Is The God Unjust?

look3467

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Bible is one of those contradictions in life. Some will proclaim it is Law ... then interpret from its text. If it truly is Law - would it not be clearly defined?

Wolf
The true law is written in evry heart, but not everyheart chooces to do right by it.

The law of Moses was given as a witness to the world by the Jews.

The rest of the world were a law unto themselves, yet contained the same elements as the Ten Cammandments.

So, it is a matter of who you are, where you are and what you believe in that enables us to choose.

What is a right choice? One that does no evil.

Peace>>>AJ
 

Dexter Sinister

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Well, I don't really know if god's unjust or not, I don't even know who or what he is, or even if he exists. I strongly doubt that he does, the available evidence doesn't seem to me to point that way, but I can't definitively state that he doesn't exist either, all I can say is that I don't believe he does. Which, I hasten to add in order to forestall the most common criticisms of that position (not that it's ever really worked) is not the same as believing that he doesn't. It seems clear to me that certainly some human concepts of god are pretty unjust, like the one that allows, perhaps even requires, believers to fly airplanes full of people into buildings full of people, or more generally the one that allows, perhaps even requires, believers to kill other people who believe differently than they do. History is full of examples of that kind of behaviour. "Thou shalt not kill" doesn't seem to carry much weight these days, and it doesn't look to me like it ever did. In practical terms that rule might be more accurately rendered as "Thou shalt not kill members of thine own family or tribe or belief community," anyone else is fair game.

There's really only one thing I'm sure of in this context: God, if he exists at all (which as I said, I strongly doubt) isn't remotely what anybody thinks he is.
 

look3467

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In Truth ,there are no choices.....Truth is Truth.
What is evil?
Evil is a present truth, much like a gun. The person having the gun could kill and hurt, given a choice.
Good is also a truth, much like love. The person having love will not kill or hurt, but instead would take the suffering.

These two things we all posses, but how we use them is the determing factor.

Peace>>>AJ
 

look3467

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Most certainly.

Without a concept of prayer, the only way I have of getting things done is to make sure I do them myself. :cool:
Without a concept of prayer, the only way I have of getting things done is to make sure I do them myself.>>>Daelin

That’s an age old adage that has worked as well.

But it also carries with it a sense of pride. And another adage is, pride goeth before the fall!

Be good, do good humbly, and pride will never touch you.

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look3467

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Evil is a mirror image of live
Devil is a mirror image of lived

Only in English, huh?

Wolf

Not quite sure how to read that. "Lived like the devil", but to live is evil?

Choice is having two options, where the options are not evil, but the intent is.

Intent is the seed, that if it blossoms becomes and action, and if it is an evil choice, evil is begotten.

Peace>>>AJ
 
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Without a concept of prayer, the only way I have of getting things done is to make sure I do them myself.>>>Daelin

That’s an age old adage that has worked as well.

But it also carries with it a sense of pride. And another adage is, pride goeth before the fall!

Be good, do good humbly, and pride will never touch you.

Peace>>>AJ
I understand your point, but you're assuming one thing: that because I don't pray and feel self-sufficient, I have quite a bit of pride. It's not pride, just self-sufficiency.

While it may be true that pride brings one's own downfall, a healthy dose of it is something I recommend every now and then.

And, in the long run, I prefer to ignore old adages, just stick with what feels right.
 

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I believe that these are totally unjust charges against the God.


The Bible specifically states that God is the exclusive creater of ALL evil: Isaiah 45:7. According to Islam, the Koran confirms the Bible as per Sura 10, Line 38.

Therefore, the charge that God is responsible for all these problem is biblically correct.
 

look3467

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I believe that these are totally unjust charges against the God.


The Bible specifically states that God is the exclusive creater of ALL evil: Isaiah 45:7. According to Islam, the Koran confirms the Bible as per Sura 10, Line 38.

Therefore, the charge that God is responsible for all these problem is biblically correct.

God is responsible for the introduction of evil to the flesh in order to enable the flesh to have a choice, but not the creator of evil.

Mankind with choice has the ability to create evil.
What restrains us from doing evil is good.

So, if you take care to do good always, then evil has no place in your life.

Peace>>>AJ
 

Dexter Sinister

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So, if you take care to do good always, then evil has no place in your life.
But who or what defines the good? I've no doubt you'd say it's god, but I don't believe in any god, and by any measure I understand I'm a good person. I've also no doubt you'd explain that as god working in me without my knowledge, but I don't believe that either. It's not necessary to invoke a deity to explain human morality and ethics, they follow quite naturally from our nature as social animals and the need to make rules about how we're going to get along with each other. Religious explanations are merely post hoc justifications of existing social conditions.