everything only exists in our imagination. jeezuz ain't no different. religion, philosophy and science are just forms of mental masturbation, so will all you guys stop jerkin' off cause you're clouding up my reality!
Jesus never existed.
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:-( My my, aren't you both in fine form today!!! Thought you said awhile back Cliff that you thought you were getting a tad carried away in your posts and should back off. Sir Joe - you are still walking to the beat of the same drummer. Good to see you both.:smile: Should be a couple more of "us" around here but one from BC sent me a name and I deleted the post in error. Another has just returned from holidays and said he was looking here too. I guess we'll just call it home week! Maybe some will hint so we know. Cliff you did what I wished I had done and then recognition would be easy. Very intense postings on here. Jesus doesn't need defending so I won't get into it.
Ah MHz, there are few people in my life who can simultaneously evoke the level of hope and despair in me that you do. I do not disdain the Bible, I would immediately agree that it's a magnificent document full of knowledge and wisdom, written by people with a deep and instinctive understanding of human psychology. My argument is only that it's not to be taken literally, that is not its significance, its purpose, or its meaning. It's about things that are universally true about human nature, across all cultures and times, it's about our needs and our failings, about how we find meaning and purpose. 1 Thessalonians 5:21: prove all things, hold fast that which is good. That is my mantra, the rule I live by, and I openly and unashamedly take it from the Bible. It's a good book, properly understood.
Neither does a christian. Besides, we don't have to be concerned about the threat of eternal damnation. Only non-believers or those who refuse to repent will be concerned with damnation. The rest of us will be living our eternal life. If we're wrong, we'll simply be buried and there will be nothing - neither heaven or hell. I've got something to look forward to until I either have heaven or no where - what do you have.
There is also the possibility that Jesus was not from this planet. I realize that the following link might be a fringe lunatic site to some but what is the possibility that he was from another world and come to Earth ? Is it that hard for man to accept someone from another planet ?
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A question: Out of the hundreds of religions and different denominations, as well as the thousands of religions that are no longer practiced, how can you possibly believe that yours is the true path?
As there's no evidence that any of them are real, and you're basing your decisions on faith alone, what criteria are you using to make that faith-based decision?
I've got something to look forward to until I either have heaven or no where - what do you have.
IslandSpecific,
Ah, but I am not an atheist, number one. Number two I believe that the spirit is eternal. Three, that heaven and hell are right here on Earth and I don't have to wait for heaven, I live in it.
As for me toning it down, all I can say is that maybe I'm male menopausal but sometimes people are so thick that sometimes you need a bigger stick.
IslandSpecific,
Ah, but I am not an atheist, number one. Number two I believe that the spirit is eternal. Three, that heaven and hell are right here on Earth and I don't have to wait for heaven, I live in it.
As for me toning it down, all I can say is that maybe I'm male menopausal but sometimes people are so thick that sometimes you need a bigger stick.
By ‘the one from BC’, I assume you mean BCPC, he is masquerading here as SirFrances2004, I did mention it in another thread.
I thought of signing on here as SirRupertMargartroyd, but I thought it would be fun to sign on under another pretentious name. The fact that SirJosephPorter (in HMS Pinafore) was a total buffoon adds further to the irony. Besides, I am not sure if they permit such long winded names in this forum.
Anyway, once they get Canada.com forum fixed (assuming they do get it fixed), I am not sure how many of us will return to it, Cliffy has already said he likes this forum better.
I wonder why the link was removed. Moderator, any explanation?
Anyway SirFrancis2004, the theory that Jesus was from another planet is not any more far fetched than the theory that Jesus was the Messiah, the Son of God (and is probably more plausible).
You call it irony, I would call it poetic justice as that shoe seems to fit you quite nicely Cinderella. On the length of the name, it would be a blessing if your name was longer than your posts.
Maybe that is the answer right there, God has to be real because nobody could have gotten everything that has ever occurred in our (relatively) short history wrong so consistently. Just kidding, when you are God you don't need to leave a bunch of artifacts laying around to show that you have passed this way once.
Out of those 100's how many claim that they are going to do a return engagement?
properly understood.
Obviously, properly understood is subjective as there are so many ways to "properly understand" anything, religion, philosophy, bowling. There is no right or wrong way to view anything, just your way, because in the end we are all different and have different points of view (unless you have given up your point of view to accept someone else's).
Obviously, properly understood is subjective as there are so many ways to "properly understand" anything, religion, philosophy, bowling. There is no right or wrong way to view anything, just your way, because in the end we are all different and have different points of view (unless you have given up your point of view to accept someone else's).
This was pertaining to just the Bible.
Well in this case there is only one view, doesn't matter who reads it if it doesn't come to one single conclusion then somebody is going to have a adjust their view. That doesn't just apply to those who do not believe in Jesus, it applies (maybe even more so) to those who say they do but have an incorrect view on what the Scriptures actually say.
Well in this case there is only one view, doesn't matter who reads it if it doesn't come to one single conclusion then somebody is going to have a adjust their view.
MHz,
That is your point of view. You don't get it. Your interpretation of scripture si your interpretation. Just because someone believes differently, does not make them wrong. It would take a colossal ego to think their view is the only correct one.
I have studied the bible from many points of view and i have studied its origins, its history and I have come to the conclusion that it is a work of fiction based on tales from many ancient societies. You came to your own conclusions based on your predisposition that the bible is the word of god. If you want to believe that it is your right. But if your are going to say that anybody who does not agree with your point of view is wrong, then I'm going to say you have your head stuck where the sun don't shine.
MHz,
That is your point of view. You don't get it. Your interpretation of scripture si your interpretation. Just because someone believes differently, does not make them wrong. It would take a colossal ego to think their view is the only correct one.
I have studied the bible from many points of view and i have studied its origins, its history and I have come to the conclusion that it is a work of fiction based on tales from many ancient societies. You came to your own conclusions based on your predisposition that the bible is the word of god. If you want to believe that it is your right. But if your are going to say that anybody who does not agree with your point of view is wrong, then I'm going to say you have your head stuck where the sun don't shine.
Well its a matter of opinion.. I also like this Forum and may not return to the other. Fact is with all the changes at the other site and all the problems we have seen, I don't really know if its really worth a return..
As to the name change, I only thought it appropriate as well due to length. I could go into details on the formation of its source but I am not SirJosephPorter.... ha ha ha
Just a friendly jab there SirJosephPorter.. I would never say you are long winded as its just not like me to tease you.. :razz:
Isn't that the issue in the first place ?
So many have gone, yet no one has returned to tell what the after world is like ?
Also we are left to blind "faith", "belief" and "trust" when all we have known on this planet are "lies", "deceit" and "distrust" as we are asked to repent all the time as the Church "assumes" we always do wrong..
My God is a loving God, not a hateful one..
Good Question Sir, but I am not about to question why the link is gone.. It is what it is..
That said, the fact remains that as described anyone looking advanced in nature, would of course have been a God to those in that period. Hence Jesus coming from Space could well be plausible.
Does that mean I do not believe in God, by far not, but does it mean I must believe in the sense the Church wants me to look at him in their interpretation? No way..
How many versions of the Bible are there ?
Which one is the correct one ?
Are all the incorrect versions of those who follow those bibles joining Vinny is Hell ? ( op's wrong thread ).. he he he :lol:
Well Cliffy there is nothing I can show you that would prove that my version is the correct (I could lead you step by step to how I came to have an opinion on any certain matter)one and I'm quite willing to alter my current view provided you can show me some Scripture that 'determines' some event will happen in a different way that what I would promote at this time. There is an exhaustive list of doctrines out there.
Ego or no ego it could just be a matter of study time, it would stand to reason that (most of the time) that would be a factor. I don't believe that can be applied to the Bible (rigidly) but there is only one version of the truth, there is only one doctrine, so right there you are in error there are not many different truths there is one.
You believe it is fiction, I believe it to be full of truth. There is no possibility that we can both be right. That you came to the conclusion you did also means you missed getting what it says right. That part can be proven by just listening to you spout-off on the things that you believe are false. Scripture will show that you missed something or you just didn't pay close enough attention to what you read.
That is not coming from my ego, it has to do with your studies alone.
If the two of you had just used "Sirrup" and "BCProud" there would not have been any problem with the length of the names
. Goodness - at least I chose something that should have been a dead give away anyway. Alright Iggy - reveal yourself!!!! ;-)