Israel practicing apartheid and colonialism

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Here ya go, believe what you want.

"The accounts of 26 war veterans were collected by Breaking the Silence, an organization of Israeli army reservists critical of their country's treatment of Palestinians."

Not a credible source, disgruntled veterans who are forced by law to go war or face imprisonment. There are names for people like them. I do believe you have some of ours up there.

Israeli soldiers: 'No clear red lines' in Gaza war - Yahoo! News
 

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Are you sure about that ironsides? Cuz I seem to remember reading a great big long list of broken undertakings and treaties it (Israhell) had made with qullible old uncle sham. I think I'll look for it. That was before the USA became Israeli property though.


This is only the second time that I've ever posted in a Thread of this topic
(that wasn't in Bold with Green Ink, I guess...), and my knowledge of the
many undertakings and treaties is embarrassingly lacking at best, but
Israel is a Nuclear power, and the story behind how that occurred, and
where the fissionable material came from might be a bone of contention
between Israel and America.
 

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This is only the second time that I've ever posted in a Thread of this topic
(that wasn't in Bold with Green Ink, I guess...), and my knowledge of the
many undertakings and treaties is embarrassingly lacking at best, but
Israel is a Nuclear power, and the story behind how that occurred, and
where the fissionable material came from might be a bone of contention
between Israel and America.

Israel is an undeclared and therefore rogue nuclear power. So it puts their constant complaint about the dangers of a nuclear Iran in stunning hypocriticle light.
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Israeli Nuclear Threats and Blackmaill
 

darkbeaver

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Here ya go, believe what you want.

"The accounts of 26 war veterans were collected by Breaking the Silence, an organization of Israeli army reservists critical of their country's treatment of Palestinians."

Not a credible source, disgruntled veterans who are forced by law to go war or face imprisonment. There are names for people like them. I do believe you have some of ours up there.

Israeli soldiers: 'No clear red lines' in Gaza war - Yahoo! News

Is men of conscience the term you were referring to?
 

ironsides

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This is only the second time that I've ever posted in a Thread of this topic
(that wasn't in Bold with Green Ink, I guess...), and my knowledge of the
many undertakings and treaties is embarrassingly lacking at best, but
Israel is a Nuclear power, and the story behind how that occurred, and
where the fissionable material came from might be a bone of contention
between Israel and America.


The nuclear power thing was a bone of contention, the U.S. sort of gave them a start in 1955, but President Eisenhower refused to sell them anything during his terms in office. France gave or built Israel's 1st reactor back around 1955-56 or so. That time it wasn't us. :) In fact, they were supplying them with just about everything including the Mirage jets they used against Egypt and just about everyone else till we gave them F-4 Phantoms in the mid 60's.

The only treaty with Israel I could find was a defense treaty we have with them.



 
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darkbeaver

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ICRC: Israel Traps Gazans in Deprivation and Despair

By Stephen Lendman

Global Research, July 16, 2009

No Reconstruction Allowed - Public Health at Risk
Despite billions pledged for reconstruction, practically none of it has come because of Israel's tight embargo on virtually everything needed. As a result, thousands of displaced and destitute families live in cramped quarters with relatives or in tents as their only other alternative.
Some emergency repairs were carried out, but "only to the already unsatisfactory level prevailing before December 2008." Overall, the infrastructure is inadequate, overloaded, and subject to breakdown. Although chlorine is available to disinfect water, sewage and other waste matter seepage remains a major threat to public health. Each day, 69 million liters of partially or untreated effluent are pumped into the Mediterranean for lack of an ability to handle it.
 

ironsides

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Ever wonder why Egypt won't let Palestinians into their country? Ever wonder why Egypt won't send so called humanitarian aid to Gaza?
Egypt Closes Breached Border With Gaza

No one ever seems to mention Egypt, it is always Israel alone who is blockading Gaza, it is not. Egypt is also.

The 2007–2009 blockade of the Gaza Strip refers to the most recent blockade of Gaza, one imposed by Egypt and Israel, beginning in June 2007, on the Hamas-governed Gaza Strip of the Palestinian territories.
2007–2009 blockade of the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




 

darkbeaver

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Ever wonder why Egypt won't let Palestinians into their country? Ever wonder why Egypt won't send so called humanitarian aid to Gaza?
Egypt Closes Breached Border With Gaza

No one ever seems to mention Egypt, it is always Israel alone who is blockading Gaza, it is not. Egypt is also.

The 2007–2009 blockade of the Gaza Strip refers to the most recent blockade of Gaza, one imposed by Egypt and Israel, beginning in June 2007, on the Hamas-governed Gaza Strip of the Palestinian territories.
2007–2009 blockade of the Gaza Strip - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No I never did. Egypt is a bought and kept state of the American people, while Americans loose their jobs and homes Egypt and Israel recieve billions in military aid each and every year. Egypt will have a change of government soon enough.
 

darkbeaver

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Israel is worse than any country that could be imagined, you know they steal kidneys from the poor of the world and sell them for gold and silver. To love Israel is to love filth and disease and all manner of putrid things.
 

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Israel is worse than any country that could be imagined, you know they steal kidneys from the poor of the world and sell them for gold and silver. To love Israel is to love filth and disease and all manner of putrid things.
Steal?? The article I read said the 'doner' got $6,000 and the 'arrangers' got $60,000.
Perhaps that would explain all the disappeared children once they have been 'matched'.
It isn't like thing aren't going to get much worse now is it?
Irish4Palestine: MUST READ~CRITICIZING ISRAEL TO BE ILLEGAL

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An EU Court of 'Justice' has already outlawed boycotting Israeli goods and products, according to this article here:

Signs of the Times News for Sun, 26 Jul 2009

LOL this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.
 

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"Hamas has four sources of financing:
1 - Contributions from donors across the world who believe in the jihadist action of the Islamist movement against the Israeli “occupier”.
2 - Contributions from countries and organizations that openly support Hamas’s fight against Israel, such as Iran and Hezbollah. These two countries also help Hamas with logistics and equipment.
3 – Contributions from the Muslim Brotherhood organization and its collaborators throughout the Arab world who see Hamas as an extension of their organization.
4 – Hamas funds, investments and taxes on several activities.
Most arms for Palestinian Territories and Hamas transit through the Rafah tunnel between Egypt and Gaza."

Stop the above and Gaza would get anything they want., but it is the people of Gaza who must do it.

Nazi Germany promoted violence against the Jews in Palestine during the thirties by forming Arab Storm Troopers. These Storm Troopers operated till well after WW-2 and were only destroyed after Israeli independence. Before that there was violence between them, but they managed to live in relative peace.

Hamas has been around for only about 20 years. Israel has been killing Palestinians for 60 years. Your viewpoint is not supported by the historical record or common sense. Even if Hamas ceased to exist tomorrow, the root cause of this conflict would still exist. Israel would still illegally occupying Palestinian territory. Israel would continue seizing Palestinian land. Arab Palestinians are in the way of the Zionist goal of a pure Jewish state. The presence or absense of Hamas has little to do with Israel committing atrocities in pursuit of this goal.

As Israel commits ever more outrageous atrocities against Palestinians, they become more militant, not less militant. These people have no shortage of armed resistance movements. Hamas is just the most popular one at the moment.

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Link please regarding the Arab Storm troopers, I can't find any information on them. They don't even appear in Israeli propaganda, let alone legitimate sources. I'm guessing you just made this up.

Perhaps you refer to meetings between a few minor Palestinian leaders and Hitler before and during WW II. At the time, Palestine was occupied by the British who seemed intent on turning control of Palestine over to the Zionists:

The Balfour Declaration of 1917 (dated 2 November 1917) was a formal statement of policy by the British government stating that "His Majesty's government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavors to facilitate the achievement of this object...

Balfour Declaration of 1917 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

1.2 million non-Jews people living in area the Zionists intended to turn into a pure Jewish state with British assistance considered the Balfour declaration a threat. From what I can tell their motivation appears more along the lines of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend". No doubt Nazi Germany supplied arms to Palestinian insurgents during the 1930's and 40's. But I doubt the Nazi Germans and Arab insurgents had much in common besides a common enemy.

At the same time, other Arab Palestinians sided with the British:

The Arab Legion
In October 1920, after taking over the Transjordan region, Great Britain formed a unit of 150 men called the "Mobile Force" under the command of Captain Frederick Gerard Peake to defend the territory against both internal and external threats.[1] It was quickly expanded to 1,000 men recruiting Arabs who had served in the Ottoman army. On 22 October 1923, the police were merged with the Reserve Mobile Force, still under Peake, who was now an employee of the Emirate. The new force was named Al Jeish al Arabi (The Arab Army) but was always known officially in English as the Arab Legion. The Arab Legion was financed by Britain and commanded by British officers.[2] The force was formed as a police force to keep order among the tribes of Transjordan and to guard the important Jerusalem-Amman road....

...In 1939, John Bagot Glubb, better known as Glubb Pasha, became the Legion's commander and transformed it into the best trained Arab army...

...During World War II, the Arab Legion took part in the British war effort against pro-Axis forces in the Middle East Theatre. By then the force had grown to 1,600 men. The Legion, part of Iraqforce, contributed significantly in the Anglo-Iraqi War and in the Syria-Lebanon campaign. These were two decisive early victories for the Allies....

Arab Legion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As far as I can tell the number of Nazi directed Arab Storm Troopers was 0.

When the Brits withdrew their forces from Palestine in 1948, they also order the Arab Legion out of Palestine. The Arab Legion joined the Jordanian forces and returned to Palestine when fighting broke out.
 

darkbeaver

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Steal?? The article I read said the 'doner' got $6,000 and the 'arrangers' got $60,000.
Perhaps that would explain all the disappeared children once they have been 'matched'.
It isn't like thing aren't going to get much worse now is it?
Irish4Palestine: MUST READ~CRITICIZING ISRAEL TO BE ILLEGAL

(from the comments section)
An EU Court of 'Justice' has already outlawed boycotting Israeli goods and products, according to this article here:

Signs of the Times News for Sun, 26 Jul 2009

LOL this just keeps getting stranger and stranger.

Strange is the least of it MHZ, the state of Israel is abominable in the truest sense and all those who support it are to be loathed and despised for their inhuman baseness. Imagine the perversion of justice in not being legally allowed to speak of it as what it is, the most heinous criminal organization ever assembled on this planet. How can anyone, with conscience, support this rotten evil conspiracy?
 

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Strange is the least of it MHZ, the state of Israel is abominable in the truest sense and all those who support it are to be loathed and despised for their inhuman baseness. Imagine the perversion of justice in not being legally allowed to speak of it as what it is, the most heinous criminal organization ever assembled on this planet. How can anyone, with conscience, support this rotten evil conspiracy?
The same way the genocide against the Native Americans took place. Americans supported the overthrow of Iraq based on the promise of cheap gas, it doesn't take much to make the general population complacent to wars of aggression.
What propaganda did the American Gov use against the Indians? That they were killing white settlers and with them gone there would be a lot of 'free' land available for the whites.
Wouldn't the ones who support atrocities against others be even more corrupt than the ones who commit the crimes? Without that support the crimes would stop.
 

darkbeaver

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The same way the genocide against the Native Americans took place. Americans supported the overthrow of Iraq based on the promise of cheap gas, it doesn't take much to make the general population complacent to wars of aggression.
What propaganda did the American Gov use against the Indians? That they were killing white settlers and with them gone there would be a lot of 'free' land available for the whites.
Wouldn't the ones who support atrocities against others be even more corrupt than the ones who commit the crimes? Without that support the crimes would stop.

It would be a close call, but I think you are right. How do the people get informed about what they accept though. Many of them do not want to know, do not want to expend the time to find out, do not care anyway, do not know that they will be its next and greatest victims far beyond whats been done to us already. When we are obliged by the laws of this land to be silent in the face of evil then this land will become my enemy. How long has my country aided and abetted Israeli murderers and monsters, I would like to know our hidden history in this respect? What have we agreed to do for and with these pricks?
 

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Our own history (the one not so widely publicised) is most likely a role model for what they are doing. Just as past 'resolutions' to similar situations was the status quo for how the 'problem of a people already occupying a land that is coveted by another whose main remedy is deadly force'. Who taught Stalin to kill all who "might oppose" him? I doubt he came up with that solution all by himself. Everything that is corrupt eventually implodes from the top down. Israel, nor her blind supporters, are not at the top so their demise would only result in a few name changes, the methods used by us and them will most likely remain the very same.