Is It Time To Change To Piecework Or Base Salary Plus Bonus?

[Liberalman]

Is It Time To Change To Piecework Or Base Salary Plus Bonus?

If it’s good enough for the owners of companies to get paid per items sold or per service contracts then is it time to start paying employees the same way?

Getting paid by piecework or base salary plus bonus levels the playing field for the company where when time are good everyone gets paid well but when time are not good then people get paid less instead of managers getting the big bonuses and the workers gets laid off.

Over the years companies tried this but paid little to make it worthwhile for the worker so hire salaries are paid.

If implemented properly people would get paid more because of their productivity and working together as a team.

Piecework works, ask any sales person they get paid by piecework in their industry it is known as a commission.

 

[petros]

Craziness.

 

[L Gilbert]

Commissions/retainers/contractual/etc. work for some things but not others.
http://twayneking.hubpages.com/hub/Pros-Cons-of-Commission-Based-Careers

 

[SLM]

Commissions/retainers/contractual/etc. work for some things but not others.
http://twayneking.hubpages.com/hub/Pros-Cons-of-Commission-Based-Careers

What??? You say, one size does not fit all???

Say it ain't so!

 

[L Gilbert]

What??? You say, one size does not fit all???

Say it ain't so!

lol No. Work isn't a pair of socks.

 

[lone wolf]

Piecework's natural enemy is unscheduled maintenance....

 

[TenPenny]

Piecework works, ask any sales person they get paid by piecework in their industry it is known as a commission.

Sales person in what industry?

 

[petros]

Firefighters too?

 

[SLM]

Firefighters too?

Or doctors? Or morticians? Yikes, I'd really hate to see how that lot would 'drum up more business'! 8O

 

[petros]

Good way to get kids working. 1000 gopher or ground squirrel tails can get you a new Radio Flyer.

 

[Liberalman]

Or doctors? Or morticians?

Doctors get paid by the patient and tests ordered and morticians get paid per service

 

[L Gilbert]

Doctors get paid by the patient and tests ordered

which results in faster appointments and lower quality care. Instead of spending a half hour with a patient and learning about them, a doctor will trim appointments to 10 minutes. It's assembly line medicine. Not good.
Try thinking before making comments like that.

 

[Liberalman]

which results in faster appointments and lower quality care. Instead of spending a half hour with a patient and learning about them, a doctor will trim appointments to 10 minutes. It's assembly line medicine. Not good.
Try thinking before making comments like that.

In a perfect world we would have a bigger supply of doctors and they can talk to us for a half hour but we don't we have a limited suppy of doctors for and ever growing amount of patients. There is a lot of doctors driving taxi cabs because our government is too lazy to certify them after they met all the qualifications to get into this country

 

[L Gilbert]

In a perfect world we would have a bigger supply of doctors and they can talk to us for a half hour but we don't we have a limited suppy of doctors for and ever growing amount of patients. There is a lot of doctors driving taxi cabs because our government is too lazy to certify them after they met all the qualifications to get into this country

And you think commission is the way to fix the poor quality medical services and certifying those immigrant doctors? roflmao

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Thats the current model where I work -- base + Xmas bonus. Bonus is based upon company performance and team performance and your contribution to the team. In theory at least.

Issue is of course measurement. For those not in a sales job, or a production line, where sales or units produced can be measured, this could be a stikling point.

 

[coldstream]

It's time to dump Free Trade. so workers don't have to compete with the $1 an hour wages of Maquilladoras... which provide a subsistence wage only for the teeming squatters slums that surround them. We had a system that worked, with fair wages, benefits, security, pensions until Free Trade destroyed Canada's industrial economy.

 

[TenPenny]

In a perfect world we would have a bigger supply of doctors and they can talk to us for a half hour but we don't we have a limited suppy of doctors for and ever growing amount of patients. There is a lot of doctors driving taxi cabs because our government is too lazy to certify them after they met all the qualifications to get into this country

Wow, you know just about zero about that issue.

 

[taxslave]

Is It Time To Change To Piecework Or Base Salary Plus Bonus?

If it’s good enough for the owners of companies to get paid per items sold or per service contracts then is it time to start paying employees the same way?

Getting paid by piecework or base salary plus bonus levels the playing field for the company where when time are good everyone gets paid well but when time are not good then people get paid less instead of managers getting the big bonuses and the workers gets laid off.

Over the years companies tried this but paid little to make it worthwhile for the worker so hire salaries are paid.

If implemented properly people would get paid more because of their productivity and working together as a team.

Piecework works, ask any sales person they get paid by piecework in their industry it is known as a commission.

Shake and shingle mills have worked on this method since before I was born. Unions are the biggest reason it doesn't happen too much although even some union logging companies have used a bonus system. Most auto mechanics are paid the same way except when they make a mistake it is fixed on their own time.
The biggest problem is that it only works well when a person makes a complete product, if there are multiple workers on an item it can be difficult.

It's time to dump Free Trade. so workers don't have to compete with the $1 an hour wages of Maquilladoras... which provide a subsistence wage only for the teeming squatters slums that surround them. We had a system that worked, with fair wages, benefits, security, pensions until Free Trade destroyed Canada's industrial economy.

Boy are you ever wrong.

 

[damngrumpy]

We are supposed to be achieving human progress not regress.
I think there are some situations where piece work can be done
but we need good paying steady jobs. Not just for employees,
but communities need the tax revenue and more people can
afford homes and consumer goods.
The problem with piece work and bonus systems is not just the
maintenance issues, its subject to any number of abuses.

 

[lone wolf]

My biggest issue with piece work was in hauling by ton-mile, I set a pace the hourly-paid guys had to keep up with. When you're owner/operator, you've got to operate to own....