Is The God Unjust?

[look3467]

But who or what defines the good? I've no doubt you'd say it's god, but I don't believe in any god, and by any measure I understand I'm a good person. I've also no doubt you'd explain that as god working in me without my knowledge, but I don't believe that either. It's not necessary to invoke a deity to explain human morality and ethics, they follow quite naturally from our nature as social animals and the need to make rules about how we're going to get along with each other. Religious explanations are merely post hoc justifications of existing social conditions.

It is hard to explain without evoking the name of a diety, for around it rests all answers.

Each one of us has within a sense of goodness contrasted with the outer sense of lusts.

There is no discrimination on who it is, for all of us fall in that catagory.

If we excercised the goodness over the lusts that is without, we are good people.

Goodness is giving, lusts is taking.

Now religion is a vehicle by which understanding comes, the problem is that it can be man made religious manipulation which falls in the lusts catagory.

In your case, I judge that your a good man without the religious stigma, and by what I know and understand of God, your not alone in this world.

Much is required of me for my understanding of God, so I must be careful to lead and to guide gently, kindly and compasionately so as to represent who God realy is.

I believe that if you continue to do good to others that rewards follow.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[lone wolf]

If religion is a vehicle by which understanding comes, why are so many wars fought in its name? Would God not share the serenity of NOT keeping hearts enchained?

Wolf

 

[Dexter Sinister]

It is hard to explain without evoking the name of a diety, for around it rests all answers.

Actually, as Wolf has just implicitly pointed out, it's harder to explain if you *do* invoke a deity. In the simplest terms, if there's a deity orchestrating all this, he's doing a pretty poor job of selling the product, and if there isn't, it all becomes explicable as ordinary and predictable human failings.

 

[look3467]

Actually, as Wolf has just implicitly pointed out, it's harder to explain if you *do* invoke a deity. In the simplest terms, if there's a deity orchestrating all this, he's doing a pretty poor job of selling the product, and if there isn't, it all becomes explicable as ordinary and predictable human failings.

Both of you have a legitimate argument for truly; mankind has made a mess of religion.

But you see that that is why mankind needs saving, saving from its own destruction.

Having the choice between good and evil and being in the flesh is death. There is absolutely no way out without the help of an outside source.

Mankind can not prove its origin nor can it prove the existence of a God.

So it is as if mankind is left in limbo, between to extremes.

God is not responsible for mankind’s actions just as we are not responsible for the actions are kids make when they are over 18.

We are however responsible to them to hold their feet to the fire for their own salvation, otherwise the world will reap havoc with them.

The process of free will is what was desired of God when He gave mankind intelligence.

He also gave guide lines to follow in order to exercise this intelligent free will for the good.
Because the flesh is very powerful mankind has it for starters as a handicap that must be overcome.
Learning to manage within this handicap is the essences of growth and of which the end result is the goal.
That is why we need a source that inspires hope, which grants salvation as we struggle with the flesh to overcome the desires of the flesh and to rise above it to truly grasp the meaning of life.
I have studied the bible and many other religious views for the purpose of finding a common ground that would give mankind a ray of hope in such a world of mass confusion.
I would and could never find it if I looked solely at nature, this world and not anything outside this world such as God.
God gives me the answers to all my questions and properly, fitly and wonderfully, gives me a picture of how wonderful parent He is to His children in giving us freedom to express our own desires as we wish, yet without having the penalty of as if never existing, or in other words, eternal damnation.

The heart of compassion goes out to the world as I understand the confusion that exists, and therefore are ever gentle, kind and loving to those who have no understanding but need comforting.
That is my position as one who loves God and all His siblings, my brothers and my sisters who ever they are.

Peace>>>AJ

 

[akbar]

The God of universe is not god of any religion

This God or that God,

Of turban’s or the cap’s God,

Of west’s or the east’s God,

Of religion’s or the priest’s God,

Which God or whose God,

Not believe or choose God,

Temple’s God or minaret’s God,

Of not free but hostage’s God,

Not certain but uncertain God,

Of insane not of sane God,

If God is not only the God,

Not this God or that God.