Is it time to increase speed limits?

mentalfloss

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Go with the flow and you should be fine.

A limit increase really isn't necessary.
 

#juan

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What's the necessity for all this speed? For some commercial vehicles such as freight trucks I can see it. For the rest of us just leave home 10 minutes earlier. I've seen idiots risk their lives, my life and other motorists lives in a big rush to pass everyone and then a mile up the road they turn in to their driveway.

The speed of the bulk of the traffic is determined to some extent by how fast people want to go. Back in the sixties speed limit on major highways was seventy mph. Since then cars have been made safer, brakes have been improved, tires have been improved, suspensions have been improved, and now you want to lower the speed limit to less than it was fifty years ago. On the German Autobahns there is no speed limit to speak of and they are safer than our highways.
 

petros

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Are the bulk aware of Newton? If it's icy and the sign says 130 km/h can you go 130km/h or are you limited to what Newton's law allows?

The bulk ain't bright enough.
 

#juan

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Go with the flow and you should be fine.

A limit increase really isn't necessary.

In Ontario most people are already driving close to 120kph on major highways. Speed limits make cash cows for the insurance companies.since they want to increase your insurance rates for every ticket you get.
 

#juan

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Are the bulk aware of Newton? If it's icy and the sign says 130 km/h can you go 130km/h or are you limited to what Newton's law allows?

The bulk ain't bright enough.

On dry roads 130kph may be completely reasonable whereas on icy roads 40kph might not be safe......You are still required to use the old grey matter.
 

mentalfloss

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In Ontario most people are already driving close to 120kph on major highways. Speed limits make cash cows for the insurance companies.since they want to increase your insurance rates for every ticket you get.

I think it's fair that you get ticketed if you are on your own or going against the flow of traffic. Increasing the speed limit will just cause a greater variance between slow and fast vehicles and that would increase the chance of an accident.

What is better for traffic and safer for everyone is if there is less variation in speed between vehicles.
 

petros

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Do you really believe the bulk will drive within the limits of conditions or will they go the God given right to 10km/h above the limit while drinking hohos?
 

#juan

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I think it's fair that you get ticketed if you are on your own or going against the flow of traffic. Increasing the speed limit will just cause a greater variance between slow and fast vehicles and that would increase the chance of an accident.

What is better for traffic and safer for everyone is if there is less variation in speed between vehicles.

Two years ago I drove out of the Toronto airport heading for Soux Saint Marie. I was driving on the middle lane and I had traffic flying by on both sides, honking and flashing lights and I was doing a hundred and ten kph. I speeded up to 120 kph and most of the problems went away.
 

mentalfloss

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Do you really believe the bulk will drive within the limits of conditions or will they go the God given right to 10km/h above the limit while drinking hohos?

I don't believe I states what I believe the public will do without any change to the status quo.

Two years ago I drove out of the Toronto airport heading for Soux Saint Marie. I was driving on the middle lane and I had traffic flying by on both sides, honking and flashing lights and I was doing a hundred and ten kph. I speeded up to 120 kph and most of the problems went away.

Well there you go.

Problem solved.
 

petros

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Two years ago I drove out of the Toronto airport heading for Soux Saint Marie. I was driving on the middle lane and I had traffic flying by on both sides, honking and flashing lights and I was doing a hundred and ten kph. I speeded up to 120 kph and most of the problems went away.
You didn't see the sign that said "Slow Traffic Keep Right"?
 

Twila

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I some times think that truck manufacturers should install speed limiters in their vehicles. Just because the truck can go that fast, does not mean it should go that fast.

Here, in BC, many truck drivers drive their trucks like there race cars. It's like they think they're driving the worlds only F350 Mclaren 4x4

Maybe a less cushy ride would help slow some down some drivers. If they could feel the road they might realize they haven't got the traction they think they have.
 

JLM

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The speed of the bulk of the traffic is determined to some extent by how fast people want to go. Back in the sixties speed limit on major highways was seventy mph. Since then cars have been made safer, brakes have been improved, tires have been improved, suspensions have been improved, and now you want to lower the speed limit to less than it was fifty years ago. On the German Autobahns there is no speed limit to speak of and they are safer than our highways.

Yeah, vehicles are improving, it's the f**kin' nuts behind the wheel that are deteriorating!

You can only go as fast as the guy ahead of you.

As long as you stay 3 seconds behind him!

I some times think that truck manufacturers should install speed limiters in their vehicles. Just because the truck can go that fast, does not mean it should go that fast.

Here, in BC, many truck drivers drive their trucks like there race cars. It's like they think they're driving the worlds only F350 Mclaren 4x4

Maybe a less cushy ride would help slow some down some drivers. If they could feel the road they might realize they haven't got the traction they think they have.

When you are hauling stuff like produce, Twila, you have to get it to the consumer while it's still fairly fresh.
 

Twila

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Yeah, vehicles are improving, it's the f**kin' nuts behind the wheel that are deteriorating!



As long as you stay 3 seconds behind him!



When you are hauling stuff like produce, Twila, you have to get it to the consumer while it's still fairly fresh.

Sorry, I meant regular trucks. Not haulers. Maybe I should have said Penile extensions...
 

#juan

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Sorry, I meant regular trucks. Not haulers. Maybe I should have said Penile extensions...

You got that right. Most of these flashy four by fours spend their entire lives in a two car garage and they'll never see anything but a half hour commute and very little produce is ever hauled in an F-350 four by four.
 

Kreskin

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I was amazed how sane the highways were in Oregon. The rules of the road ensure the commercial trucks can only use certain lanes and must drive slower than cars. Cars do 70 mph. Yet even when you come across highway maintenance they only reduce the speed to 60 or at the most 50 mph.

In Canada, at least in BC, the trucks are aggressive. The car speed limit is too slow. It becomes every man for himself, where no one obeys the law. The unwritten rule of the road becomes the speed limit being however fast you can get to the vehicle ahead of you, before others pass in pursuit of the same objective.

Then there is the issue of highway patrol. When you drive through, for example, the Hope-Princeton highway there are barely a few crickets on the road, yet you'll always find hidden cop traps. It's crazy. And everytime you come across highway maintenance they slow everyone down to a crawl and bottleneck everything.
 
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