Is the CBC bias??

ottawabill

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Reverend Blair said:
The CBC is much more than the main network or Newsworld too. They are, in fact, several radio networks in French and English, not to mention CBC north, which broadcasts in native languages. Their budget costs Canadians less than one 2-4 of beer per person each year. In areas where cable is not available, they are often the only source of electronic media, from children's educational programming to entertainment to sports coverage to news.

No private broadcaster will offer those services because no private broadcaster can make a profit from those services.

So exactly the point of being concerned about their Bias ways. If they are the only service in some locations they should be on a more level playing field. If some of these people only get the cbc then they also view the world thru the CBC's eyes..NOW THAT'S SCARY!!!

Ok I concede the panels are not always leftists but my point was more of..Why panels? Is it only the elite that can add value to a story..they forever pick out an expert at this or that to explain the situation..sounds very top down authority. If the CBC is so important and the people want it so much..why not be more like PBS ot TVO and have no commercials, take some government funding and ask the public at large for the rest?..Is this because 12 people are watching perhaps!!
 

Jay

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"One could argue that all network news is a dead issue now, and most people just don't watch any.I seldom even turn on my set."

Which is another great reason to privatise the CBC.
 

missile

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While we're at it,let's get rid of CTV,Global,etc.too. If all they are doing is rebroadcasting US programs to us,cut out the middleman and just let the Americans take over the airwaves.
 

Jay

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If they were paid for by tax dollars, I would agree.
 

The Philosopher

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I've always felt CBC was a little bias. My first hint was when they were talking about gay marriage. To represent the NDP/Liberal side they brought a professor who has written a million books on legal rights and equality. To the conservative side they brought in a seminarian... that's like a priest in training.
 

Jay

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I like the CBC and everything....I just don't like it so much that I think other people should pay for it through hard earned tax dollars.

I listen to CBC during the week in the morning, and Sundays if I remember to.

I like Michel Enright (sp)…. and Stewart McLean is a #$%! riot…..probably the best story teller I've ever hear....but he can't make money in the non tax dollar market....I doubt it.
 

Jay

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peapod said:
Why bring a priest in at all?? he is already bias from his book of myths....I won't even mention little boys.


One certainly couldn't say that the CBC was bias against religion....Sunday mornings often have that theme to them....and the music they play....and there isn't really any alternative to CBC sunday mornings.
 

Jay

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"FRIENDS of Canadian Broadcasting is an independent, Canada-wide, non-partisan voluntary organization supported by 60,000 households whose mission is to defend and enhance the quality and quantity of Canadian programming in Canada's audio-visual system. FRIENDS is not affiliated with any broadcaster or political party.".....

but we all vote Liberal!! :wink:
 

Jay

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Re: RE: Is the CBC bias??

ottawabill said:
but it says right on the site..to defend the CBC...

If there is nothing wrong why does it need a defence??


because the PM picks the president of the CBC maybe....not to mention the other board members...directly or indirectly....
 

Reverend Blair

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But it is the socialist Canadian government that does these forms of corporate welfare. It's policy at play here, nothing else.

Weren't you screaming about not getting your corporate tax cuts (more corporate welfare) just a little while ago?

It sure isn't the fault of the private media...

The way they promote the corporate agenda? Sure it is. They control the private media through both ownership and advertising dollars.

Good try, very inventive, but the fourth estate isn't a "mandate" it’s an idea.

They use our airwaves to sell us their crap. Since they are using our airwaves, they have a mandate to be fair and balanced, they are not. They have failed in their mandate.

The CBC's bias derives from its link to government.

Every developed country on the planet has a state broadcaster, except for USA. Only the BBC and CBC have an international reputation for unbiased journalism.

The USA does have PBS, which receives government funding although it is not state-owned, and the Bush government has been doing everything in their power to make PBS programming just another arm of their propaganda machine.

As such the CBC cannot, and doesn't really try, to represent the views of all Canadians.

Yes they do. That's why you see and hear panelists from all over the political spectrum. Just because they don't follow the example of private broadcasters and only represent your point of view does not them biased against you. They present your point of view as well as the others.

The polls you mention were not all commissioned by the CBC, in fact they were commissioned by various organisations within and without the media. Those polls were carried out by various polling companies, with and without connections to various parts of the political spectrum. Now read those polls, all of them. Look at the overall trends. The more the Harperites revealed themselves for what they are, the more people moved away from them. The CBC had nothing to do with that.

Oh by the way REV, where cable is not available, they use a new thing called satellite dishes. Again, no need for the CBC.

Yeah, because everybody can afford a satellite dish. :roll:

So exactly the point of being concerned about their Bias ways. If they are the only service in some locations they should be on a more level playing field. If some of these people only get the cbc then they also view the world thru the CBC's eyes..NOW THAT'S SCARY!!!

Except that no neutral agency has ever been able to show bias in the CBC's news coverage. They go out of their way to present all sides of the story. They check sources. They invite on guests from all sides of the political spectrum.

While we're at it,let's get rid of CTV,Global,etc.too. If all they are doing is rebroadcasting US programs to us,cut out the middleman and just let the Americans take over the airwaves.

That's an idea. If they can't air Canadian content and Canadian voices at least half the time, why the hell are they controlling our airwaves?

I've always felt CBC was a little bias. My first hint was when they were talking about gay marriage. To represent the NDP/Liberal side they brought a professor who has written a million books on legal rights and equality. To the conservative side they brought in a seminarian... that's like a priest in training.

Could it be that no self-respecting author could defend the anti-gay stance? Could it be that the religious right are the ring-leaders of the homophobic anti-SSM marriage campaign? Yup.
 

Jay

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Reverend Blair said:
Weren't you screaming about not getting your corporate tax cuts (more corporate welfare) just a little while ago?

If I get a tax cut from personal taxes I don't consider that welfare...why would I consider a corporate tax cut welfare? I don’t think the government should be handing money to corporation though...


The way they promote the corporate agenda? Sure it is. They control the private media through both ownership and advertising dollars.

But it is all private...the corporate agenda is (as it should be) to make money...not to get votes for a political party.

They use our airwaves to sell us their crap. Since they are using our airwaves, they have a mandate to be fair and balanced, they are not. They have failed in their mandate.

You would have to show me this "mandate"...is it from the CRTC?

Every developed country on the planet has a state broadcaster, except for USA. Only the BBC and CBC have an international reputation for unbiased journalism. .

And the others?

Yeah, because everybody can afford a satellite dish. :roll:

I would have to say that in areas where a service cannot be provided the CBC makes sense to have....people have to be able to function in a democracy, and they need information....otherwise state run media is a bad idea.


PS: the air waves belong to Canadians, and Canadians get to use them, and Canadians own corporations….
 

ottawabill

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Rev, the CBC is Bias!! I don't need polls etc to tell me that I see it constantly. Global ids a pro Liberal company and I don't see the same bias with them. I would surely notice it since I am not Liberal. I have watched and listened to BBC as as much as I don't alway agree with their coverage I don't find them Bias either..but the CBC is in your face bias, A lot of their coverage is opinion based...lots of editoral coverage disquised as a new item. Many stories set a mood with sound or pictures before the story is read setting a certain tone before you even know what the story is. Sometimes setting you up to be discusted before you have a clue.

I watch many different newscasts check many different web sites and look at 3 local papers each day, only CBC continually shows its true colours as a socialist government mouth piece.
 

ottawabill

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Oh and further more a tax cut is not corporate welfare!! It's a level playing field because of competions globally!!

Handing a company a ton of cash to keep workings in Quebec happy is welfare!!