It's Time to Upgrade Free Speech to Fair Speech
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Here's your ass handed back to you, quite effortlessly:
The number of hate groups in the United States has ticked up since the 2016 presidential campaign began, according to classifications of groups from the Southern Poverty Law Center, an Alabama-based nonprofit activist group that tracks civil rights and hate crimes.
Meanwhile, the number anti-Muslim groups skyrocketed and other types of white nationalist, neo-Nazi and neo-Confederate groups reversed their pattern of decline to tick upward.
By the numbers: 7 charts that explain hate groups in the United States - CNNPolitics
Now please, continue to bring those Nazi faces to my axe.
I think you're confused about politics. Democracy isn't about electing people to positions of power?
The spirit of democracy is a confluence of different parts of society working toward a common goal.
There are majority governments that have actually gone against their own platform for the greater good and remain in power.
There are majority governments that have actually gone against their own platform for the greater good and remain in power.
According to that same group you are citing the US once had eleven million KKK members. It's now something on the order of about 7,000. There's maybe a dozen little nazi groups, the biggest of which is a few hundred members. These people could not even half fill a hockey stadium. So you can stop crying yourself to sleep.
I'm not willing to take the word of the Southern Poverty Law center on that. These are the same people who have branded even reformist Muslims as "Islamophobes".
We are not talking about a dozen little Nazi groups.
Nazism and the KKK are just two forms of white supremacy.
Any rally that promotes racial discrimination should be considered to be under the chopping block.
Next.
Heck, yeah! You got two, two-and-a-half feet of solid oak between you and the axe!
You are, apparently, not aware of how recent elections in the US have turned out. Why am I not surprised? You seem incapable of taking what you propose and understanding how it would be applied in the world today.
Meh, it's an old tactic. When you're proven wrong, start talking about the "spirit" of the philosophy or rule.
Kinda like: "He murdered that kid by running over him!"
"The kid darted out from between two parked cars. It was clearly an accident. Murder is premeditated with malice."
"Well, the spirit of the murder laws. . ."
This has got to be one of the stupidest comments I've read here - and I've read so very many stupid comments here..
Jews have defended the Nazis holding rallies because they know that the only protection they have is a freedom which cannot be restricted based on other people's ideological beliefs. People like you want to ban 'Nazis and white supremacists and 'white nationalists' from holding rallies, but you define them and other similar 'enemies of the state' according to your own ideological beliefs. Ben Shapiro gets harassed by Nazis and White supremacists more than almost anyone else, but people like you riot when he comes to speak, calling him a nazi and white supremacist because he doesn't believe in the same ideological constructs as you do. Those words you throw around are becoming as meaningless as 'racist' which you also like to throw around at your perceived enemies.
For myself, I think the Nazis and white nationalists are far, far less of a threat to a civilized, open and free society than people like you.
In my opinion, no one promotes discrimination and division as much as a zealous progressive stormtrooper who identifies everyone's rights and freedoms and privileges according to what identity group they belong to. How can you not be promoting racial discrimination when you hold different races to different standards, and want to actively and by law discriminate against one race in favor of another?
The lawyer who argued for the Nazis in the landmark free-speech case Skokie v. National Socialist Party of America was Jewish.
Well that's obviously an elaborate, nonsensical fabrication in your own mind, so I'll just leave you to your free (but wrongful) thought.
You know, I never really considered the etymology - just heard it as regular parlance on the news.
But thank you for bringing that to my attention.
OMG you are so phuicking obtuse.
It was not the election of Trump, it was idiots like you engaging in rioting, street violence, accusations of "hate speech" towards anyone slightly to the right of Che Guevara, and the shutting down of free speech on college campuses and elsewhere by political violence and spineless and/or anti-freedom bureaucrats.
It is not free speech that gains the far right sympathy, it is the attempt of idiots like yourself to deny them their rights.
If the left would just stop their violent and restrictive anti-liberty campaign, we would hear your arguments. Street violence and the attempt to destroy the free exchange of ideas simply alienates sensible people. With polarization it becomes "It's a fight! Pick a side!" and shockingly, your side is actually much more dangerous to liberty than the right.
I bet he's handy with the fire wood.
Ah, I see now.
Yep.
My grammar could be gooder.
No, the resurgence really picked up with Trump - loth as a Nazi like you would be to admit.
No, the 'far right' is always the side that has the white supremacists mingled with them as their figureheads. But I'm not surprised you would ignore such an obvious pattern.
Maybe you should denounce those people from your group instead of bending over and letting them hijack your 'libertarian values'? (libertarian values, lol)
Yea, go start another Iraq war and then get back to me on that.
Sorry Colpy but you don't have numbers, reason or morality on your side on this one.
A nazi
is a nazi
is a nazi.
And if you think that using Germany as an example actually supports your libertarian argument, then you haven't been there for the last 50 years. They have banned swastikas and other discriminatory symbols, for example, and they have been one of the most peaceful, open, democratic and economically vibrant nations on the planet.
And that isn't changing any time soon, as they've clearly reinforced those values in the last election.
Yep.
My grammar could be gooder.
No, the resurgence really picked up with Trump - loth as a Nazi like you would be to admit.
No, the 'far right' is always the side that has the white supremacists mingled with them as their figureheads. But I'm not surprised you would ignore such an obvious pattern.
Maybe you should denounce those people from your group instead of bending over and letting them hijack your 'libertarian values'? (libertarian values, lol)
Yea, go start another Iraq war and then get back to me on that.
Sorry Colpy but you don't have numbers, reason or morality on your side on this one.
A nazi
is a nazi
is a nazi.
And if you think that using Germany as an example actually supports your libertarian argument, then you haven't been there for the last 50 years. They have banned swastikas and other discriminatory symbols, for example, and they have been one of the most peaceful, open, democratic and economically vibrant nations on the planet.
And that isn't changing any time soon, as they've clearly reinforced those values in the last election.
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You are simply a troll.
Your post is complete nonsense.
What does the Iraq War have to do with Nazis (well, aside from the fact the Ba'athist Party was a essentially a Nazi Party, combining tyranny, murder, political violence, in the name of socialism and nationalism)
You think Trump is a Nazi? LOL. Trump is an idiot, a loud mouth twit, but he is a long, long way from being a Nazi.
And I have certainly never said the white supremists were right, just that they have the same right to speak as you.
BTW, would you shut down Islamist mosques and punch radical imams?
Islamists and Nazis are very much the same, only the Nazis treat women better.
All I see is a whole bunch of my comments taken out of context (yet again).
Is there a second guy in there that just shouts a whole bunch of extra shit in your head that wasn't there to begin with?
Because you really have to extrapolate quite a bit to come up with such a confluence of talking points + bullshit.
*sigh*
If I must...
Empty words.
Scroll up. Read. Understand context.
His false equivocation of counterprotesters with white nationalists was good enough to put him in Nazi territory.
Just like...
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