Is the Pope on crack?
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selfactivated said:(post 1) No it was Anglican. Its not the same but I think its close.
http://www.anglicancatholic.org/
(post 2)Im wrong your right
BUT Theres a type of Protestant too.
(post 3)FiveParadox said:
http://www.victorianweb.org/philosophy/philtl.html
This might help too.
editted so the 3 posts didnt come off as trolling.
Tes England used to be Catholic until a famous King who loved to behead his wives wanted a divorce between him and yet another wife. The Pope said no and thus the king divorce england from Rome.
a source: http://www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/mon41.html
quinton said:
You interpreted the message of Pope incorrectly!
When I read this, I thought that the population of world. But, in the link it says only about Canada.
The birth rate is high where poeple are poor. Once those nations also make political and economical reforms succesfully then the birth rate of those county also fall.
The rise in material standards of living brings sharp increases in the of population growth: the population explosion. But as material standards of living rises for above subsistence, countries begin to undergo the demographic transition.
Birth control means that those who don't wish to have more children can exercise their choice.Parents begin to find more satisfaction in having a few children and paying a great deal of attention to each.
In the world not all countiries have gone through their demographic transitions. Many countries are not rich enough to have begun the population growth declines seen in developped/industrialized countries.
Up until year 1800 human populations grew very slowly, and human living standards low. After 1800, there is a increase in living standards. And after 1800 population grew as the population explosion took hold. At first the rise in material standard of living brought sharp increases in rate of population growth: population explosion. But as material standard of living rose, countries began to undergo the demographic transition; population growth rates peaked and began to decline.
Contries with high population growth rate: above 2%
Congo
Iraq
Ethiopia
Pakistan
Tanzanie
NIgeria
Nepal
Sudan
Contries with low, below 0.5% or negative population growth rate.
Canada
France
Britian
Poland
Japan
Germany
Ukraine
with negative growth rate:
Russia
Spain
Italy
Birth control means that those who don't wish to have more children can exercise their choice.Parents begin to find more satisfaction in having a few children and paying a great deal of attention to each.
In the world not all countiries have gone through their demographic transitions. Many countries are not rich enough to have begun the population growth declines seen in developped/industrialized countries.
Up until year 1800 human populations grew very slowly, and human living standards low. After 1800, there is a increase in living standards. And after 1800 population grew as the population explosion took hold. At first the rise in material standard of living brought sharp increases in rate of population growth: population explosion. But as material standard of living rose, countries began to undergo the demographic transition; population growth rates peaked and began to decline.
Contries with high population growth rate: above 2%
Congo
Iraq
Ethiopia
Pakistan
Tanzanie
NIgeria
Nepal
Sudan
Contries with low, below 0.5% or negative population growth rate.
Canada
France
Britian
Poland
Japan
Germany
Ukraine
with negative growth rate:
Russia
Spain
Italy
Vereya said:
There are many areas in the world where the average life span of children is very low, and parents need to have many children in order to ensure that some of them live.
Also, in some of these cultures they believe that men require a male child in order to get into their heaven. As a result couples have child after child until they feel safe that they will have a living male child to usher them into the afterlife.
Catholicism, and other organized religions, play a big role in their attempt to limit birth control education. The Catholic Church actively distributes propaganda of misinformation among poverty ridden nations, punishing nations that choose not to participate by reducing or eliminating aid relief. This is also one of the main reasons for the spread of AIDS in Africa.
So basically you can blame religion and a lack of education. Which is a result of which is up to you to decide.
What religion is that? that requires male child in orger to get into heaven?
I've never heard about it.
However, in previous post I talked about the causes for population decline, whatever is not inverse to that automatically does not slow population growth.
I've never heard about it.
However, in previous post I talked about the causes for population decline, whatever is not inverse to that automatically does not slow population growth.
Re: RE: Is the Pope on crack?
Presumably god will take care of everything, as long as the multi-billions of humans follow the proper rituals as laid down by the church authorities. But if enough people fail at that (a virtual certainty), then god can indulge himself in another of those Old Testament style mass murders of the unrighteous. The proximate cause, of course, will be ecological suicide caused by a plague of humans on the planet, but really, the true explanation will be that god did it as punishment for us not behaving properly. He's done it before, many times according to the Old Testament. Faith can explain anything, without regard for facts.
But to answer the OP's question simply, as Finder implicitly suggested we should (sorry Finder, but a question like that just begs for a little hyperbole in the answer): no, the Pope isn't on crack. But he might as well be for all the sense he makes. He's just a silly shallow man who's lived a fairly privileged and sheltered life and is thus a little out of touch with reality.
And another thought: I can't be the only one who's noticed that birth rates seem to be highest where the status of women is lowest.
quinton said:
Presumably god will take care of everything, as long as the multi-billions of humans follow the proper rituals as laid down by the church authorities. But if enough people fail at that (a virtual certainty), then god can indulge himself in another of those Old Testament style mass murders of the unrighteous. The proximate cause, of course, will be ecological suicide caused by a plague of humans on the planet, but really, the true explanation will be that god did it as punishment for us not behaving properly. He's done it before, many times according to the Old Testament. Faith can explain anything, without regard for facts.
But to answer the OP's question simply, as Finder implicitly suggested we should (sorry Finder, but a question like that just begs for a little hyperbole in the answer): no, the Pope isn't on crack. But he might as well be for all the sense he makes. He's just a silly shallow man who's lived a fairly privileged and sheltered life and is thus a little out of touch with reality.
And another thought: I can't be the only one who's noticed that birth rates seem to be highest where the status of women is lowest.
Re: RE: Is the Pope on crack?
That's sick. Stupid, sexist, and sick. Wow, there's just nothing like organized religion for generating random folly and authoritarian nonsense.
LittleRunningGag said:
That's sick. Stupid, sexist, and sick. Wow, there's just nothing like organized religion for generating random folly and authoritarian nonsense.
Re: RE: Is the Pope on crack?
While I do agree with you about the organized religions, I don't think that preference for sons is a sexist thing. In a lot of countries everyday life is hard enough. A son would be a real help, an extra man in the household, to earn more money, or to do more work, whatever. And a daughter is just an extra mouth to feed until she gets married and leaves the family altogether. So, I don't know about heaven, but sons often make it a lot easier in this life.
Dexter Sinister said:
While I do agree with you about the organized religions, I don't think that preference for sons is a sexist thing. In a lot of countries everyday life is hard enough. A son would be a real help, an extra man in the household, to earn more money, or to do more work, whatever. And a daughter is just an extra mouth to feed until she gets married and leaves the family altogether. So, I don't know about heaven, but sons often make it a lot easier in this life.
Re: RE: Is the Pope on crack?
But that's the essential point, isn't it? A society organized in such a way as to favour sons, with daughters being second class, just a burden on the family until they leave and become a burden on someone else, seems seriously unbalanced and misguided to me. Biology has arranged things so that about equal numbers of males and females will be conceived*, and there's a reason for that. Needless to say, if everyone had only sons, there'd be no humanity pretty soon, so favouring one gender over another like that is ultimately self-defeating.
Time for the women to rise up and kick a few of the self-satisfied butts on the guys who think they're running things there... :lol:
*actually, slightly more males are conceived and slightly more of them die young, so the numbers stay about equal in the long term, as far as reproductive numbers go. There are a lot more old ladies than old men, but that's another issue.
Vereya said:
But that's the essential point, isn't it? A society organized in such a way as to favour sons, with daughters being second class, just a burden on the family until they leave and become a burden on someone else, seems seriously unbalanced and misguided to me. Biology has arranged things so that about equal numbers of males and females will be conceived*, and there's a reason for that. Needless to say, if everyone had only sons, there'd be no humanity pretty soon, so favouring one gender over another like that is ultimately self-defeating.
Time for the women to rise up and kick a few of the self-satisfied butts on the guys who think they're running things there... :lol:
*actually, slightly more males are conceived and slightly more of them die young, so the numbers stay about equal in the long term, as far as reproductive numbers go. There are a lot more old ladies than old men, but that's another issue.
Re: RE: Is the Pope on crack?
that's not happening. In contrast the population of those country is growing.
Dexter Sinister said:
that's not happening. In contrast the population of those country is growing.
That's only because modern "family planning" methods haven't been available in some of those places until recently. Contrast that with China where in some areas it is already becoming difficult for men to find wives because they outnumber them so much.
Read all the previous posts, put an add in the paper offering stud service, with conception being the goal of course. So far, not one reply.Damn it Popey, I'm a tryin. 8)
:idea:
Dexter Sinister said:
:idea: Thanks Dex: Never woulda thoughta thet ther :lol: :lol:
:? Why didn't I....................think.........of.....................
Ah well :roll: