Israel Is Not A State .... It Is A Crime Scene

[10larry]

Thank goodness the u.s. volunteered to clean up these shyteholes, when they could not locate the nation where the guys that used airliners to attack ny they cleaned up afghanistan. Next they cleaned up iraq followed by libya and now all these nations are peaceful edens so syria can anticipate national bliss soon.
Bit of a bummer the cleaning up of syria has driven a strong nato member to irans side but no prob nothing more bombs and missiles can't take care of.
Isreal is as you assert a lesser shytehole under the u.s. military umbrella however palestine doesn't get to share in this umbrella.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Thank goodness the u.s. volunteered to clean up these shyteholes, when they could not locate the nation where the guys that used airliners to attack ny they cleaned up afghanistan. Next they cleaned up iraq followed by libya and now all these nations are peaceful edens so syria can anticipate national bliss soon.
Bit of a bummer the cleaning up of syria has driven a strong nato member to irans side but no prob nothing more bombs and missiles can't take care of.
Isreal is as you assert a lesser shytehole under the u.s. military umbrella however palestine doesn't get to share in this umbrella.

The US is terrible at cleaning up shyteholes. They occupy one and the create three more as they stumble-bumble their way through history. Their haplessness puts us all in danger.

 

[darkbeaver]

Thank goodness the u.s. volunteered to clean up these shyteholes, when they could not locate the nation where the guys that used airliners to attack ny they cleaned up afghanistan. Next they cleaned up iraq followed by libya and now all these nations are peaceful edens so syria can anticipate national bliss soon.
Bit of a bummer the cleaning up of syria has driven a strong nato member to irans side but no prob nothing more bombs and missiles can't take care of.
Isreal is as you assert a lesser shytehole under the u.s. military umbrella however palestine doesn't get to share in this umbrella.

You,ve had all the recommended shots hav,nt you? The place they can,t clean is America, an experiment gone horribly wrong. I,m not going to miss them.

If we sell Ontario, while it,s still functioning, we might cancel our national debt.

 

[Curious Cdn]

You,ve had all the recommended shots hav,nt you? The place they can,t clean is America, an experiment gone horribly wrong. I,m not going to miss them.

On the contrary, as hapless as they are, they will leave a hole that will be filled by far more totalitarian entities in the World ... China, Russia, Brazil, Iran, the Saudis ...

 

[Jinentonix]

"In order to uphold an occupation regime for any length of time, the occupier must believe in the superiority of his race and in the inferiority of his subjects, who are seen as primitive creatures. Otherwise, what gives him the right to subject another people?"

The answer is found in history. And not the revised liberal bullshit you've been spoon-fed. Over 70 years of constant attacks from Palestine (and other muslim nations) and you expect Israel to "play nice"? Let's look at Palestine. A land of people who are oppressed by un-elected leaders who take power for themselves. These "leaders" continually put the lives of Palestinians at risk by using public infrastructure to launch attacks from. By the way, that act is not only a war crime it is a crime against humanity. But it's interesting how all you anti-Israel idiots refuse to acknowledge that little fact and instead continue to blame Israel.
Muslims have become masters at creating their own hell and then getting mental midgets to believe they're the victims.

 

[10larry]

Arab nations gave the un plenty of warnings of trouble ahead if they gave jews their land and in those 70 years plenty of blood has been shed. Only the un would consider nation building on a hornets nest.

 

[Curious Cdn]

Arab nations gave the un plenty of warnings of trouble ahead if they gave jews their land and in those 70 years plenty of blood has been shed. Only the un would consider nation building on a hornets nest.

... "plenty of warning" back then to the just-formed UN? The ink was still drying on the Charter.

 

[Danbones]

Yeah this is what happens when they (apartheid freaks) take your guns away

Israel confirms video of soldier shooting Palestinian

Jerusalem (AFP) - Israel's military on Tuesday confirmed the authenticity of a widely shared video showing a soldier shoot a Palestinian on the Gaza border followed by rejoicing, actions that have added to scrutiny of the army's use of live fire.

The video comes at a highly sensitive time for Israel's military, which has faced mounting criticism over its use of live fire on the Gaza Strip border, where 31 Palestinians have been killed since late March as mass protests have led to clashes.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/israel-m...g-rejoice-shooting-palestinian-105653505.html


..and to think their gawds have all been shown to never have existed.

 

[Walter]

Nets Who Sided With Hamas Ignore Their Rockets Fired at Israeli Civilians
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...ided-hamas-ignore-their-rockets-fired-israeli

 

[OpposingDigit]

Gaza is under occupation and has the legal right to resist the occupation.

Yes ..... some of the rockets fall short of the intended military target, but that is because Hamas does not have such sophisticated rocketry that Israel has.

When Israel lobs artillery shells into Gaza, they are aimed directly at a military target, but some Israeli artillery fire falls short of it's target and endanger civilians and/or cause Collateral Damage.

It was just a few short years ago that an Israeli doctor admitted to stealing Palestinian human organs because of the Jewish belief that you can't get into Jewish Heaven unless you got all your Original Body Parts. (Except the Foreskin.) That is why the Jewish Folks are totally terrified of suicide bombers ..... They are afraid of losing skin and bones. That is why you see numerous Rabbi's combing the bomb area for anything that even smells like a body part.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2009/08/28/israeli-organ-harvesting

"You could call me a 'matchmaker,' said Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, from Brooklyn, USA, in a secret recording with an FBI-agent whom he believed to be a client. Ten days later, at the end of July this year, Rosenbaum was arrested and a vast, Sopranos-like, imbroglio of money-laundering and illegal organ-trade was revealed. Rosenbaum’s matchmaking had nothing to do with romance. It was all about buying and selling kidneys from Israel on the black market. Rosenbaum says that he buys the kidneys for $10,000, from poor people. He then proceeds to sell the organs to desperate patients in the States for $160,000. The accusations have shaken the American transplantation business. If they are true it means that organ trafficking is documented for the first time in the US, experts tell the New Jersey Real-Time News."
The Palestine Chronicle: A Leading Online Newspaper on Palestine, Israel and the Middle East

The Israeli State itself was formed out of "Violent Terrorism" and the day Jewish Terrorists bombed The King David Hotel in Jerusalem. . Killing 91 people, (July 22, 1946)

The word "terrorist" was invented by the British to describe the
Jewish Irgun and the Stern Gang and its killers, two of whom
became prime ministers of Israel.
http://www.ijaq.net/fforum/jewishterror.htm

A Date With Bevin
Mike Thomson investigates Jewish insurgency in Palestine after WWll and a plot to assassinate Britain’s Foreign Secretary, Earnest Bevin
BBC Radio 4
By Mike Thomson
July 24, 2006
BBC - Radio 4 Document - USA and Pakistan in the 1970's

3 J.D.L. Members Seized In Bombings
By Howard W. French
May 09, 1987
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Vancier

 

[Gilgamesh]

Agree it's alleged some arabs deal in terror but if memory serves germans under a nazi swastika were the tribe determined to annihilate jews from the face of the earth. I fail to make the palestinian connection.

If you don't then you should try reading history.

Look up Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Muslim einsatzgruppen etc.

 

[justfred99]

When Assad in Syria was shooting unarmed protesters it was called a horrible crime.

Israel is doing the same thing and America claims that the unarmed protesters deserve to be shot.

And how can the Palestinian's be said to be illegally protesting while on their own land? How Is it possible or Israel to shoot unarmed protesters while protesting on their own land?

I think that there is a fine line on land ownership here. The Palistinians are on land that they lost possession in the 1948 war. They are given the right to live on land that is considered to be Israel, albeit small tracts. There are factors from both sides that being that the Israelis will build houses on the land they let the Palestintans live on, and the Palestinians shoot rockets over the boarder into Israel. Both are at fault to some degree. We are given to understand that Gaza Strip depends on Israel for power and water. Want to understand hardship, what would happen if they shut the power off and water.
By the wy, should we suggest that the person that started this thread, move to Gaza and get involved with the protest against Israel.

 

[Hoid]

How can a country (Palestine) not be allowed to have an armed forces?

The whole question of Israel is an ethical joke.

 

[Twin_Moose]

Gaza is under occupation and has the legal right to resist the occupation.

Yes ..... some of the rockets fall short of the intended military target, but that is because Hamas does not have such sophisticated rocketry that Israel has.

When Israel lobs artillery shells into Gaza, they are aimed directly at a military target, but some Israeli artillery fire falls short of it's target and endanger civilians and/or cause Collateral Damage.

It was just a few short years ago that an Israeli doctor admitted to stealing Palestinian human organs because of the Jewish belief that you can't get into Jewish Heaven unless you got all your Original Body Parts. (Except the Foreskin.) That is why the Jewish Folks are totally terrified of suicide bombers ..... They are afraid of losing skin and bones. That is why you see numerous Rabbi's combing the bomb area for anything that even smells like a body part.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2009/08/28/israeli-organ-harvesting

"You could call me a 'matchmaker,' said Levy Izhak Rosenbaum, from Brooklyn, USA, in a secret recording with an FBI-agent whom he believed to be a client. Ten days later, at the end of July this year, Rosenbaum was arrested and a vast, Sopranos-like, imbroglio of money-laundering and illegal organ-trade was revealed. Rosenbaum’s matchmaking had nothing to do with romance. It was all about buying and selling kidneys from Israel on the black market. Rosenbaum says that he buys the kidneys for $10,000, from poor people. He then proceeds to sell the organs to desperate patients in the States for $160,000. The accusations have shaken the American transplantation business. If they are true it means that organ trafficking is documented for the first time in the US, experts tell the New Jersey Real-Time News."
The Palestine Chronicle: A Leading Online Newspaper on Palestine, Israel and the Middle East

The Israeli State itself was formed out of "Violent Terrorism" and the day Jewish Terrorists bombed The King David Hotel in Jerusalem. . Killing 91 people, (July 22, 1946)

The word "terrorist" was invented by the British to describe the
Jewish Irgun and the Stern Gang and its killers, two of whom
became prime ministers of Israel.
http://www.ijaq.net/fforum/jewishterror.htm

A Date With Bevin
Mike Thomson investigates Jewish insurgency in Palestine after WWll and a plot to assassinate Britain’s Foreign Secretary, Earnest Bevin
BBC Radio 4
By Mike Thomson
July 24, 2006
BBC - Radio 4 Document - USA and Pakistan in the 1970's

3 J.D.L. Members Seized In Bombings
By Howard W. French
May 09, 1987
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victor_Vancier

Palestinians aren't innocent either

Skorzeny Sets Up Shop In The Middle East
In Infield’s 1981 biography, Skorzeny: Hitler’s Commando, Infield describes how Skorzeny went to Egypt, where he recruited a staff of former SS officers to mask themselves as converted Muslims and train elite young Mujahideen and the Egyptian Army in terrorist tactics. Infield knew and interviewed Skorzeny, and uncovered a great deal of information relevant to the terrorism we are fighting today.
It was Skorzeny who trained Arab volunteers in guerrilla warfare tactics to use against the British troops stationed in the Suez Canal zone. Palestinian refugees also received commando training, and Skorzeny planned their initial strikes into Israel via the Gaza Strip in 1953-1954.
One of these young Palestinians was Yasser Arafat, who went on to become the leader of the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). The PLO was formed by Palestinian refugees seeking to claim land rights. It was their terrorist arm, Black September, that carried out the horrific kidnapping and murder of eleven Israeli athletes and coaches at the 1972 Olympics in Munich.

LINK
The two most noted Arab politicians who actively collaborated with the Nazis were Grand Mufti of Jerusalem (al Quds) Haj Amin al-Husseini,[28][page needed][29] and the Iraqi prime minister Rashid Ali al-Gaylani.[30][31]
The British forced Mufti al-Husseini into exile for his role in the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine. The ex-Mufti had agents in the Kingdom of Iraq, the French Mandate of Syria and in Mandatory Palestine. In 1941, the Mufti actively supported the Iraqi Golden Square coup d'état, led by Rashid Ali al-Gaylani.[

The Nazi Roots of Modern Radical Islam
By Tom Knowlton

The recent "Letter to the American People" allegedly authored by Osama bin Laden is a virtual ideological manifesto for Islamic extremists. It serves to outline the perceived grievances of radical Muslims against Israel and the West.
The letter claims, "It is the Muslims who are the inheritors of Moses," dating the conflict between Jews and Arabs back to the Biblical conflict between Abraham's two children: his eldest son, Ishmael (from who Arabs are believed descended), and his younger son, Isaac (from who Jews are believed descended). Some Muslims believe that Isaac usurped Ishmael's birthright.
Likewise, prominent imams such as Abu Qatada, Omar Muhammad Bakri, and Abu Hamza regularly echo this claim that Arabs and Jews have been bitter enemies from the dawn of time.

However, after over 700 years of peaceful coexistence, the true start of the Arab-Israeli conflict can be dated to 1920 and the rise of one man, Haj Amin Muhammad Al Husseini, the grand mufti of Jerusalem. As grand mufti, al Husseini presided as the Imam of the Al Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem, the highest Muslim authority in the British mandate.
History shows Al Husseini to be a brutal man with aspirations to rule a pan-Arabic empire in the Middle East. He rose to prominence by actively eliminating those Jews and Arabs he considered a threat to his control of Jerusalem's Arab population, and he heavily utilized anti-Jewish propaganda to polarize the two communities.
In 1920 and again in 1929, Al Husseini incited anti-Jewish riots by claiming the Jews were plotting to destroy the Al Asqa mosque. The riots resulted in the massacre of hundreds of Jewish civilians and a virtual end to the Jewish presence in Hebron.
The 1936 Arab revolt against the British is believed to have been at least partially funded by Nazi Adolf Eichmann, and Al Husseini again ordered armed Arab militias to massacre Jewish citizens.
When British authorities finally quelled the rebellion in 1939, Al Husseini fled to neighboring Iraq and helped to orchestrate a 1941 anti-British jihad. As in Jerusalem, the British successfully put down the rebellion and Al Husseini fled to Nazi Germany.
Al Husseini found the Nazis to be a strong ideological match with his anti-Jewish brand of Islam, and schemed with Hitler and the Nazi hierarchy to create a pro-Nazi pan-Arabic form of government in the Middle East.

Dr. Serge Trifkovic documents the similarities between Al Husseini's brand of radical Islam and Nazism in his book The Sword of the Prophet. He noted parallels in both ideologies: anti-Semitism, quest for world dominance, demand for the total subordination of the free will of the individual, belief in the abolishment of the nation-state in favor of a "higher" community (in Islam the umma or community of all believers; in Nazism, the herrenvolk or master race), and belief in undemocratic governance by a "divine" leader (an Islamic caliph, or Nazi führer).
The Nazis provided Al Husseini with luxurious accommodations in Berlin and a monthly stipend in excess of $10,000. In return, he regularly appeared on German radio touting the Jews as the "most fierce enemies of Muslims," and implored an adoption of the Nazi "final solution" by Arabs. After the Nazi defeat at El Alamein in 1942, Al Husseini broadcast radio messages on Radio Berlin calling for continued Arabic resistance to Allied forces. In time, he came to be known as the "Fuhrer's Mufti" and the "Arab Fuhrer."
In March 1944, Al Husseini broadcast a call for a jihad to "kill the Jews wherever you find them. This pleases God, history, and religion."

So Islamic extremists are indeed Nazis, and I thought most of the modern world is against Nazism

 

[Hoid]

except you and your friends here?

 

[Twin_Moose]

except you and your friends here?

Why am I not against Nazis?

 

[Hoid]

because they are everything you want to be?

 

[Twin_Moose]

Oh? News to me thanks for pointing it out, I'll try to change

 

[Gilgamesh]

How can a country (Palestine) not be allowed to have an armed forces?

The whole question of Israel is an ethical joke.

They do have their own forces. And they keep losing.

The USA govt is careful never to make official comments. You aren't just a liar,you are a clumsy ill informed one.

 

[10larry]

Comical if not so morose, the tiny ill equipped 'security' force charged with defending palestine from the likes of u.s. supplied air power and modern weaponry has less chance of border breach than the proverbial snowball in hell has of avoiding meltdown.
The un gave isreal life so feel obliged to nuture regardless of it's criminal behavior, iraq paid a heavy price for saddam lobbing a scud or two toward the jewish state and the u.s. still stands guard as netanyahu prepares his menu for iran.