Jeb Bush

EagleSmack

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I doubt Jeb will run. If he does he won't win. GW was very polarizing and I would think Jeb would be the same. I bet the liberals and Democrats would want him to win though. They are aching to turn the gavel of power over to the GOP already. They make better whinners than leaders and they know it.
 
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Curiosity

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I like Jeb Bush but he has never been in a position to affect my life as it exists in this nation. Still I see a lot of his mother in him.

Now there's the Bush who should have been made President (gasp together now)..... Barbara Bush has always worn the pants in her family and has brought her kids up to do well for themselves, along with managing
George's political hop-scotch life - a sincere and good man but his wife would have been far more powerful - perhaps hated more - but fair and just.

I am writing only as an observer - wasn't a citizen during that time but I found her to be one of those
women who create strength in the family unit by passing on good credible values which can be met and
practiced, and giving each of the kids an ability to see their mistakes and own them - kept them humble - even George.

If she can't be president, she has my vote for most outstanding mother of any year.
 

Bar Sinister

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I doubt Jeb will run. If he does he won't win. GW was very polarizing and I would think Jeb would be the same. I bet the liberals and Democrats would want him to win though. They are aching to turn the gavel of power over to the GOP already. They make better whinners than leaders and they know it.


You are probably right. Having to drag George W's legacy behind him would be like trying to pull a Greyhound bus while running a steeplechase.
 

talloola

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and why on earth should the public electorate have to stay bound to one family for their
leader. It is being 'stuck' in a 'rut'. Turn and look around, see beyond the bushs, move
ahead in the world, how many people have been born and grown since they lead the country,
give someone else a chance please.

The younger generations are seeing this world with wide open eyes, they are seeing how destructive
the earlier leaders/parties have been, so lets give them the chance to improve the world with
their younger, smarter and more progressive ways, then perhaps we all can have a chance to live
in peace.

Obama is a good example of this intelligent, calm, broad minded leader, who doesn't
bare his fangs every time another leader makes a comment concerning the u.s.

There will be many young smart leaders coming behind him to make this world a better
place, and stop all of the fist pumping and aggression we have seen in the past,
people who will set an example of how to better lead, than ever before.
 

commonsense

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In the eyes of George Sr., Jeb Bush is his very own Teddie Kennedy, so it's in the works.

He is going to be the appointed Messiah.
 

Curiosity

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In the strange world of political families.....

...no doubt Jeb feels he could overcome the "debt" George Jr. left on the Bush legacy - I believe Jeb
would make a sincere president - quite the opposite of the current incumbent - however I wonder if he
has enough charisma to attract a following even though I think a sincere, quiet kinda guy might be a
better choice these days.

I've seen enough of the show boaters who spend money like a hooker on a slow day.
 

ironsides

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You are probably right. Having to drag George W's legacy behind him would be like trying to pull a Greyhound bus while running a steeplechase.
Notice he stayed out of Texas politics and for the most part and out of national politics till 2004. He is the smart son, lives in Florida.
 

commonsense

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Jeb Bush: 3 Days, 4 Different Answers About Iraq










--IT ALL STARTED WITH ONE QUESTION posed by Fox News' Megyn Kelly: "Knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion" of Iraq in 2003? And over the last few days, Jeb Bush, who is not yet an official presidential candidate, has struggled to grab hold of one answer. Here's a look back:




1. YES. "I would have and so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody, and so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got." --Jeb Bush on Fox News' "The Kelly File" (aired Monday, May 11)


2. I DON'T KNOW. "I interpreted the question wrong, I guess. I was talking about, given what people knew then, would you have done it ... knowing what we know now, clearly there were mistakes as it related to faulty intelligence in the lead-up to the war and the focus on security ... the simple fact is, in the last few years of my brother's presidency, the surge was quite effective to bring security and stability to Iraq, which was missing in the early days ... that security has been totally obliterated by [this] president's pulling out too early, and now these voids are filled by this barbaric, asymmetric threat ... I don't know what that decision would have been. That's a hypothetical." --Jeb Bush on The Sean Hannity radio show (Tuesday, May 12)


3. I WON'T SAY BECAUSE TALKING ABOUT IT DOES A DISSERVICE TO THOSE WHO SERVED. "The problem with hypotheticals is two-fold. One, when I was governor I got to -- I felt it a duty, I didn't have to -- to call all the family members of people who lost their lives and I don't remember the total number but it was easily over 100. And I felt it a duty to do that because I admired the sacrifice of their families. And I admired the men and women -- mostly men -- that made the ultimate sacrifice. So, going back in time and talking about hypotheticals -- what would have happened what could have happened, I think, does a disservice for them." --Jeb Bush at a town hall meeting in Reno, Nevada (Wednesday, May 13) http://abcn.ws/1IBKjWr




4. PROBABLY NOT. "Talking about the future is more than fair. Talking about the past and saying, how would you have done something after the fact is a little tougher. ... Of course, given the power of looking back and having that -- of course anybody would have made different decisions. There's no denying that. But to delve into that and not focus on the future is where I need to draw the line." --Jeb Bush in a gaggle with reporters after a town hall meeting in Reno, Nevada (Wednesday, May 13) http://abcn.ws/1IBKjWr




ABC's RICK KLEIN: Jeb Bush's explanations for whether he would have authorized the Iraq War have now consumed most of the week. And they are now virtually guaranteed to linger deep into the campaign, far beyond the current period where his rivals see political benefit in piling on. His latest answer to the if-we-knew-then-what-we-know-now question -- or among his latest -- is perhaps the least tenable: that if we "get into hypotheticals I think it does a disservice for a lot of people that sacrificed." To state the obvious, all that presidential candidates really do is answer one big hypothetical, based on the presumption that they would be president. For Jeb Bush, there's another layer of hypotheticals: He's not even formally a candidate for office, so answering anything is based on the hypothetical of him possibly running. (That hypothetical has legal and campaign-finance implications.) Bush is also presuming that veterans and the families of those who lost their lives automatically presume that the war was worth the cost, or think a debate would automatically question their courage or patriotism. What it's done is that Jeb Bush suddenly has many in his own party worried that he's rusty, and that he hasn't thought through the implications of running for a third Bush presidency, in terms of broad perceptions as well as policies. He has also guaranteed that Iraq will be a recurring issue in the campaign -- even if the Democratic nominee is the only presidential candidate who actually voted for the war.




http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/note...s-iraq/story?id=31037863#.VVSw2y3oTgU.twitter
 

talloola

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Two familys have dominated politics for 30 years. You're right. Why not shoot for 36 or 40 years?

with over 300 million in the u.s. haven't they got enough vision to look around and get away from the
bushes and the clintons, it is a bit insane, but yeah, i'm sure there are grandchildren they are
grooming for later dates, jeesh, its crazy.

are people so stupid there, that they are drawn to familiar names, and can't take a good look at others.

but, then there is trudeau, hmmmm, wonder if there is a little harper somewhere studying speech making
and political jabber.

i now look at all of it with a sarcastic smile, just a joke.
 

EagleSmack

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with over 300 million in the u.s. haven't they got enough vision to look around and get away from the
bushes and the clintons, it is a bit insane, but yeah, i'm sure there are grandchildren they are
grooming for later dates, jeesh, its crazy.

are people so stupid there, that they are drawn to familiar names, and can't take a good look at others.

but, then there is trudeau, hmmmm, wonder if there is a little harper somewhere studying speech making
and political jabber.

i now look at all of it with a sarcastic smile, just a joke.


I am thinking the same thing.


I do not think Jeb will get the GOP nod... Hillary is just waiting for the coronation.
 

Ludlow

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with over 300 million in the u.s. haven't they got enough vision to look around and get away from the
bushes and the clintons, it is a bit insane, but yeah, i'm sure there are grandchildren they are
grooming for later dates, jeesh, its crazy.

are people so stupid there, that they are drawn to familiar names, and can't take a good look at others.

but, then there is trudeau, hmmmm, wonder if there is a little harper somewhere studying speech making
and political jabber.

i now look at all of it with a sarcastic smile, just a joke.
yeah we're a little on the stupid side I guess. All that mary Joo wanna I think.