Is Everyone Happy With Our New Government??

the caracal kid

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Well, you certianly have your rose coloured glasses on tonight, Hank.

I would not count on so much happening when Harper is essentially the minority in the House.
 

Hank C

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Re: RE: Is Everyone Happy With Our New Government??

the caracal kid said:
Well, you certianly have your rose coloured glasses on tonight, Hank.

I would not count on so much happening when Harper is essentially the minority in the House.

Well, if you were looking at it from the context of the last 2 weeks than you do feel a little disappointed at the results, but honestly at the begenning of the election and even before christmas I was expecting a very small Tory govt or possibly a loss. Thus if I had missed the campaign after Christmas and jsut tuned in tonight, I would of been extremely pleased.
 

Hank C

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What about the NDP socialists, are you people happy with the results, I beleve you gained 9 more seats so it shouldent be too bad for you guys. I was predicting 25-30 seats for the NDP so I was close.
 

tracy

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I was surprised at how many seats the Liberals actually got. I thought it would be lower. I am happy that the leftist parties have enough seats that the Conservatives can't go too crazy unchallenged.

I am dissapointed as always that percentage of the vote doesn't mean anything regarding seats. It's always annoyed me that the Bloc gets like 10% of the vote which works out to more than 50 seats, then the NDP which got 17% of the vote gets less than 30...

For you all talking about currency, the Canadian dollar lowering would be a huge piss off to me. I've been whining ever since I moved to the US and started paying my Canadian student loan with American dollars, the Canadian dollar surged in value. I blame this on Bush, just like everything else (I think he's also responsible for me running out of icedtea tonight and for stubbing my toe this morning)... If it goes down now after I've finally paid that off, I will be choked. I'd rather see a pointless vote on SSM than see the Canadian dollar plunge now.
 

annabattler

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Actually,Marilyn Churley resigned her provincial seat...and since she lost last night,she's not holding any type of elected seat.
You can be sure,though,she'll get some type of job within the NDP,either federally or provincially.
 

Cosmo

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Re: RE: Is Everyone Happy With Our New Government??

zoofer said:
Too bad for Canada the Cons did not get a huge majority. Any meaningful change will be snookered by the Old Socialist Party.

But some house cleaning should occur.

Lucky for me they ain't homophobes, eh Zoof ;) :color:

Well, congrats to you ... and the rest of the right folks at the forum. The only real bright side I can see here is that some of my friends will be happy. That and maybe we'll be able to talk about something else here at the forum other than politics one day soon. :sleepy2:

I'd be doing a happy dance if it had gone my way, but it is what it is. At least they didn't get the majority so I don't have to pack up and move outta the country. :) At least the correct candidate made it in my riding. ;)

Ever the optimist here ... maybe they'll straighten out all that dumb gun law b.s. we've had to tolerate!! :dontknow: Am willing to give them a chance till they do something stupid, although I'm not confident that time is far off, given the history.
 

Machjo

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nitzomoe said:
doubt it, first axe that will be swing is to federal power, by means of harper selling his soul to the bloc to get a majority.

Hope so :D
 

S-Ranger

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Re: RE: Is Everyone Happy Wit

nitzomoe said:
doubt it, first axe that will be swing is to federal power, by means of harper selling his soul to the bloc to get a majority.

It could be done. But the "liberals" and NDP won too many seats for that. And if they have any brains they'll form a coalition opposition to play the ridiculous games the "conservatives" reform-alliance did, with far fewer seats than the "liberals" have on their own. They need 30 seats/votes to pass anything and could fall on the speech from the toilet.

We all wanted a summer election anyway, not this waste of time over nothing but BS politicking.

It'll be over in less than a year. Then we can all try to figure out, yet again, why we have a confederate mess such as we do in the first place.

And put an end to its sorry existence.

No one sane could possibly have hoped for a better result. Aside from the very narrow margin the "conservatives" won by, Stronach won the war. What did the Neanderthol party have to say about "him" again?

Bu-bu-but-MM-MM-Martin is washed up and made an ass of himself. It can't even speak anymore, without well-rehearsed speeches written by others; and teleprompters. Stronach will be the next PM of the Canadas in less than a year if they have any brains.

She won the war. Harper won a little battle and didn't get far with it.
 

S-Ranger

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the caracal kid said:
well, we all know how mob mentality works. Harper played the plebs perfectly. Lets hope that canada does not meet the same fate as the rats when they followed the Pied Piper.

I've been trying to think of a way to explain that little tidbit. Thanks.
 

pastafarian

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I for one am pretty happy! Although, I'd have liked to see the NDP and Cons together have enough for a majority. The Libs weren't spanked nearly hard enough and that creep Ignatieff won. Anne MacLellan lost: yay! The Bloc was reduced and a Federalist party (even if it was the Cons) made inroads in Quebec. Gotta love that if you love the country!

The Cons have a minority, which is the only kind of Con government to have :wink: , so Cosmo, I doubt Harper will risk his Prime Ministership on SSM, since he has bigger fish to fry and probably won't want to rock the boat. If he had a majority, I'd be worried for you.

The NDP did much better than I predicted (nice to see the husband and wife team in the House), we don't have a Con majority... yup, i'm looking forward to the next 2-3yrs. :lol: :lol:
 

S-Ranger

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Re: RE: Is Everyone Happy Wit

Freethinker said:
Alberta'sfinest said:
I'm happy.

I'm also glad that the NDP got a few more seats, as they are the best social conscience to a conservative government.

Here's the thing. The NDP still didn't get enough seats to be relevant. The current combined NDP+Conservative count is not a majority.

The real power broker is the the Block.

The real power broker is the 103 seats the "liberals" have, and they can and probably will add another 29 to that with a coalition NDP opposition; as long as they stay focused on the cities.
 

iamcanadian

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The only way this result can have any effect is if the Torys and Bloc join forces. Otherwise the same group will make all decisions and this becomes a symbolic result with the same old same old status quo preserved.
 

TenPenny

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Harper will have to walk a fine line. He won't be able to do much of anything radical. He can work with the NDP on election reform, he can work with the Bloc on some issues...I can't see how the Bloc would form any significant coalition with the Conservatives, since the CPC took seats from the Bloc.

I think it will be interesting - Harper will be prevented from doing the radical things some might want, because he will have to navigate that middle ground. It will probably work out very well.
 

MMMike

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On the whole I am happy with the result. I'm a little surprised at the Liberal strength - I expected them to get beat down to less than 90 seats. I'm glad to see the Bloc slip, and Conservatives gain in Quebec. This shows that there is a new federalist alternative there. Pettigrew, Valeri, McLennan, esp. Martin - don't let the door hit you on the way out.

I don't see an election anytime soon. I think the Bloc should support some of the Conservative's Plan for respecting jurisdiction and addressing the fiscal imbalance. No party wants to pay the price of forcing another election so soon (although personally, I'd go vote every day of the year).
 

S-Ranger

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Hank C said:
Surprisingly I am happy how the election turned out.....yes towards the end people were predicting a much larger CPC govt but we will still be able to push most of our agenda through....certainly a lot sunnier than it was under the Liberals.

.....honestly if you go back to the start of the election many of us conservatives expected a small minority or even a loss....so this result is jsut fine with me.

Who is "we," "our," "us?" Hmm?
 

Jay

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So I don't need to pay your lawn a little visit.... :)