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[spaminator]

Sask. woman accused of murdering five-year-old son
Lisa Mrazek, QMI Agency
First posted: Monday, January 06, 2014 10:47 AM EST | Updated: Monday, January 06, 2014 07:46 PM EST
REGINA — The mother of a five-year-old Saskatoon boy found dead in his home on the weekend has been charged with murder.
Police received a 911 call from a Saskatoon home early Saturday morning saying a child was injured.
Jonathan Vetter was pronounced dead at the scene.
Police said Kellie Johnson, 35, charged with first-degree murder, is to return to court Tuesday.
Neighbour Linda Tinkler, whose daughter used to play with Jonathan, said the close-knit block is still "kind of in shock" at the news.
"It's been really quite horrible," she said Monday. "You just feel that nothing is ever going to be the same again — I know it won't be. You're always going to have that little piece missing. It was something that I can't imagine, I cannot even begin to imagine what the family is going through."
She said Jonathan was a shy little boy, but there was nothing about the family that would have suggested the violent end police have concluded in their investigation.
"There are always those houses or those blocks where, when something happens, everybody goes, 'I knew something would happen there eventually,' but this was not one of those places."
Police have not said how the boy died, but said autopsy results may be available as early as Tuesday.
Saskatoon murder suspect Kellie Johnson. (Facebook)

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[petros]

When was he found guilty of that in court? Or is it just in selective newspapers?

another OJ

 

[Sal]

so police are all shaken up and they aren't revealing anything right now about how Jonathan died...I just don't even want to imagine what she may have done to that kid.

and I really don't believe the neighbour that there were no indications, maybe there weren't but murder does not come out of a vacuum unless it is postpartum psychosis. if she said there were indications she is legally culpable so everyone is going to say she was a good mum (as far as they saw)

 

[petros]

She's has a long history of being loopy.

 

[Sal]

She's has a long history of being loopy.

and they left the kid under her care...interesting...I wonder if she gets social assistance...I wonder if the home was checked...Johnathan was a quiet child...yeah, I'll just bet he was.

 

[petros]

They? They who?

 

[Sal]

They? They who?

well there were 2 other people in the house for starters...if she was on social assistance she has a 'worker' and there were neighbours...so there are lots of theys

if he was in kindergarten there are teachers, there are educational assistants...

everyone who suspected is a they...it is illegal not to report a suspicion

lots of theys.

 

[karrie]

So far I've read 'looks like it was drug related', and 'she has a history of being loopy'. Those sorts of comments will continue, and the Crown won't ever make a first degree charge stick. People really prefer to lock child killing moms up in loony bins rather than prisons.

well there were 2 other people in the house for starters...if she was on social assistance she has a 'worker' and there were neighbours...so there are lots of theys

if he was in kindergarten there are teachers, there are educational assistants...

everyone who suspected is a they...it is illegal not to report a suspicion

lots of theys.

I know enough social workers to know that reported suspicions rarely see children removed, and even flat out abuse doesn't as often as it should.

 

[petros]

well there were 2 other people in the house for starters...if she was on social assistance she has a 'worker' and there were neighbours...so there are lots of theys

if he was in kindergarten there are teachers, there are educational assistants...

everyone who suspected is a they...it is illegal not to report a suspicion

lots of theys.

It doesn't work that way.

 

[Sal]

So far I've read 'looks like it was drug related', and 'she has a history of being loopy'. Those sorts of comments will continue, and the Crown won't ever make a first degree charge stick. People really prefer to lock child killing moms up in loony bins rather than prisons.




I know enough social workers to know that reported suspicions rarely see children removed, and even flat out abuse doesn't as often as it should.

It doesn't work that way.

I know, but it should. It just makes me feel bad when you see little ones trying to climb mountains that an adult couldn't climb. This poor kid likely had five years of living hell. And he fell through the cracks.

 

[JLM]

It doesn't work that way.

Yep, there's always scads of people who don't want to get involved.

 

[karrie]

I know, but it should.

No. It shouldn't. I know these are the stories that stick in our heads, but for every kid who falls through the cracks, more kids stay with families that were wrongly reported, or who just needed a little assistance to get their act together. Trust me.

 

[petros]

I know, but it should. It just makes me feel bad when you see little ones trying to climb mountains that an adult couldn't climb. This poor kid likely had five years of living hell. And he fell through the cracks.

What can a financial aid worker at SS do? Cut off her direct deposit?

 

[petros]

No. It shouldn't. I know these are the stories that stick in our heads, but for every kid who falls through the cracks, more kids stay with families that were wrongly reported, or who just needed a little assistance to get their act together. Trust me.

Add in those who use CPS to seek revenge.

 

[Sal]

No. It shouldn't. I know these are the stories that stick in our heads, but for every kid who falls through the cracks, more kids stay with families that were wrongly reported, or who just needed a little assistance to get their act together. Trust me.

wrongly reported isn't the end of the world, no one dies...if I was wrongly reported I would be glad someone at least checked.

 

[petros]

And while chasing a false report some kid who needs real help doesn't get because of no resources.

 

[Sal]

And while chasing a false report some kid who needs real help doesn't,t get because of no resources.

how many kids are caught so they don't fall through the cracks...how does one assess a false report without checking it out...if you see bruises all over a neighbours kid and it's repeated are you going to ignore it...no

I know someone who got reported, schools have to do it...or kids die, or do fall through cracks...if you come into the office and tell me daddy choked you, I'm reporting you...if you are sitting in my office bruised and frequently disruptive in class you are gonna be on the radar...and you should be even if it's only rough play at home...I would be watching

 

[karrie]

wrongly reported isn't the end of the world, no one dies...if I was wrongly reported I would be glad someone at least checked.

But the only way to be SURE, would be to take the kid away Sal.

 

[petros]

If you see bruises you call the cops.

 

[karrie]

how many kids are caught so they don't fall through the cracks...how does one assess a false report without checking it out

Exactly, the system catches tons.


It's not necessarily 'the system's fault, or the neighbours' fault. The only person we know is at fault is whoever murdered the child (happy TBone?).