Is America bringing freedom to North Carolina & Oregon & Minnesota?
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I'm curious. How would the round up go? Baited with cash? Kittens? Free golf?
How? How would it done in a kinder gentler way?
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The way Obama or Biden did it. They both beat Trump's first-term deportation numbers.
What we need is an overhaul of our immigration system. But Congress is too lazy, gutless, and too busy yelling at each other (or kissing Dementia Donny's ass) to do their damn job.
Kids in cages didn't go over very well under Obama.
Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
Donald Trump has left an interviewer baffled with his bizarre response to a question about the shooting deaths of Renee Nicole Good and Alex Pretti.
Speaking to NBC Nightly News anchor Tom Llamas at the White House on Wednesday (4 February), the US president said that whilst he was “not happy with the two incidents”, he resented the bad publicity that ICE was getting.
“Nobody talks about all of the murderers that we’re taking out of our country,” he said, before pivoting the conversation to the US’ “very tough” presence in the Caribbean sea to target alleged drug boats.
A puzzled Llamas responded: “The — the — the waters?”, to which Trump said: “If you look at the waters where we knock out boats.”
“Oh,” Llamas replied.
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Speaking to NBC Nightly News anchor Tom Llamas at the White House on Wednesday (4 February), the US president said that whilst he was “not happy with the two incidents”, he resented the bad publicity that ICE was getting.
“Nobody talks about all of the murderers that we’re taking out of our country,” he said, before pivoting the conversation to the US’ “very tough” presence in the Caribbean sea to target alleged drug boats.
A puzzled Llamas responded: “The — the — the waters?”, to which Trump said: “If you look at the waters where we knock out boats.”
“Oh,” Llamas replied.
‘The water?’ Trump leaves interviewer baffled with answer on Minneapolis killings — The Independent
Donald Trump has left an interviewer baffled with his bizarre response to a question about the shooting deaths of Renee Nicole Good and Alex Pretti.
It can be kinda fun watching old guys go fucking full retard.
OK, not so much fun when they hold the nuclear triggers.
OK, not so much fun when they hold the nuclear triggers.
The text messages a Border Patrol agent sent to colleagues and family members after he repeatedly shot a Chicago woman in October can be released to the public, a federal judge ruled Friday. In messages previously made public, the agent bragged about his marksmanship.
U.S. District Judge Georgia Alexakis stated in court that the text messages provide insight into the agent’s and the Department of Homeland Security’s credibility, as well as into how DHS leadership perceived the shooting.
The agent, Charles Exum, shot Marimar Martinez five times on Oct. 4, after she allegedly rammed her car into agents’ vehicles. Martinez denies ramming them and said agents were the aggressors. Exum did not have his body camera turned on during the incident.
In one text message previously released, he bragged about his shooting skills, writing: “I fired 5 rounds and she had 7 holes. Put that in your book boys.”
Government lawyers argued that the release of Exum’s text messages would further sully the agent and his family.
The judge pushed back. “I don’t know why the United States government has expressed zero concern for the sullying of Ms. Martinez’s reputation,” Alexakis said.
Martinez’s attorney, Chris Parente, said his team would work over the weekend with government lawyers on redactions, and Martinez’s legal team would be releasing the evidence no earlier than Monday.
Martinez pleaded not guilty in October to Justice Department charges that she used her vehicle “to assault, impede, and interfere with the work of federal agents in Chicago.” The government dropped its case against Martinez, but her lawyers say officials have refused to correct the record after branding her a “domestic terrorist.”
The judge ruled Friday that more evidence in Martinez’s case could be made public, including emails, text messages, investigative reports and statements by higher ranking DHS officials. Martinez's lawyer said these will shine a light on their thinking and how they are instructing their officers.
As part of this ruling, body camera footage from an agent who was in the vicinity of the shooting can also be released, as well as photos and reports from after the crash and audio from Martinez’s 911 call.
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Alexakis noted that DHS has not publicly addressed that they dropped the case with prejudice — meaning they cannot seek to charge her in the case in the future.
In court filings, Parente wrote that recent fatal shootings in Minnesota show why the evidence in Martinez's case is important to the public interest.
“Based on recent events in Minneapolis, Minnesota, involving the execution of two U.S. citizens who were engaged in similar peaceful protests as Ms. Martinez at the time of their killings, Ms. Martinez believes certain information disclosed in her case, and currently subject to the Protective Order, would be useful for both the public and elected officials to know regarding how DHS responds in cases where their agents use deadly force against U.S. citizens,” he wrote.
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Parente also laid out a series of high-ranking officials in the Trump administration who had made misstatements about Martinez.
That included an Oct. 6 post FBI Director Kash Patel shared from a different account that included a video on X that read: “This is the video where Marimar Martinez, aka La Maggie, rammed a white DHS vehicle who had their emergency lights on. Another DHS black SUV then attempts to ram Marimar’s SUV from behind. One DHS agent is on the passenger side firing shots. Democrats are insane.”
As of early Friday, Patel had not taken down that post.
Martinez’s attorneys also asked for the release of Flock surveillance camera footage from 30 days before the shooting — arguing that it would show her engaged in everyday activities and rebut DHS’ statements that she has a history of doxxing federal agents and ambushing them.
The judge ruled in favor of releasing that footage but not license plate reader camera data, saying it would have “little value” to clear Martinez's name.
At one point during the court hearing, Parente said there would be no need to release any of the footage if the U.S. government publicly said that Martinez is not a domestic terrorist. The judge said the court wasn’t expected to handle negotiations such as that.
After the hearing, lawyers for Martinez said they will continue to fight to clear her reputation.
“You can’t call a U.S. citizen with no criminal history who’s a Montessori school teacher a domestic terrorist, which is such a loaded word in this country, and repeat it over and over as late as yesterday,” Parente said.
U.S. District Judge Georgia Alexakis stated in court that the text messages provide insight into the agent’s and the Department of Homeland Security’s credibility, as well as into how DHS leadership perceived the shooting.
The agent, Charles Exum, shot Marimar Martinez five times on Oct. 4, after she allegedly rammed her car into agents’ vehicles. Martinez denies ramming them and said agents were the aggressors. Exum did not have his body camera turned on during the incident.
In one text message previously released, he bragged about his shooting skills, writing: “I fired 5 rounds and she had 7 holes. Put that in your book boys.”
Government lawyers argued that the release of Exum’s text messages would further sully the agent and his family.
The judge pushed back. “I don’t know why the United States government has expressed zero concern for the sullying of Ms. Martinez’s reputation,” Alexakis said.
Martinez’s attorney, Chris Parente, said his team would work over the weekend with government lawyers on redactions, and Martinez’s legal team would be releasing the evidence no earlier than Monday.
Martinez pleaded not guilty in October to Justice Department charges that she used her vehicle “to assault, impede, and interfere with the work of federal agents in Chicago.” The government dropped its case against Martinez, but her lawyers say officials have refused to correct the record after branding her a “domestic terrorist.”
The judge ruled Friday that more evidence in Martinez’s case could be made public, including emails, text messages, investigative reports and statements by higher ranking DHS officials. Martinez's lawyer said these will shine a light on their thinking and how they are instructing their officers.
As part of this ruling, body camera footage from an agent who was in the vicinity of the shooting can also be released, as well as photos and reports from after the crash and audio from Martinez’s 911 call.
Border Patrol agent's texts after he shot a Chicago woman five times will be released, judge rules — NBC News
The government dropped its case against Marimar Martinez but her lawyers say it has refused to correct the record after calling her a “domestic terrorist.”
In court filings, Parente wrote that recent fatal shootings in Minnesota show why the evidence in Martinez's case is important to the public interest.
“Based on recent events in Minneapolis, Minnesota, involving the execution of two U.S. citizens who were engaged in similar peaceful protests as Ms. Martinez at the time of their killings, Ms. Martinez believes certain information disclosed in her case, and currently subject to the Protective Order, would be useful for both the public and elected officials to know regarding how DHS responds in cases where their agents use deadly force against U.S. citizens,” he wrote.
Border Patrol agent's texts after he shot a Chicago woman five times will be released, judge rules — NBC News
The government dropped its case against Marimar Martinez but her lawyers say it has refused to correct the record after calling her a “domestic terrorist.”
That included an Oct. 6 post FBI Director Kash Patel shared from a different account that included a video on X that read: “This is the video where Marimar Martinez, aka La Maggie, rammed a white DHS vehicle who had their emergency lights on. Another DHS black SUV then attempts to ram Marimar’s SUV from behind. One DHS agent is on the passenger side firing shots. Democrats are insane.”
As of early Friday, Patel had not taken down that post.
Martinez’s attorneys also asked for the release of Flock surveillance camera footage from 30 days before the shooting — arguing that it would show her engaged in everyday activities and rebut DHS’ statements that she has a history of doxxing federal agents and ambushing them.
The judge ruled in favor of releasing that footage but not license plate reader camera data, saying it would have “little value” to clear Martinez's name.
At one point during the court hearing, Parente said there would be no need to release any of the footage if the U.S. government publicly said that Martinez is not a domestic terrorist. The judge said the court wasn’t expected to handle negotiations such as that.
After the hearing, lawyers for Martinez said they will continue to fight to clear her reputation.
“You can’t call a U.S. citizen with no criminal history who’s a Montessori school teacher a domestic terrorist, which is such a loaded word in this country, and repeat it over and over as late as yesterday,” Parente said.
American citizens shot dead by the goons is worse, to my way of thinking. But I know it's all the same to you.
Officers from a wide range of agencies – Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) most prominently, but also Border Patrol, the Bureau of Prisons and others – usually with faces covered and no visible identification, trawl the streets in unmarked vehicles to conduct immigration raids and arrests that often look like kidnappings.
Their tactics have included ramming and smashing up cars, racially profiling as they search for people to arrest, and pushing residents to inform on their neighbours. Agents have also clamped down on protests, frequently opening fire with pepper balls, deploying tear gas and arresting demonstrators.
After federal officers fatally shot U.S. citizens Renee Macklin Good and Alex Pretti last month, the White House promised to wind down the operation.
But it is pressing ahead with its plan to deport all of the country’s undocumented immigrants, as well as many who entered the country with legal status. And there is no guarantee Mr. Trump won’t soon target another city or state.
ICE, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and their parent organization, the Department of Homeland Security, did not respond to requests for comment on this story.
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DHS, primarily through Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP), has authority under 8 U.S.C. §§ 1357 and 1226 to arrest individuals suspected of violating federal immigration laws. While ICE can arrest noncitizens in public spaces without a warrant based on probable cause, they are “generally prohibited” from seizing U.S. citizens.
Clayton Kelly, a mechanic in his 20s, said he did nothing more than verbally criticize federal agents before they violently arrested him. On the morning of Saturday, Jan. 24, shortly after Mr. Pretti was shot in South Minneapolis, Mr. Kelly went to the area with his wife. “Your families are disappointed in you,” Mr. Kelly told The Globe and Mail he said to officers. “You’re a disgrace and you should quit.”
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Mr. Kelly had begun walking away when heard one agent say “that’s him, get him.” Officers body-slammed Mr. Kelly into the window of a tattoo parlour, tackled him to the ground and put him in a headlock, he said. Several agents held him down, kneeing him in the spine and smothering him. “I was trying to yell out that I couldn’t breathe, and they were telling me to shut up,” he recalled.
As he lay pinned, Mr. Kelly said, an officer put the nozzle of a can of pepper spray behind his glasses and shot it directly into his left eye. He was bundled into a vehicle and driven to the Whipple Federal Building near the airport, which agents are using as a detention centre.
For the next 10 hours, he was held in a roughly 12-foot-by-10-foot cell with a concrete bench and no sink or toilet. This section of the building was reserved for U.S. citizens, Mr. Kelly said, and he was eventually joined by several others. He said officers never identified themselves to him or read him his Miranda rights.
In the hallway outside the cell, Mr. Kelly could hear officers searching people’s belongings and taking their mobile phones. At one point, an agent had Mr. Kelly confirm which phone was his. When he was released without charges that night, Mr. Kelly said officers refused to give him back the device and said they planned to go through it. Something-something four amendment.
Ten days before his arrest, Mr. Kelly had witnessed part of a police chase that ended with an ICE agent shooting Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis, a Venezuelan migrant, in the leg. Mr. Kelly recorded the aftermath and described what he saw to a reporter. His images of the scene are on the phone he said agents confiscated. Ahhhh….
On Wednesday, the White House said it would start withdrawing “some” of its ICE agents from Minneapolis, “but said that officers have a responsibility to enforce the law.” (???)
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The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its under-umbrella agencies (such as ICE and CBP) cannot legally "ignore" the Fourth Amendment to the Constitution. The Fourth Amendment protects all people in the U.S. from unreasonable searches and seizures, regardless of citizenship status, in theory.
However, the legal application of the Fourth Amendment to DHS is complex, as courts have recognized broader authority for federal agents in immigration and border enforcement compared to local police, particularly in areas near the border, or lately in areas not near the border. Minneapolis, Minnesota, is located approximately 310 to 315 miles (about 500-507 km) south of the Canadian border.
Their tactics have included ramming and smashing up cars, racially profiling as they search for people to arrest, and pushing residents to inform on their neighbours. Agents have also clamped down on protests, frequently opening fire with pepper balls, deploying tear gas and arresting demonstrators.
After federal officers fatally shot U.S. citizens Renee Macklin Good and Alex Pretti last month, the White House promised to wind down the operation.
But it is pressing ahead with its plan to deport all of the country’s undocumented immigrants, as well as many who entered the country with legal status. And there is no guarantee Mr. Trump won’t soon target another city or state.
ICE, U.S. Customs and Border Protection and their parent organization, the Department of Homeland Security, did not respond to requests for comment on this story.
ICE arrests in Minneapolis increasingly look like kidnappings. Fearful locals are planning accordingly — The Globe and Mail
Masked agents using unmarked cars are breaking glass, whisking away shoppers and harassing citizens
Clayton Kelly, a mechanic in his 20s, said he did nothing more than verbally criticize federal agents before they violently arrested him. On the morning of Saturday, Jan. 24, shortly after Mr. Pretti was shot in South Minneapolis, Mr. Kelly went to the area with his wife. “Your families are disappointed in you,” Mr. Kelly told The Globe and Mail he said to officers. “You’re a disgrace and you should quit.”
Mr. Kelly had begun walking away when heard one agent say “that’s him, get him.” Officers body-slammed Mr. Kelly into the window of a tattoo parlour, tackled him to the ground and put him in a headlock, he said. Several agents held him down, kneeing him in the spine and smothering him. “I was trying to yell out that I couldn’t breathe, and they were telling me to shut up,” he recalled.
As he lay pinned, Mr. Kelly said, an officer put the nozzle of a can of pepper spray behind his glasses and shot it directly into his left eye. He was bundled into a vehicle and driven to the Whipple Federal Building near the airport, which agents are using as a detention centre.
For the next 10 hours, he was held in a roughly 12-foot-by-10-foot cell with a concrete bench and no sink or toilet. This section of the building was reserved for U.S. citizens, Mr. Kelly said, and he was eventually joined by several others. He said officers never identified themselves to him or read him his Miranda rights.
In the hallway outside the cell, Mr. Kelly could hear officers searching people’s belongings and taking their mobile phones. At one point, an agent had Mr. Kelly confirm which phone was his. When he was released without charges that night, Mr. Kelly said officers refused to give him back the device and said they planned to go through it. Something-something four amendment.
Ten days before his arrest, Mr. Kelly had witnessed part of a police chase that ended with an ICE agent shooting Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis, a Venezuelan migrant, in the leg. Mr. Kelly recorded the aftermath and described what he saw to a reporter. His images of the scene are on the phone he said agents confiscated. Ahhhh….
On Wednesday, the White House said it would start withdrawing “some” of its ICE agents from Minneapolis, “but said that officers have a responsibility to enforce the law.” (???)
Why Target is under fire over Minnesota ICE raids — BBC News
Workers are writing letters, staging strikes and in some cases resigning over how bosses are handling the immigration crackdown.
However, the legal application of the Fourth Amendment to DHS is complex, as courts have recognized broader authority for federal agents in immigration and border enforcement compared to local police, particularly in areas near the border, or lately in areas not near the border. Minneapolis, Minnesota, is located approximately 310 to 315 miles (about 500-507 km) south of the Canadian border.
- Warrantless Home Entries: In early 2026, a major debate arose regarding a reported May 2025 memo authorizing ICE agents to enter private homes without a judicial warrant, using only administrative warrants (signed by ICE supervisors, not judges).
- Legal Challenges: Constitutional scholars, lawmakers, and civil rights groups argue that using administrative warrants to enter a private home without consent is a violation of the Fourth Amendment. A federal judge in California previously ruled that ICE administrative warrants do not authorize entry into homes.
- "Reason to Believe": Under immigration law (INA § 287(a)(2)), agents can make warrantless arrests if they have "reason to believe" a person is in the U.S. illegally and likely to escape.
- The "Border Search Exception": CBP has broader authority within 100 air miles of any U.S. "external boundary" to conduct searches and stops without a warrant, which has been upheld by courts as a reasonable exception to the Fourth Amendment.
- "Kavanaugh Stops": Recent legal analysis has highlighted an increase in ICE discretion to use race or ethnicity as a factor for stopping and questioning people in the interior, which critics argue challenges longstanding Supreme Court rulings against profiling.