Is the CBC bias??

Reverend Blair

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Oh and further more a tax cut is not corporate welfare!! It's a level playing field because of competions globally!!

How many jobs did GM just cut in the US? (a whole whack) What was the reason given? (something to do with health care costs) Why weren't Canadian plants directly affected? (public health care anyone?)

Here's a little bit of reality. Canadian corporate taxes are already incredibly low when compared to other developed nations. We are lower than the US. At the same time our social safety net means that corporations do not have to cover as many costs. So are further tax cuts corporate welfare? Yes.

Rev, the CBC is Bias!! I don't need polls etc to tell me that I see it constantly.

No, what you see is coverage that you do not agree with because it presents more than your side of the story.

Global ids a pro Liberal company and I don't see the same bias with them.

The Asper's have clearly been favouring the Conservatives since Izzy kicked the bucket. Even when Izzy was alive, they leaned so far to the right side of the Liberal party that their official stance was pretty hypothetical.

A lot of their coverage is opinion based...lots of editoral coverage disquised as a new item.

The vast majority of their coverage is hard news. No bias, just facts. The opinion and analysis always presents all sides of the story, or attempts to. There are an increasing number of cases where the radical right refuses to talk to the CBC, but that cannot be blamed on the CBC. They always state who they asked that refused to comment.

Many stories set a mood with sound or pictures before the story is read setting a certain tone before you even know what the story is.

By doing what? Showing pictures of dead Iraqi children? Showing Stephen Harper whining in the H of C once again?
 

RedFred

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Too all socialists out there. Alternate opinions is not whining and allowing people or corporations to keep their own money is not welfare. you would think that the lefties, who mastered both would be more astute.
 

RedFred

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And another thing, Who exactly is this radical right? anothe rdemon made up by the socialists.
 

Jay

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"How many jobs did GM just cut in the US? (a whole whack) What was the reason given? (something to do with health care costs) Why weren't Canadian plants directly affected? (public health care anyone?) "


So our public health care is corporate welfare..? :wink:
 

canuckster

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Who watches CBC?

Seriously, the CBC news is biased. They take the "green" side every time.
What network isn't biased? They all are.
 

ottawabill

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There you go..blah blah blah we are all fanatic right wingers, Stephen is a whiner etc etc. I am not a hard core Conservative but yes I am conservative by nature. I have no proplem with justified opinions of others as long as I am not just hearing repeated party line.

and I'm hearing the party line!!!
 

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Personally I do not think the CBC is bias at all. I actually find their news a lot better and informative and not one sided like Global and the american news networks.

We actually need the CBC, they do show great documentries and have very good programming like Fifth Estate, Venture, market place, Air Farce, Rick Mercer etc.

Yet priviate tv stations like ctv and gloabal especially (and chum to a lesser extent) are just american wannabe stations. When was the last time during prime time Monday to Friday that CTV or Global show any Canadian television programmes? If I want to watch American tv programs I will watch an American station. Whats the point of CTV and Global showing the same thing at the same time, other than for advertising dollars?

The CRTC needs to make Canadian TV stations to show more Canadian Content instead of showing 8-10 hours a day of news to meet their quota.

So in closing as it stands now on basic tv if I want to watch anything Canadian in the evening CBC is the only choice.
 

Reverend Blair

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You aren't hearing the party line, Bill...the NDP says the CBC is biased against it too. So do the Liberals. So do the Greens. So do the Christian Heritage Party. Are they biased against everybody? I'm gonna go way out on a limb and say that their lack of bias pisses everybody off.
 

ottawabill

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Ha thats funny..Of course I'll never convince you of anything otherwise..but you'll have to admit that they do things in such a non conformist way thay it makes for a paticular stream of audience. No1 above says the crtc should force the media to play Canadian stuff..geez they don't play it because no one wants to watch it!!! I the government wants to give a billion dollars, let the make movies and films with it at a class that people will watch!!

We don't watch U.S. tv because it's American we watch it because we like it. When Canadian tv does do it right..I'm thinking the old show Night Heat (ctv I think) we watched it..not because it was Canadian but rather because it was good!!....
 

Reverend Blair

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On one of the otyher CBC threads, I listed the shows (non-news) I watched on it in one week. They were all Canadian. They were all good. I don't watch them because I have to.
 

Jo Canadian

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The CBC is more than just television programs. Much of the money also goes to support its Radio. Not only that, as mentioned previously that the TV and espcially the radio is geared to many specific regions in Canada. So wherever you are you're going to find local news on the CBC not just something that covers the country as a whole and not touching info on the local level. Right now the CBC runs stations locally for the: North, BC, Edmonton, Calgary, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Thunder Bay, Sudbury, Windsor, Toronto, Ottawa, Montreal, New Brunswick, NS, PEI, aaand Newfi and Lab.

If these local stations weren't supported as a gov't initiative there wouldn't be radio and even tv available to certain areas in the country. I know that no private radio stations would try anything up north where I lived, there's not much for consumer demographics and If it wasn't for the CBC there would be NO radio whatsoever, and they wouldn't have gotten accessable TV until 1995.
 

ottawabill

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i HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH BEING ACCESSIBLE TO CANADIANS IT'S NOT THAT THE CBC IS THERE IT'S WHAT HOW THEY ARE BIAS!! SURE THIS COUNTRY IS SMALLER BY POPULATION AND LARGER BY AREA AND IS HARDER TO COVER WITH COMMUNICATIONS BY YOU ARE FORGETTING THAT WE HAVE INTERNET AND SATELITES MAKING A LOT OF YOU COMMENTS REDUNDANT. AS WELL I FIND CBC RADIO NOT SO MUCH BIAS AS LAME AND INEFFECTIVE..GOD KNOWS I'VE TRIED TO LISTEN TO IT..GAVE IT A CHANCE TIME AND TIME AGAIN.


oK REV..SO NOW I KNOW CBC HAS ATLEAST AN AUDIENCE OF ONE :)
 

AirIntake

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People that can only get CBC tv and radio probably can't get high-speed internet. Dial-up is no longer really an alternative anymore with all the flash and java crap on sites today.
 

ottawabill

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bull..I live in the country, I have dial up at home and us it!!

and this would be a reason for the federal govenment to spend a billion for their mouthpiece? They could spend a billion on high speed internet for far out areas!!!
 

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I suppose one could understand these narrow views, if they only listened to the cbc for politics. but millions of us know thats not true. Who pays for the national radio in other countries? Who pays for NPR and BBC... are americans whining about their national broadcast system?? I dunno, I will check.

Its not about the CBC bias or supposed bias, its about canada having a national broadcasting system paid for by taxpayers. Well sorry to burst you bubble, but there are millions of canadians that listen to the CBC for great programing about this country.

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Those are just a few, CBC is a wonderful bulletin board of all things canadian, people, places and things. I have heard conseravtives and others on the CBC, they make fools of themselves, is that cbc's fault?? I think not.
 

ottawabill

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yep thats great that you can pull off all the names a descriptions of the programming at CBC... Ok I'm joking they do get more than 1 viewer but they don't not get a mass audience. CTV new has consitantly higher ratings then CBC. I find then more fair with lots less editorial comment. There is no problem with editorals as long as we understand they are..this does not come across on the CBC.

Just so you understand me...There is a Radio station here in Ottawa CFRA (I'm sure they have a internet site?) They are very bias to the right. Yep I am a conservative and yep I agree with lots they say but I can see who slanted they are. If it was the only communication you coulod get you'd be sure the Liberals and NDP were toast ..maybe even fled the country and we are all living in a Right wing paridice....I can see this plainly..but if I dare mention that so media source does this on the opposite side all hell breaks lose!!!

To bash americans to make you smug and superior actually makes this country seem petty and small..this is thr constant theme on the CBC. Either in their comedies i.e An American in Canada, Rick Mercier's talking to American's or even on the news coverage..and you say they are not bias?? Maybe your glasses are just a bit to rose coloured!!
 

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Uh huh! I see...so now humor is not allowed...anything else?? gee wonder if I could find any bashing of canadians, oh well at least we can take it and have a good laugh at ourselves, at least some of us can.
Perhaps Saturday night live will have to go now to...they have the best satire on america. I repeat to you once again, I hear many conserative view on CBC in british columbia, as well as others. They make fools of themselves. Thats their own bloody fault.
 

Jo Canadian

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CTV new has consitantly higher ratings then CBC.

Again the CTV is using more of an american style template. Not that that's bad, it does have good canadian shows like corner gas. And anyways american style of shows is more popular nowadays in north america otherwise they wouldn't be airing them. The "different" themes in the CBC is at least something that's not mainstream and will at least give a variety in programming.

Every variety media has a bias or a particular slant....so then there's something for everyone. I'd be complaining about it if I had no other choice on what I could watch.

To bash americans to make you smug and superior actually makes this country seem petty and small..this is thr constant theme on the CBC. Either in their comedies i.e An American in Canada, Rick Mercier's talking to American's or even on the news coverage..and you say they are not bias?? Maybe your glasses are just a bit to rose coloured!!

I don't believe it's a constant theme. If Rick Mercers "talking to americans" was a seasonal show rather than a 1 hour only show, you'd have something to bark at. Say? wasn't due south poking fun at canadians? What about the editorials on Fox? I haven't heard CBC air anything derogatoy about fox the way Fox degrades CBC and other channels it doesn't approve of.
 

ottawabill

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Maybe it's the conservatives in Bc?? I dunno..Listen satire is a good thing but the CBC and I guess Canada in general alway turn it on the U.S. do we have an envy problem? Can we only be better then they if they are worse then us..It's sooo petty...To the rest of the world we look as stupid as the Northern Irish killing each other because on is one sect of the same religon as the other!!!

I'm not talking about Governments but rather day to day people who are being bashed quite constantly on the CBC. Boy would they scream in Canada if it was the other way arround on a federally funded media station.
 

ottawabill

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Jo Canadian said:
CTV new has consitantly higher ratings then CBC.


I don't believe it's a constant theme. If Rick Mercers "talking to americans" was a seasonal show rather than a 1 hour only show, you'd have something to bark at. Say? wasn't due south poking fun at canadians? What about the editorials on Fox? I haven't heard CBC air anything derogatoy about fox the way Fox degrades CBC and other channels it doesn't approve of.

But again I say CBC is a federally funding organization and since all tax payers pay for it it should show no to little bias.

Second as you said CTV has more viewers because of the model they use..They use that model because the people want it..something the CBC doesn't understand...you know being viable!!