Is recognition that Jews have the best ideology of the Abrahamic cults the reason Mus

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Even that little but is too much for you mind.

As usual you didn't answer the question. Is being exiled for corrupt usury practices persecution or an act of protecting the citizens of a country??

Christianity has been off the rails since about 400AD, part of that was a 1,000 invasion of the Mid-East where, wait for it, the Muslims lived. Your thinking is more warped than usual, not that it matters.

Introducing 3 groups and only focusing on the one, while ignoring the crimes of the other two groups, seems like persecution. I can understand how that concept might be foreign to your intellect.
 

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"so many traditions are fabricated and not authentic"


I agree but that last quote was from your Qur'an.


So you are saying that women are not equal to men.


Thanks for the honesty.

You are not seeking after the truth; only you want to overcome in the wrangling.
So cite the aya and we shall see its meaning, and I told you there are some points of equality and other points of difference, and you took the point of difference.
Therefore, I will give the meaning of every aya which anyone mentions.

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Therefore, this is the interpretation of the aya 2: 228
{Divorced women shall wait [in home, before marrying another man] for three [menstrual] periods b.
It is not lawful for them to conceal what [fetus] God has created in their wombs
c, if [truly] they believe in God and the Last Day d.
And their husbands have the right better [than others] to restore them in such case
e, if the [husbands] likes to set things properly f.

And [wives] have rights [over their husbands] similar to those [of their husbands] over them, with appropriate way
g; but the men have an authority [to be obeyed] over them h.

God is All-Mighty
i, Most Wise j.}
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228 b i.e. she shall stay at home waiting [without marrying another man] until three menstruations will elapse; while the woman who has no menstruation, then her waiting time will be three months; according to His saying – be glorified – in the Quran 65 : 4, which means:
(As for your women who have despaired of further menstruation [because of a disease or affliction], if you are in doubt [concerning their pregnancy], their prescribed period [or interim or Idda] shall be three months, as [shall the interim be of] those [old women or after the menopause] who menstruate not.)
It means: Either of 'women who have despaired of further menstruating [e.g. because of a disease]', and '[old women] who menstruate not' at the time of divorcing them; each one of all such women has (the Idda: or the stated period) of three months.

228 c Because some of divorced women hates her husband, therefore she conceals her pregnancy lest she should be returned to her husband after the divorce; or because she loves another man whom she likes to marry, so she conceals her pregnancy: because the husband has the right to restore his divorced wife in case she is pregnant, and she has no right to refuse that even after elapsing of the Idda :) the stated time following the divorce.)
While the non-pregnant whose Idda has elapsed, the choice will be of the wife: if she agrees to return, she may return to him; and if she likes to marry another man, then she will marry as she likes.

228 d i.e. if truly she believes in God and in the judgment and punishment of Doomsday, then she must not conceal her pregnancy, because God will punish her. This sentence is for frightening and threatening with punishment for the divorced women who conceal their pregnancy.
The "Last Day" is Doomsday, which has been explained in the Quran 126.

228 e i.e. the husband of the divorced woman is more worthy – than others are – to restore her during the period of the Idda, and more worthy of her if she is pregnant even though after the Idda, but on condition …if the [husband] likes to set things rightly.

228 f between them and their wives with friendly dealing, giving the Nafaqa [: the due money of the divorce] and offering her the required dresses as he can afford.

228 g i.e. with the proper thing that the husband can afford: like the Nafaqa [: the due money of the divorce], the dressing, the good friendly dealing, spending the night with her, so that he does not leave her and go to the adulteresses [and prostitutes], and he should not betray her with adultery or homosexuality, just as he dislikes that she may betray him.

228 h i.e. the wife should obey her husband, so that she does not go out of the house unless he allows her to do so, and she should obey him and comply to his orders excepting that which God forbids; but in case she disobeys his orders, then she is a Nashiz (i.e. haughty disobedient.)

228 i In His kingdom: He punishes those who contradict His statements.

228 j With His statements, so that He does not command you but only with that which is proper for you.

http://quran-ayat.com/pret/2.htm#a2_228
quran-ayat(dot)com/pret/2(dot)htm#a2_228

Therefore, see you who wrangles: .

And [wives] have rights [over their husbands] similar to those [of their husbands] over them, with appropriate way


Is recognition that Jews have the best ideology of the Abrahamic cults the reason Muslims and Christians hate Jews?

What have I to do with Jews or Christians? In fact I have nothing to do with Jews or Christians.

While the thing is that Zionists have transgressed on Palestine and on the Arab and Muslims.

 
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Even that little but is too much for you mind.

As usual you didn't answer the question. Is being exiled for corrupt usury practices persecution or an act of protecting the citizens of a country??

Christianity has been off the rails since about 400AD, part of that was a 1,000 invasion of the Mid-East where, wait for it, the Muslims lived. Your thinking is more warped than usual, not that it matters.

Introducing 3 groups and only focusing on the one, while ignoring the crimes of the other two groups, seems like persecution. I can understand how that concept might be foreign to your intellect.



All three groups have skeletons in their closets and that is why I ignore them and focus on the better ideology in trying to find out exactly why Christians and Muslims hate Jews.


Get on topic or get lost.


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DL

You are not seeking after the truth;



You on the other hand, are trying to hide the truth of the fact that Islam and Sharia are making slaves out of Muslim women.


http://news.vice.com/article/rape-v...tal-sex-laws-in-the-uae?utm_source=vicenewsfb




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DL
 

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Essentially, Christians and Muslims do not hate Jews, but it is Jews who hate Christians and Muslims.

An outstanding example, one may see in this forum, that once I mention the Quran, Prophet Mohammed or the Muslims ... when you will see your Zionists jump like fleas and shout their hatred and rancor. And by all means they work to disfigure the picture of the Islam and Muslims before people.

So why should I hate Jews .. because they do not believe? Of course I dislike the disbelief, but essentially I hate the Zionists who transgress on Palestinians, on the Arab and on Muslims, and in fact all our conflicts and problems and massacres have issued from them.

Moreover, not all Jews are bad; some of them were good neighbors (before the coming of the Zionists), as are many Christians good citizens and neighbors.

In addition, the people generally in many parts of the world dislike Jews, not because they are Jews but because of their bad conduct and their evil, like the famous character of Shylock.
 

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Essentially, Christians and Muslims do not hate Jews, but it is Jews who hate Christians and Muslims.
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Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"


Yet few Christians and Muslims are killed by Jews while many Jews have been killed by Christians and Muslims.


Are you just a Kafir trying to make Muslims look bad?
You are doing a great job.


Regards
DL








 
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Quran (2:228) - "and the men are a degree above them [women]"
Yet few Christians and Muslims are killed by Jews while many Jews have been killed by Christians and Muslims.
Are you just a Kafir trying to make Muslims look bad?
You are doing a great job.
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DL









Truly, it is you the kafir and the devil.
 

MHz

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Can't take it that this thread is also a fail like all your other ones?? Maybe a little bigger than the others.
 

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You cannot discuss anything with Nassir. He is incapable of critical thought. It has to be in the Quran or it cannot discussed. Nassir is a lemming.

He supports a religion that suppresses women and free thought. He supports the killing of ANYONE who is not Muslim and will not convert. He supports the actions of ISIS. He lies when needed. A quick search will show his hatred of Jews, Christians, women and anyone else who dares to question his book of lies. These people become "ugly Zionists".

It truly is pointless to talk to him. Nassir=taqiyya.
 

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Can't take it that this thread is also a fail like all your other ones?? Maybe a little bigger than the others.



Point to your winning ones.


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DL

You cannot discuss anything with Nassir. He is incapable of critical thought. It has to be in the Quran or it cannot discussed. Nassir is a lemming.

He supports a religion that suppresses women and free thought. He supports the killing of ANYONE who is not Muslim and will not convert. He supports the actions of ISIS. He lies when needed. A quick search will show his hatred of Jews, Christians, women and anyone else who dares to question his book of lies. These people become "ugly Zionists".

It truly is pointless to talk to him. Nassir=taqiyya.


Indeed. The more fundamental and literal a believer is, the less tolerant he will be of all others.


One who is not a free thinker and is an idol worshiper is not good at debate or discussion as they cannot tolerate any who are not as brain dead as they are.


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DL