It's Climate Change I tell'ya!! IT'S CLIMATE CHANGE!!

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No climate change? I snow birded annually to the Keys, its a shame.
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"KEY WEST, Fla. — Officials in the Florida Keys announced what many coastal governments nationwide have long feared, but few have been willing to admit: As seas rise and flooding gets worse, not everyone can be saved.
And in some places, it doesn’t even make sense to try.
On Wednesday morning, Rhonda Haag, the county’s sustainability director, released the first results of the county’s yearslong effort to calculate how high its 300 miles of roads must be elevated to stay dry, and at what cost. Those costs were far higher than her team expected — and those numbers, she said, show that some places can’t be protected, at least at a price that taxpayers can be expected to pay.
“I never would have dreamed we would say ‘no,’” Ms. Haag said in an interview. “But now, with the real estimates coming in, it’s a different story. And it’s not all doable.”
The results released Wednesday focus on a single three-mile stretch of road at the southern tip of Sugarloaf Key, a small island 15 miles up Highway 1 from Key West. To keep those three miles of road dry year-round in 2025 would require raising it by 1.3 feet, at a cost of $75 million, or $25 million per mile. Keeping the road dry in 2045 would mean elevating it 2.2 feet, at a cost of $128 million. To protect against expected flooding levels in 2060, the cost would jump to $181 million.
What on Earth Is Going On?
And all that to protect about two dozen homes.
“I can’t see staff recommending to raise this road,” Ms. Haag said. “Those are taxpayer dollars, and as much as we love the Keys, there’s going to be a time when it’s going to be less population.”
The people who live on that three-mile stretch of road were less understanding. If the county feels that other parts of the Keys ought to be saved, said Leon Mense, a 63-year-old office manager at a medical clinic, then at least don’t make him pay for it."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage
Is sea level rising ?
 

spilledthebeer

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No climate change? I snow birded annually to the Keys, its a shame.
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"KEY WEST, Fla. — Officials in the Florida Keys announced what many coastal governments nationwide have long feared, but few have been willing to admit: As seas rise and flooding gets worse, not everyone can be saved.
And in some places, it doesn’t even make sense to try.
On Wednesday morning, Rhonda Haag, the county’s sustainability director, released the first results of the county’s yearslong effort to calculate how high its 300 miles of roads must be elevated to stay dry, and at what cost. Those costs were far higher than her team expected — and those numbers, she said, show that some places can’t be protected, at least at a price that taxpayers can be expected to pay.
“I never would have dreamed we would say ‘no,’” Ms. Haag said in an interview. “But now, with the real estimates coming in, it’s a different story. And it’s not all doable.”
The results released Wednesday focus on a single three-mile stretch of road at the southern tip of Sugarloaf Key, a small island 15 miles up Highway 1 from Key West. To keep those three miles of road dry year-round in 2025 would require raising it by 1.3 feet, at a cost of $75 million, or $25 million per mile. Keeping the road dry in 2045 would mean elevating it 2.2 feet, at a cost of $128 million. To protect against expected flooding levels in 2060, the cost would jump to $181 million.
What on Earth Is Going On?
And all that to protect about two dozen homes.
“I can’t see staff recommending to raise this road,” Ms. Haag said. “Those are taxpayer dollars, and as much as we love the Keys, there’s going to be a time when it’s going to be less population.”
The people who live on that three-mile stretch of road were less understanding. If the county feels that other parts of the Keys ought to be saved, said Leon Mense, a 63-year-old office manager at a medical clinic, then at least don’t make him pay for it."
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/04/...tion=click&module=Top Stories&pgtype=Homepage






Ah - Nut Zone Doug was a SNOW BIRD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And Nut Zone Doug is mourning the imminent bankruptcy..............................


of Alitalia and the South African national airline...............................


because HE USES BOTH AIRLINES REGULARLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently he travels often from his current lair in New Zealand..............................................


to meet with his propaganda chiefs in Beijing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What this means is that WE CAN BLAME Nut Zone Doug for a chunk of climate change!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Because of all the jet fuel the asshat burns in the course of his travels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nut Zone Doug is an ENEMY OF THE ENVIRONMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nut Zone Doug is a TYPICAL LIE-beral!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


He deplores the "climate emergency" even as he demands his RIGHT to fly where and when he pleases!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Nut Zone Doug follows a path as logical as that of B.C. residents who OPPOSE PIPELINES..........................


and then CRY BITTER TEARS OVER THE PRICE OF GAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


LIE-beral policy is ALL BASED ON "DO AS I SAY- NOT AS I DO"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


As I have said before - always selfish LIE-berals are prepared to DESTROY the lives of ordinary people...................


in order to ENHANCE LIE-beral entitlements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

spilledthebeer

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The Keys are sinking. How high of a tax will it take to stymie the sinking?


The ENTIRE EASTERN SEABOARD of North America is sinking.......................


courtesy of continental drift.................................


so what cost to make the continents hold still.........................................


and then persuade LIE-berals to find SOME OTHER EXCUSE.........................


for their Climate Emergency LIES?????????????????????





It sounds VERY EXPENSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Twin_Moose

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Wow I thought the huge Enviro. news was that Russia was warming at an alarming rate? What is this Russian invasion telling us?

Prairies: Siberian blast moves in, will drop highs to -20 C

Another reason for Cryin Canadian to hate Alberta

Fast-moving storm to hit Greater Toronto Area Friday morning

"This is a fast-moving Alberta clipper and while amounts won’t be extreme, the timing is very bad for anyone that needs to commute in the GTA."
Farnell said five to 10 centimetres of snow could fall and areas just north of downtown Toronto should see the highest amounts.
"The snowfall rates of one or two centimetres per hour during the heart of the morning rush is the big problem," he said.

Out here it was called a Colorado low in Ont. they call it an Alberta Clipper, interesting
 

spilledthebeer

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Vancouver Island is raising. Do we get tax credits to stop it?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Petros is whining that the east coast is sinking into the sea................................


and tax slave wants tax credits because Vancouver island is



rising and no doubt the scenic mountain roads are getting



steeper and harder to drive on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And I am assuming tax slave is joking about the tax credits.........................


though if LIE-beral gravy was offered as compensation ....................................


I presume he would accept it gracefully!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And is it not pleasant to know that these climate observations by real Canadians...............................


are proving my statements about continental drift!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AND ILLUSTRATING THAT LIE-berals are lying as usual................................


and trying to blame fossil fuel for that NATURAL PHENOMENON called changing sea levels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


On a related theme - should we not recall that most Pacific islands have VOLCANOES at their hearts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Meaning ACTIVE VOLCANOES CREATED those islands in ages past...........................


and now that the volcanoes are no longer active............................


the SEA IS WEARING THEM AWAY - with no new rock being added by those extinct volcanoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Should we ask if those slowly flooding Pacific islands are also suffering from continental drift????????????????


After all IT WAS continental drift that generated the volcanoes in the first place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And now the pattern of volcano distribution has changed.............................


PERHAPS DUE TO CONTINENTAL DRIFT..................................


rather than because of some LIE-beral bullsh+t policy and crap tax scam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

petros

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Ask the residents of Florida Keys and their Councils.
I used to stay at the most Southern Campground int the USA, at the 6 mile marker.
Many good times, took the Zodiac inflatable down in the VW Westphalia 6 years in a row.
Save the bales!
Shame its fooked.
Its sinking.
 

petros

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Wow I thought the huge Enviro. news was that Russia was warming at an alarming rate? What is this Russian invasion telling us?
Prairies: Siberian blast moves in, will drop highs to -20 C
Another reason for Cryin Canadian to hate Alberta
Fast-moving storm to hit Greater Toronto Area Friday morning
Out here it was called a Colorado low in Ont. they call it an Alberta Clipper, interesting
Thank your lucky stars it's not a Saskatchewan Screamer
 

Twin_Moose

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Thank your lucky stars it's not a Saskatchewan Screamer

Alberta Clipper is creating chaos in Ont., Sask. screamer would shut it down completely

Police Are Warning GTA Drivers To Stay Home Today After Hours Of Collisions

If you were thinking about getting in your car this morning, you might want to think again. GTA drivers are being warned to stay off the roads after a series of collisions on Thursday morning. York Regional Police cautioned motorists to allow themselves a snow day if possible, to help combat the growing number of accidents on local highways.
“Be safe on the roads today and stay home if you can. This morning we have already had 40 calls for collisions in only 3 hours. Slow down, take your time and be courteous to other drivers,” police warned on Twitter.
Friday morning’s commute initially got off to a good start with no serious collisions being reported.
However, just after 9:00 a.m., a truck rolled into a ditch on Highway 427 near the southbound ramp from Finch Avenue. It is expected to take 2 hours to clean up.
Sgt. Kerry Schmidt offered up his opinions on this morning’s driving conditions while patrolling Highway 401.
“It’s going to be an interesting morning drive, make sure you have full visibility, your mirrors are clear and that you can react to changing conditions.”.....More
 

NZDoug

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Its sinking.
If you place a brick in a bucket standing it on its end so it's like an apartment building, and then fill the bucket with water to the level of the brick, do you have established a water level.
If you place another brick on top of the brick, and that brick falls over, the water level rises equivalent to the volume of the second brick.
Thats an explanation of coastal erosion.
Get it?
 

spilledthebeer

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I've been wondering about that. When you combine continental drift with a bit of knowledge of hydrology makes one wonder if the ocean is actually rising.




WELL SURE............................


in the LIE-beral universe........................


water ALWAYS WASHES OVER SINKING LAND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Apparently LIE-beral science is SO BAD that they think..........................


that BURNING FOSSIL FUEL CAUSES CONTINENTAL DRIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


And yet LIE-berals CAN SEE how continental drift might cause............................


a BIG EARTHQUAKE in California!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Oh well - if they did not have such HUGE BLIND SPOTS.......................


I guess they would not be allowed to be LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Twin_Moose

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If you place a brick in a bucket standing it on its end so it's like an apartment building, and then fill the bucket with water to the level of the brick, do you have established a water level.
If you place another brick on top of the brick, and that brick falls over, the water level rises equivalent to the volume of the second brick.
Thats an explanation of coastal erosion.
Get it?

Oh so displacement isn't in the equation?
 

NZDoug

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Oh so displacement isn't in the equation?
Of course it is.
Also, more scientific facts.
The earth acts as a sponge when it rains and absorbs water.
Now Toronto is completely paved over over so it can't absorb water in the spring when combined with heavy rains and the result is the Toronto Islands flooding.
Get it?
I should have been a school teacher......
 

Twin_Moose

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Of course it is.
Also, more scientific facts.
The earth acts as a sponge when it rains and absorbs water.
Now Toronto is completely paved over over so it can't absorb water in the spring when combined with heavy rains and the result is the Toronto Islands flooding.
Get it?
I should have been a school teacher......

So it's not climate change it is more due to un-natural displacement of water