sending thousands of American volunteers around the world to help the needy.
4. It was John F. Kennedy's cautious and sensible approach to the standoff during the Cuban missile crisis that ultimately diverted a nuclear war with the Soviet Union and secured the removal of missiles from Cuba.
5. John F. Kennedy was committed to landing a man on the moon, and although it occurred after his death, it was his support of space exploration that helped make it happen.
6. John F. Kennedy's perseverance was instrumental in securing a limited nuclear test ban treaty with the Soviet Union.
7. It was John F. Kennedy's dedication that helped secure the passage of the Area Redevelopment Act, which assisted states that were suffering from high rates of unemployment.
8. Under John F. Kennedy's administration, laws were put in place to end segregation in interstate travel facilities.
9. John F. Kennedy helped promote the arts by holding concerts, plays, and musicals at the White House.
10. John F. Kennedy issued an executive order prohibiting discrimination in the sale or lease of housing that was financed by federally guaranteed loans or owned by the federa
Recording of Lee Harvey Oswald's Landlord Reveals His Violent Childhood
Airdate: 11/21/2013
Long before he shot John F. Kennedy, Lee Harvey Oswald was a troubled teenager on the streets of New York City, who was no stranger to firearms.
A recently found tape recorded the voice of Philip Jacobs, a landlord who lived in this New York street back in the 1950s.
Jacobs said, "Lee Harvey Oswald. He got his experience in my building on how to use a BB gun."
One of his tenants was Marguerite Oswald, who was known for her explosive personality. She lived there with her 13-year-old son, Lee Harvey Oswald.
Soon after they moved in, the locals found themselves terrorized.
"The windows in our building were being peppered by BB shot. There were elderly ladies sitting in front on the sunny side of the building who were affected by it, and they were complaining that somebody was shooting BB shot at them," said Jacobs.
The sniper was the young Lee Harvey Oswald.
Oswald lived with his mother on East 179th street in the Bronx in New York City. On the sidewalks of the five-story brick apartment building, torn down years ago, windows were shattered and elderly people were hit with BB pellets fired by the teenager who would grow up to become the troubled assassin who killed President Kennedy.
“Lee Harvey Oswald had been given a BB gun as a present for Christmas. Having found out who did the shooting, we sort of took the situation in hand and it stopped," said Philip Jacobs.
Optometrist Alysha Jacobs, the granddaughter of Philip Jacobs, was just 11 years old when she recorded his memories for a social studies assignment in 1984.
She said, “In a million years, it’s so surreal that I would have any link to the shooting of JFK.”
Philip Jacobs died in 1985, but his long-lost words for a school project are shedding new light on the disturbing childhood of the man who shot JFK and started off by shooting a BB gun at innocent people in the Bronx.
Recording of Lee Harvey Oswald's Landlord Reveals His Violent Childhood - News from InsideEdition.com
