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Here is an article explaining why Ontari-owe LIE-berals will NOT be able to unseat Doug Ford any time soon!! With some comments of my own in brackets):
Ford offers concessions, teachers union storms out
By Brian Lilley
Published: October 25, 2019, Updated: October 25, 2019 7:35 AM EDT
Filed Under: Toronto SUN/ Opinion/ Columnists
It’s a proposal that in the world of hard-nosed negotiating seems pretty reasonable. The Ford government offered to meet the union representing public high school teachers halfway on the issue of class size.
The response from the Ontario Secondary School Teachers Federation was to walk out, end talks with a conciliator and move towards starting a strike on or close to Remembrance Day.
“The proposal that we received this morning is, in fact, worse than the Ford government’s original plan,” said OSSTF President Harvey Bischof.
(IN other words- teachers RESENT ANY Ford plan to change school operations in any way!! IN light of the two billion dollar INCREASE in the Ford education budget - with DISHONEST teachers STILL referring to the Ford budget AS A CUT - simply because it does not feed them GRAVY as fast as they FEEL they are ENTITLED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Funny, I thought the proposal from Premier Doug Ford’s PC government to increase the average class size from 22 to 28 was the end of public education! Teachers and their supporters have said that if the increase goes forward, schools would be gutted.
So how can scaling that back be such a bad thing?
(There is NO logic in the education system - there is ONLY GREED!! Even LIE-beral premier Dalton McGinty recognized this when he tried to rein in teacher gravy grabs with a tighter education budget!! The teacher reaction was so VILE and so STRONG - with LIE-berals so dependant on civil service union HOG votes that McGinty was FORCED TO QUIT POLITICS - that is when Wynne-bag took over and her first act was to publicly assure teachers that her govt “would do whatever it takes to win back teacher trust”!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(For Wynne-bag - earning teacher trust means throwing gravy at them until they are gorged on it and stop whining - for a while - which explains why Ontari-owe is carrying RECORD DEBT LEVELS!! The irony is that if Wynne-bag had won the June 2018 election - HOGS would not have been happy since LIE-berals were ALREADY ON NOTICE from bankers that the spending spree was OVER!!!!!!)
(Ford is simply doing what he must to avoid Ontari-owe being driven into the debt wall - with resulting crippling penalties that would impact HOGS FAR WORSE than any Ford budget anyway!! One has only to look at riots in places like Greece to recognize the UGLY CONSEQUENCES of that debt wall MESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Education Minister Stephen Lecce announced on Thursday — as the Ford cabinet was meeting — that the government had offered to scale back the class size increase to an average of 25 students.
“We are proposing a significant reduction in class sizes from 28 to 25 with one aim in mind that is keeping kids in class,” Lecce told reporters are Queen’s Park.
The offer had been made as provincial negotiators met with OSSTF negotiators with the help of a conciliator. Despite the presence of the conciliator and the offer to move on class size, the meeting lasted less than 45 minutes before the union walked out and announced they wanted to move towards a legal strike position.
(In other words - the union PLANNED the confrontation AND THE STRIKE!! HOGS truly believe they are entitled to bankrupt us if they want to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Lecce said the actions of the union threaten the stability that parents want this school year.
“They opted to escalate at a time and we are trying to de-escalate, get a deal and keep the parties to the table. I think the contrast could not be more clear,” Lecce said.
(Teachers are joined by cravenly coward time serving school board trustees in making trouble for Ford!! Trustees are supposed to be the employer of teachers but such is the power of teachers that trustees are simply useless hangers on in our education system!! At this time trustees are trying to blame the INCREASED FORD BUDGET for the rotten and decayed state of our schools - that have been neglected for 30 years as all school board money goes to HOG Salaries with little left for maintenance - hence the decrepit state of our schools!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Indeed, it couldn’t be more clear so I’m not really sure why the province is trying to play nice and offer concessions to the teachers’ union bosses, who obviously want to play hardball and head to a strike in order to get everything they want. The union wants no movement on class size — basically a return to 22-student maximum average — and a 2% wage hike when the broader public service is getting 1% and many in the private sector are getting nothing.
(In other news - there are reports that the after tax income of many Cdns in 2019 is shrinking drastically as inflation takes its toll on employees who aint getting pay raises because their bosses are broke!! Such is the greed and influence of HOGS that whenever an election is called or a HOG strike threatened - we see a DRASTIC DROP in retail spending that hurts many Cdns!! Hogs don’t spend when they are gearing up for STRIKES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(We have just finished the most ugly federal election in our history - both teachers and LIE-berals spewing Fake News!! Things are SO BAD that LIE-berals actually PAID Cdn news media “that LIE-berals trust” from a six hundred million dollar SLUSH FUND set up to reward LIE-beral friendly news media!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
(Ford govt is already dealing with massive interference from HOGS - all of whom sincerely wish to CRIPPLE ANY Conservative govt and Ford simply does not wish to further encourage LIE-beral media bigots to spew MORE FAKE NEWS!!)
First off, on the wages, none of us should feel bad for highschool teachers. The average OSSTF member earns $92,000 a year, according to figures from the Ministry of Education. Considering the average Canadian working full-time earns between $50,000-60,000 a year, those teachers demanding more pay are already doing very well.
(Teachers will of course give us nonsense about how hard they work after hours and on weekends etc - with NO WAY to verify any of the claims!! Even worse- many teachers RETIRE on those solid gold pensions that are indexed to inflation and many teachers end up living LONGER on their pensions than they spent in the work force!! Such extreme generosity is NOT SUSTAINABLE because it is based on BORROWED MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Secondly, there are numerous studies showing class size is not tied to educational outcomes. That said, parents believe that it matters. They think smaller class sizes will help turn their kids into geniuses.
(Ah - there is the HOG DEVIL in the details!! One employed Cdn in three gets some sort of govt cheque- and THEY ALL want the gravy train to roll on - without interference from the likes of Ford!! Thanks to union loud mouths and to LIE-beral media bribery - it can be VERY DIFFICULT to figure out what the public REALLY WANTS!! Many parents FEAR to make their feelings known since teachers have so many ways to RETALIATE against our kids!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
So, the province bended on what parents want and made a major concession to the union. The union’s response: Demand even larger raises — estimated to cost taxpayers a minimum of $1.5 billion in extra spending a year — while turning down the government on their class size concession.
The teachers unions in this province have claimed that under Ford, education spending has been slashed. That’s not true, it’s up.
(But Fake News dominates education budget discussions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
They’ve also claimed thousands of teachers have been fired. That is also not true as more than 99% of the teachers employed last year are back, and the province created a special fund to make sure no teacher lost their jobs due to changes.
(School trustees MADE A BIG SHOW of firing lots of teachers over the summer- which THEY DO EVERY YEAR anyway -as they sort out who will be retiring or going on maternity leave etc - sadly trustees could not resist taking this shot at Ford and it indicates CLEARLY whose side trustees are on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Teachers unions in this province have a history of fighting every single government no matter the party in power. They think that they are the ones who not only deserve more money from you and a better pension that most people will ever get, but also easier working conditions each year.
(It is that HOG GOAL OF MORE every year that is the problem!! Nothing is ever enough!! Each contract they sign is simply a springboard to budget blackmail for next year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
The Ford government is being reasonable here, maybe even too reasonable, and the union is denouncing them.
Remember that as the unions use your children as bargaining chips in the coming days.
(There is not enough money in the world to fully satisfy HOGS - this is why Ford is premier and not Wynne-bag LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!