Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

[Socrates the Greek]

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the President of Iran said, Iran trusted the European Union in 2003 and suspended its nuclear activities, but the Europeans ultimately said Iran must not enrich uranium at all.

"We won't be bitten twice," Ahmadinejad said, referring to an Iranian proverb about not repeating a mistake.

"We recommend that you not sacrifice your interests for the sake of others," he said, in what AP said was an apparent warning to the EU about supporting the position advocated by the United States.


Some analysts say the more US rhetoric is stepped up, the greater incentive there is for Iran to move ahead. Already, said Mr Albright, “fear of a US military strike seems to have led them to accelerate their P-1 programme.”


Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would love to repeat what Hitler did to the Jews; he publicly stated that the Jews must be removed from the Middle East. Nuclear capability for Iran would be the unthinkable in the Middle East. Just imagine the Jews attacked with a nuclear bomb what would happen in the Middle East.

 

[dekhqonbacha]

I don't think that Iran will produce nuclear weapon.
If they wanted to do so, they wouldn't enrich uranium publicly. They would do so in hidden ways and at the end they would publicly declere it. Then all this trouble wouldn't exist. The only solution for entire world would be to respect Iran as they do with Pakistan and India.

 

[Jay]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,154244,00.html

“We received news from a very valuable source within the Iranian regime,” said Solemani, who worked for more than a decade to expose Iran's nuclear program.

That message, if true, was explosive in more ways than one.

It was either "the biggest breakthrough that we have had in terms of opening up the secret of the Iranian nuclear program … or it's a hoax,” said Solemani, who is a senior member of the Paris-based National Council of Resistance in Iran (NCRI) (search).

It wasn't a hoax.

His secret sources identified two sites — one in the town of Arak and one in Natanz — that were massive plants, disguised as anti-erosion facilities. Instead, the sources said, the two facilities were the heart of an advanced, clandestine nuclear weapons program.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

I don't think that Iran will produce nuclear weapon.
If they wanted to do so, they wouldn't enrich uranium publicly. They would do so in hidden ways and at the end they would publicly declere it. Then all this trouble wouldn't exist. The only solution for entire world would be to respect Iran as they do with Pakistan and India.

dekhqonbacha, respect is a good think for people who understand the meaning of the word respect. The Iranian regime is the most extreme right wing thinking ruling party on the planet, extreme right thinking joined with religious fanaticism is the most potent and hateful way of thinking on the face of our planet. The real difficulty facing the world today is that if India, Pakistan, are allowed to have their nuclear capability Iran is asking why not us, a legitimate question. The truth is when you know a person is mentally unstable do we grant them a licence to carry a gun?

 

[dekhqonbacha]

Socrates the Greek
how about North Korean, Pakistani regime. India is more democratic and is responsible for what it does.

I should have put "respect" into quotation. Can US attack North Korea? No, of course, because they got nuclear bomb. How about Pakistan? no, of course, because they are "respectful" countries.

But, Iran is not going their ways. It's building an energy source for it's own country.

If they wanted to build a nuclear bomb, why wouldn't they do that secretly and announce it once it was built? like north korea and pakistan and india?

Then all these discussion wouldn't take place.

US would doulbe think before considering atacking Iran, because of it's nuclear arsenal.

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

I don't think that Iran will produce nuclear weapon.
If they wanted to do so, they wouldn't enrich uranium publicly. They would do so in hidden ways and at the end they would publicly declere it. Then all this trouble wouldn't exist. The only solution for entire world would be to respect Iran as they do with Pakistan and India.

dekhqonbacha, respect is a good think for people who understand the meaning of the word respect. The Iranian regime is the most extreme right wing thinking ruling party on the planet, extreme right thinking joined with religious fanaticism is the most potent and hateful way of thinking on the face of our planet. The real difficulty facing the world today is that if India, Pakistan, are allowed to have their nuclear capability Iran is asking why not us, a legitimate question. The truth is when you know a person is mentally unstable do we grant them a licence to carry a gun?

So, Socrates, hater of war, what do we do about it?

Yapping solves nothing.

 

[dekhqonbacha]

Colpy
the best defence is attack. You put him in trouble.

 

[Jersay]

dekhqonbacha you make really good points.

 

[dekhqonbacha]

Jersay
really?
I didn't know that.
then can I be proud of myself?

 

[dekhqonbacha]

I just wrote what popped up to my mind

 

[Jersay]

Yes you should.

I really liked your point

Socrates the Greek
how about North Korean, Pakistani regime. India is more democratic and is responsible for what it does.

I should have put "respect" into quotation. Can US attack North Korea? No, of course, because they got nuclear bomb. How about Pakistan? no, of course, because they are "respectful" countries.

But, Iran is not going their ways. It's building an energy source for it's own country.

If they wanted to build a nuclear bomb, why wouldn't they do that secretly and announce it once it was built? like north korea and pakistan and india?

Then all these discussion wouldn't take place.

US would doulbe think before considering atacking Iran, because of it's nuclear arsenal.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

I don't think that Iran will produce nuclear weapon.
If they wanted to do so, they wouldn't enrich uranium publicly. They would do so in hidden ways and at the end they would publicly declere it. Then all this trouble wouldn't exist. The only solution for entire world would be to respect Iran as they do with Pakistan and India.

dekhqonbacha, respect is a good think for people who understand the meaning of the word respect. The Iranian regime is the most extreme right wing thinking ruling party on the planet, extreme right thinking joined with religious fanaticism is the most potent and hateful way of thinking on the face of our planet. The real difficulty facing the world today is that if India, Pakistan, are allowed to have their nuclear capability Iran is asking why not us, a legitimate question. The truth is when you know a person is mentally unstable do we grant them a licence to carry a gun?

So, Socrates, hater of war, what do we do about it?

Yapping solves nothing.

Colpy telling the truth is not Yapping, laughing at the truth is yapping,

What do we do about war? Well, we can start by understanding why countries go to war with one another. Some of the reasons are, to invade and install new Government in a country, much like the US invading Iraq, or some countries go to war because of religious differences, or much like Sadam did to Kuwait, strategic military positioning in the event of a world war, all that for a self interest to insure a better life through greed and disseat.

The Capitalistic method of life is a justified method when one chooses to talk about bettering them self’s through commerce rather than digging ditches in order to afford good things in life. The problem we face our self’s with is that greed is a condition which can attack some people in such a way that it causes the people affected by this condition to exploit others in order to gain. The Middle East Osama’s and company have gotten angry at Imperialism that has the ruthless approached of exploitation with what ever means, through peace or war. And seeing the history of mankind we see a repetition of how exploitation has been there since the beginning of time. The more people are exposed to this dilemma the angrier Osama’s we will see come out of the woods.
Unless we strop exploiting the poor we will always be at war with one another. Stupid isn’t it?

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

Socrates the Greek
how about North Korean, Pakistani regime. India is more democratic and is responsible for what it does.

I should have put "respect" into quotation. Can US attack North Korea? No, of course, because they got nuclear bomb. How about Pakistan? no, of course, because they are "respectful" countries.

But, Iran is not going their ways. It's building an energy source for it's own country.

If they wanted to build a nuclear bomb, why wouldn't they do that secretly and announce it once it was built? like north korea and pakistan and india?

Then all these discussion wouldn't take place.

US would doulbe think before considering atacking Iran, because of it's nuclear arsenal.

The one thing is for sure there will be a big war one day in the Middle East and Ill tell you it wont be a conventional war it will be nuclear mess, the hypocrisy here is if the Jews would say publicly we want to flush Iran in to the Ocean, than Iran would declare a nuclear war if they had nuclear capability. It is interesting how the Jews have nuclear capability and yet they are not talking about blowing Iran out of the face of the earth.

 

[FiveParadox]

I fear you may be speaking with undue ambiguity, Socrates the Greek. Saying that "the Jews have nuclear capability" is like saying that "the Muslims have nuclear capability", or "the Buddhists have nuclear capability." It doesn't make any particularly high degree of sense, in my opinion.

 

[Socrates the Greek]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

I fear you may be speaking with undue ambiguity, Socrates the Greek. Saying that "the Jews have nuclear capability" is like saying that "the Muslims have nuclear capability", or "the Buddhists have nuclear capability." It doesn't make any particularly high degree of sense, in my opinion.

Five Paradox, this is fact, the Iranian president publicly has stated that the Jews should be removed from the Middle East and flashed out to the ocean.

Now what would have happened if the Jews had made such statement publicly to flush Iran in to the Ocean while Iran lets assume it already had nuclear capability, what would you think Iran would do? Obviously declare war against the state of Israel, and the point I am making is that the Jews are a much friendlier society than that of the Iranians. Of course the entire Iranian population doesn’t think that the Jews should be removed from the Middle East, and did you know that the Iranian dictatorship has ordered all immigrants to wear a yellow banner over their cloths to identify their origins and the Jews have to wear such banner other wise they get fined. I hope you get my point FiveParadox.

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

I fear you may be speaking with undue ambiguity, Socrates the Greek. Saying that "the Jews have nuclear capability" is like saying that "the Muslims have nuclear capability", or "the Buddhists have nuclear capability." It doesn't make any particularly high degree of sense, in my opinion.

Five Paradox, this is fact, the Iranian president publicly has stated that the Jews should be removed from the Middle East and flashed out to the ocean.

Now what would have happened if the Jews had made such statement publicly to flush Iran in to the Ocean while Iran lets assume it already had nuclear capability, what would you think Iran would do? Obviously declare war against the state of Israel, and the point I am making is that the Jews are a much friendlier society than that of the Iranians. Of course the entire Iranian population doesn’t think that the Jews should be removed from the Middle East, and did you know that the Iranian dictatorship has ordered all immigrants to wear a yellow banner over their cloths to identify their origins and the Jews have to wear such banner other wise they get fined. I hope you get my point FiveParadox.

Israel just said exactly this:

Vice Premier Shimon Peres said Monday that "the president of Iran should remember that Iran can also be wiped off the map."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1145961301962


And iran didnt declare war on israel.

 

[jimmoyer]

So what's you point, Aeon ?

Did not Iran rattle its saber first with very public
threats ??

Is your point that Israel will respond in kind ?

Even if Israel deserves such rhetoric from Iran, aren't
you the same one that is against such rhetoric by the
United States about other dictatorships.

Aren't you the one who says it is not right to condemn
and threaten or anihlate or invade dictatorships, that
it's none of any other country's business to interfere ?

 

[Naci_Sey]

Some analysts say the more US rhetoric is stepped up, the greater incentive there is for Iran to move ahead. Already, said Mr Albright, “fear of a US military strike seems to have led them to accelerate their P-1 programme.”

Source?

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad would love to repeat what Hitler did to the Jews; he publicly stated that the Jews must be removed from the Middle East.

The two statements aren't equivalent. Hitler wanted to exterminate the Jews, no matter where they lived. Ahmadinejad - and many other Persians and Arabs - wants them out of the Middle East.

The real difficulty facing the world today is that if India, Pakistan, are allowed to have their nuclear capability Iran is asking why not us, a legitimate question. The truth is when you know a person is mentally unstable do we grant them a licence to carry a gun?

The real difficulty facing the world today is that if India, Pakistan and the USA are allowed to have their nuclear capability - and the US escalates the issue by developing and testing bunker buster technology (nuclear-armed underground missiles) -, then Iran has a legitimate concern. And to which "mentally unstable" head of state are you talking about, Ahmadinejad or Bush?

 

[aeon]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

So what's you point, Aeon ?

Did not Iran rattle its saber first with very public
threats ??

Is your point that Israel will respond in kind ?

Even if Israel deserves such rhetoric from Iran, aren't
you the same one that is against such rhetoric by the
United States about other dictatorships.

Aren't you the one who says it is not right to condemn
and threaten or anihlate or invade dictatorships, that
it's none of any other country's business to interfere ?

My point is just hypocryte to condemn statement from iran, when israel does just the same,however it was a big mistake from iran leaders to have said such thing in the first place, but what can you expect from extremist? Falling into their game, would be stupid from the west, cause this is exactly what they want.

 

[Nuggler]

Re: RE: Iran's Adolf Hitler, president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

[quote=" The truth is when you know a person is mentally unstable do we grant them a licence to carry a gun?[/quote]

George Bush probably has a licence to carry a gun.

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