Re: RE: Islamofascists' rally
darkbeaver said:
Ground zero is an icon of fascism, three thousand dead is nothing compared to the millions of innocent men women and children murdered so you could engage in the pursuit of life liberty and happiness. What about justice? I don,t mind being politically inncorrect about that about ground zero.
hello fellow canuck
i believe what you say is sort of true
except that its not that the millions that were slaughtered were slaughtered so americans could engage in the pursuit of life and liberty but so that( lets call them )western countries could - one of them is called canada
the american empire is just the latest chapter
before that we had the brutal british empire of which canada was a willing member
before that the french and the dutch
before that the spanish empire
let us consider this
during say the 1500s the spanish empire ruled and performed violence in order to obtain wealth from the americas
many of their fellow european
countries , most notably the english railed against the depravity of the imperialists,
but spainès exploitation of the americas actually enriched much of europe including england as they then looted the looters. the loot that spain carried back home effectively found its way into the hands of their european trading partners beginning a process that would eventually spark the industrial revolution and the ascencion of europe in relation to -ironically- the islammic world and asia.
in retrospect i think whats really happening here is this
at any given time since 1492 there has been a dominant
european power at the forefront of expansion and exploitation
essentially doing the dirty work that would not only directly benefit
itself but also indirectly its fellow european pseudo rivals
the lesser powers who indirectly bennefit are one or two steps removed from the dirty work and can thru self deception claim a higher moral position (ie in the 1500s ie say the english)
when given the chance however some of these lesser powers rise to becoming the dominant power and as a rule becuase of innovations in technology excede the savage exploits of their
predesessors
no one wants
to believe that their society is somehow benefiting from or responsable directly or indirecctly for the savage acts being committed by the dominant power of the time.
the US is the now the dominant power
The ability of the US economic-military machine
to create wealth, and to EXTRACT wealth from weaker nonwestern societies
greatly benefits canada its major trading partner
and by extension its partner in crime
the canadian nation state is on the other hand is also very successfull
it has positioned itself as the primary trading partner of the US and at the same time it its cultural brain washing apparatus has successfully convinced most of its citizens that they are different from, separate from, distinct,more caring than their neighbours to the south
much of what we are told here is not true
1-there was no slavery in canada-false
2-no major genocide took place in the conquest of canada-false
3-the canadian nation state supports freedom and democrasy abroad- only when its economic interests are not threatened
4- there is no significant racism here-false
5- our national police force RCMP is simpy the best and fairest and most competant- false
6- we have freedom of speech here- sort of
7- we are the best country the world AND we are modest-false
8- we are not a melting pot but a mosaic- sort of
9- we are not materialistic and competative-false
10 - we are better( or nicer )people than americans-false
11- we have less murders than the US- true but tell me
whats canadas murder rate compared to say
the UK
France
Spain
Ireland
Japan etc
crummy!
its important that we not know the truth of what we do
if we did we would become completely demoralized
we must think of ourselves as good while at the same time being complicite in the war crimes making our standard of living possible
this is not a comdemnation of the the americans or the canadians or the english or spanish or anyone else. because
unfortunately i believe this process has a life of its own and as individuals we cant really stop it, we can however be aware of it,without being able to stop it and without being able to withstand the guilt we do what we CAN do --blame it all on the dominant power.
i know what you are
because i was once one of you
you are an agent, without realizing it
you are serving the denial need of canadian culture
