It’s time Cheney steps down

[I think not]

Re: RE: It’s time Cheney step

There's a difference between refusing to partake in an illegal war and actually arresting those responsible for that war, ITN.

Compare it gangsterism, since that's how the US operates. Everybody in a neighbourhood may know that the gangster is a bad person. They may even know details. They may have refused to participate in crimes that the gangster would have paid them to participate in, possibly even punished them in a minor way for their refusal.

When it comes time to testify against the gangster they all suddenly become unwilling to cooperate though.

OK, the US is a gangster. You still haven't answered the question why The Hague wouldn't issue an arrest warrant for say.... Albania? Macedonia? Latvia? Lithuania? They are all complicit and hardly gangsters.

 

[peapod]

thats because of "fear" rev, the product of all bullies. There will be those that will come forward in spite of that fear...its what they call "courage". All their awe and shock, shake and bake, hearts and minds jingo, can't hold a candle to it.

Filthy bastards! they showed themselves for exactly what they are, a dumb bitch who has no idea of war, can attack a man, who is a decorated war hero because he speaks out. Swines at the trough....

Sidenote....Would anyone around here be handy? I would like my own soapbox to stand on when I post. Could you please make it out of cedar, I love da smell of cedar, calms me down. Course I really hate that cedar itch. :?

 

[I think not]

Interesting conversation here!

Why don't they arrest Bush, etc?
- because there are some serious connections between all the people in power. Similiar kinds of supporters, ties to businesses, and loyalty to certain organisations.

It is those organisations that are giving the direction to government leaders, legal bodies, etc. They are saying "shut the hell up about Presidential and Vice-Pres. lies, crimes, etc."

Anyone doing the arresting of an American president would be betraying some of those loyalties.

None of the loyalties are to voters - we are at the very bottom of the power and control, of the direction-giving.

Just who would write up a warrant for a national leader? They might never be seen again....
ITN - consider why so many criminal leaders of nations stay in power - like Africa's many criminals in power.... loyalties, FEAR, etc. Same crap goes on in the USA, and Canada no doubt.

All that aside, I am hoping a Canadian will get up the courage to do it, but it will be a tricky deal to do.

Who would write up a warrant for a national leader? That's a good question. I would imagine The International Criminal Court, and even if they issued a warrant, who would execute the warrant? Who will go knocking on the respectives leader door and say, you are under arrest blah blah blah and expect that leader to walk away in handcuffs?

 

[Reverend Blair]

Interesting conversation here!

Why don't they arrest Bush, etc?
- because there are some serious connections between all the people in power. Similiar kinds of supporters, ties to businesses, and loyalty to certain organisations.

It is those organisations that are giving the direction to government leaders, legal bodies, etc. They are saying "shut the hell up about Presidential and Vice-Pres. lies, crimes, etc."

Anyone doing the arresting of an American president would be betraying some of those loyalties.

None of the loyalties are to voters - we are at the very bottom of the power and control, of the direction-giving.

Just who would write up a warrant for a national leader? They might never be seen again....
ITN - consider why so many criminal leaders of nations stay in power - like Africa's many criminals in power.... loyalties, FEAR, etc. Same crap goes on in the USA, and Canada no doubt.

That all comes back to the press again, Karlin. They are the ones who can force the politicians to act because public opinion shifts when the real story gets out. For instance, ITN here unaware of the move to charge Bush and Blair with war crimes although it caused quite a stir at the time.

 

[I think not]

"Court case against General Franks in Brussels"

"Twenty victims of war crimes committed by U.S. troops during the recent war against Iraq are filing charges before the federal prosecutor of Belgium for violations of International Humanitarian Law."

"The complaint is directed against soldiers—who are not identified at this stage—who have committed war crimes. It mentions General Tommy Franks in particular for ordering war crimes and for not preventing others from committing them or for providing protection to the perpetrators."

This was a move for those mentioned above regarding war crimes and not for Bush and Blair.

Why not do the same for leaders of other countries that are obviously complicit? Since the US is so feared. Why? Even if it is done to make a political statement worldwide, why isn't it done?

 

[Ocean Breeze]

http://www.lewrockwell.com/reese/reese240.html


Cheney losing his moorings?????

( seems to be a contageous "disease" in the bush regime.)


{imagine a nation being run by a gang of lunatics...Yikes!}

 

[moghrabi]

RE: It’s time Cheney step

funny to read. Thanks OB.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20051212/scheer1122


Cheney's trouble with truth

 

[unclepercy]

You know dam well why think, your government is nothing but a pack of bullies and munipulators. The fact that people even speak about this shows the distain and contempt the world feels for your government. Just like all bullies, you might be running the playground, but everyone hates your guts.

Get a grip. Your government is any better? Uh, take a look at the news today:

November 29, 2005

Canadian Government Expected to Be Toppled

http://channelone.com/news/2005/11/29/ap_canada/

At least we have a government. Laughing my ass off! Percy

 

[moghrabi]

RE: It’s time Cheney step

When we have a corrupt government, we expect it to be removed. We are still waiting for you to even admit to have a corrupt government.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

At least we have a government. Laughing my ass off! Percy

yes , ya do......one that cheated to get into power and cheated/lied since then.

we is laughing our asses off too......as how many nations would "vote" in a warmongering idiot-fascist wannabee into power TWICE???

 

[moghrabi]

we is laughing our asses off too......as how many nations would vote in a warmongering idiot into power TWICE???

OB! Would that make all the voters who voted him twice are as idiot as their moron leader? :lol:

 

[Ocean Breeze]

we is laughing our asses off too......as how many nations would vote in a warmongering idiot into power TWICE???

OB! Would that make all the voters who voted him twice are as idiot as their moron leader? :lol:

that would make "logical " sense.........wouldn't it??? :wink:

 

[moghrabi]

RE: It’s time Cheney step

Of course it does. I just love to hear it again and again.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: It’s time Cheney step

When we have a corrupt government, we expect it to be removed. We are still waiting for you to even admit to have a corrupt government.

hey mog........why would a "corrupt" population want to remove a corrupt gov't?? :wink:

The silence of the population is so revealing about the character of the nation... 8O


I could be convinced that bush is the front man for Cheney.....in the CORRUPT us regime...

............and wonder how long it will be before "SHOW YOUR PAPERS "..........becomes the norm in the US....

 

[moghrabi]

RE: It’s time Cheney step

Very true indeed.

 

[no1important]

RE: It’s time Cheney step

............and wonder how long it will be before "SHOW YOUR PAPERS "..........becomes the norm in the US....

It already has.:evil:

On another thread is a story about lady on the bus, who was aressted for not showing ID...

 

[unclepercy]

we is laughing our asses off too......as how many nations would vote in a warmongering idiot into power TWICE???

OB! Would that make all the voters who voted him twice are as idiot as their moron leader? :lol:

Based on what I have heard and read, I have absolutely no respect for your opinion any more. Click. I just tuned you out.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

Percy

 

[Ocean Breeze]

I just tuned you out.

interesting as this is what bush does.......only he becomes truly "deaf" to any negative feedback about his unethical. criminal administration or his illegal invasion of Iraq.

Must be a bushcon tactic that primarily is employed by bushCo. and desciples....

...........but as ya wish.. ( prefering to remain in mushroom status is definately a choice that many make. .......and they have plenty of maneur to feed off ...)

 

[moghrabi]

Click. I just tuned you out.

Percy

And who cares?