Is Trump's base fraying?

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Is Trump's base fraying?

(CNN)On the campaign trail, Donald Trump famously described his core supporters as impervious to outside influence -- even when it when it came to his own troubling or divisive behavior.

"I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody," he said at a 2015 rally in Iowa, "and I wouldn't lose voters."
For many pundits, this has become a kind of gospel. Trump was elected in 2016 against what most considered insurmountable odds -- and despite a series of allegations of sexual misconduct that dovetailed with the release of the "Access Hollywood" tape.

But a new national Pew Research Center poll released this week suggests the bonds that delivered him to the White House could be fraying since his inauguration. The survey, which was conducted between November 29 and December 4, showed Trump's support narrowing across a wide range of typically friendly demographics, from evangelicals to the elderly and whites without college degrees.
There is some overlap between groups there, of course, and the survey compared Trump's numbers now to his scores in February, when he enjoyed a modest post-inaugural bump. But with his approval consistently at or around historic lows for a president at this point in his first term and Republicans in Congress struggling themselves, it has become increasingly clear that even his base is not immune to the downward pressure.
Trump's most notable slide came among white evangelical Protestants. In February, 78% said they approved of his job performance. In the new poll, that number falls to 61% -- a 17-point drop. No other demographic shed more than 10 percentage points.

The President is also now underwater with white non-college adults, his approval at 46%, down from 56% earlier this year. Among all whites, he is down 8 points, to 41%. Trump has also seen significant falloff with older Americans. Among seniors (65+), he's down double digits, from 48% to 38%. For those with retirement on the (perhaps distant) horizon, ages 50 to 64, Trump's approval is also at 38%, down from 47% in February.

The significance of those numbers is underlined by post-election polling from 2016, which helped us map Trump's strongest demographics. Per a Pew report at the time, 67% of whites without college degrees voted for Trump, while only 28% backed Hillary Clinton, the largest exit poll margin in that demographic since 1980.
A Monmouth University poll in August showed that six in 10 people who approved of Trump's job performance (61%) said they couldn't think of anything Trump could do that would make them disapprove of him. A similar 57% of those who disapproved of his performance said they would never change their minds.
But in a similar question from the Public Religion Research Institute this week, that number is significantly different. Only 37% of people who approved of Trump said there was almost nothing he could do to make them reconsider their support -- nearly 25 points lower than the Monmouth question from August. A similar six in 10 people who disapprove say they would never change their minds in the PRRI poll. (These are not apples-to-apples comparisons since different pollsters use different sampling and question wording. Still, the figures are striking.)

Is Trump's base fraying? - CNNPolitics
 

Kreskin

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The don't conduct surveys in mental hospitals. His base is firm. Or maybe infirmed.
 

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When was the last time you saw one of our resident Trumpites actually put forth a reasoned response defending a Trumpite plan?
 

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Fraying is the result of abrasion, often in combination with heat, or accelerated by heat due to friction.

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Curious Cdn

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Answering the thread title: Nope.

The Trump Stupid is completely locked in. Even when Trump flies away in the Presidential helicopter in disgrace for the last time (see: Nixon) they'll still be yelling "fake news".

Walter is particularly thick.
 

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The Trump Stupid is completely locked in. Even when Trump flies away in the Presidential helicopter in disgrace for the last time (see: Nixon) they'll still be yelling "fake news".
The hate is strong in progville.
 

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The Trump Stupid is completely locked in. Even when Trump flies away in the Presidential helicopter in disgrace for the last time (see: Nixon) they'll still be yelling "fake news".

Walter is particularly thick.
There are reports that some are leaving the "base". It seems they are tired of Trumps boorish attitude having hoped he would become more presidential after his win. They misjudged him. Only a trickle so far.......but not all are enchanted with him anymore.


The economy might be doing ok........but POUTS is down to 32 per cent ...so the fissures are evident. But the die hard will remain
 

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Nope it’s not fraying one bit....the Divider-In-Chief still has too many good Americans sleepwalking to his beat.....Sad. I hope these Good Americans wake up before it’s too late where divides are set by the colour of skin...
 

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Nope it’s not fraying one bit....the Divider-In-Chief still has too many good Americans sleepwalking to his beat.....Sad. I hope these Good Americans wake up before it’s too late where divides are set by the colour of skin...

Like BHO did.
 

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CNN BOTCHES ANOTHER 'BOMBSHELL' THREE BIG MEDIA SCREW-UPS IN WEEK

The media's Russia probe meltdown: 3 screw-ups in one week

The misses
Flynn's testimony:
Last Friday, ABC News reported that former national security advisor Michael Flynn was prepared to testify that President Trump, while still a candidate, directed him to contact Russian officials. But later in the day, the network issued a "clarification" that the direction came when Trump was president-elect. That changed the impact of the story entirely as it's a common occurrence for presidential transition teams to reach out to foreign governments.

Deutsche Bank subpoena:
Reuters and Bloomberg both reported on Tuesday that Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation had subpoenaed Deutsche Bank for information on accounts relating to President Trump and his family members — seemingly confirming that Mueller had expanded his probe to investigate the president's financial dealings. The WSJ defused that bombshell in a follow-up report stating that the subpoenas actually dealt with "people or entities close to Mr. Trump."

WikiLeaks emails:
CNN reported this morning that senior Trump campaign officials, including Trump himself, received an email from an unknown sender on September 4, 2016 that linked them to what could have been unreleased WikiLeaks documents. WaPo issued their own report later in the afternoon that the email was actually sent on September 14 — and linked to a trove of documents that WikiLeaks had publicly released a day earlier.
https://www.axios.com/the-medias-russia-probe-meltdown-3-screw-ups-in-one-week-2515978886.html


There is the problem: the ANTIE-TRUMPERS just keep lying...and lying and lying
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..and the lies just keep getting dumber and dumber and dumber...
The peeps are gettin' pretty fed up about all this stupid crap.
 
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More fuel to the fire of 'fake news'..........


It’s impossible to convey with words what a spectacularly devastating scoop CNN believed it had, so it’s necessary to watch it for yourself to see the tone of excitement, breathlessness and gravity the network conveyed as they clearly believed they were delivering a near-fatal blow to the Trump/Russia collusion story:

There was just one small problem with this story: it was fundamentally false, in the most embarrassing way possible. Hours after CNN broadcast its story – and then hyped it over and over and over – the Washington Post reported that CNN got the key fact of the story wrong.

The email was not dated September 4, as CNN claimed, but rather September 14 – which means it was sent after WikiLeaks had already published the DNC emails online. Thus, rather than offering some sort of special access to Trump, “Michael J. Erickson” was simply some random person from the public encouraging the Trump family to look at the publicly available DNC emails that WikiLeaks – as everyone by then already knew – had publicly promoted. In other words, the email was the exact opposite of what CNN presented it as being.

video

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09...-refuses-all-transparency-over-what-happened/
 

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The Trump base is contracting to its basic element which is the white nationalist - which is just the new name.

They have been called Tea Baggers/Swift Boaters/ Birthers and any number of other names.

They were political outcasts until they were untied under Trump.
 

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The Trump base is contracting to its basic element which is the white nationalist - which is just the new name.

They have been called Tea Baggers/Swift Boaters/ Birthers and any number of other names.

They were political outcasts until they were untied under Trump.

Don't forget the alt right.
 

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Don't forget the alt right.

The Neo Nazis are here to stay. Looking back in American history, they have been there for a very long time. Had Nazi Germany not declared war on the USA, who knows? The USA could easily have ended up as their ally.