Iran War. . . USA Up 2-0 in the First Period

petros

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The United States has heavily reinforced its military presence across the Middle East outside the immediate Persian Gulf, with over 50,000 troops and significant air and naval assets focused on Iran. Major deployments include carriers in the Arabian Sea, air strike wings in Jordan, and thousands of personnel in Kuwait, Iraq, and Saudi Arabia.

Key U.S. military forces currently outside the Persian Gulf include:
  • Naval Forces (Arabian Sea & Region): The USS Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Groupand the USS Gerald R. Ford are operating in the Arabian Sea. Numerous destroyers and combat ships are stationed in the Red Sea and Eastern Mediterranean.
  • Air Power (Regional Bases):
    • Jordan: A major buildup of F-15E Strike Eagle fighters is located at Muwaffaq Salti Air Base.
    • Qatar: Al Udeid Air Base hosts advanced air defense systems (Patriot and THAAD) and aircraft, alongside allied RAF Typhoon jets.
    • Turkey: Incirlik Air Base remains a major hub.
  • Ground and Special Forces (Regional Bases):
    • Kuwait: Over 13,500 personnel, including troops at Camp Buehring, act as a staging post.
    • Iraq & Syria: Approximately 2,500 troops in Iraq and 2,000 in Syria, operating at locations such as Ain al-Asad and Erbil.
    • Saudi Arabia: Approximately 2,700 personnel supporting air defense.
    • Jordan: Roughly 3,800 troops, excluding Air Force personnel.
These forces are designed for immediate response, with reports of "tens of thousands" of troops, air defenses, and carrier groups designed to provide firepower from the Mediterranean to the Arabian Sea.
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With the mountains in Iran to the north of the strait, Iran will (at least initially, & that might be all it needs) have the high ground…until jets arrive. If Iran is willing to sacrifice (one use and dispose of) whatever it throws at the Strait of Hormuz, repeatedly a few times, it’ll “probably” make the insurance companies veto any passage of the strait.
Iran blew the fuck out of those bases.

70 US aircraft have been shot down or destroyed on the ground. They were left undefeated.
 

petros

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(YouTube & Trump says US to blockade ships crossing Strait of Hormuz)

Trump with his middle of the night toilet tweets on truth social is also saying that other countries aside from America are going to be blockading that Strait without saying who they are. That’s curious all by itself.
He bullshits constantly.
 

Ron in Regina

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Trump with his middle of the night toilet tweets on truth social is also saying that other countries aside from America are going to be blockading that Strait without saying who they are. That’s curious all by itself.
Key details on international involvement:
  • Initial Hesitation: Earlier in the crisis, Germany and Greece officially ruled out military participation.
  • Potential Support: Trump has suggested that countries heavily reliant on oil passing through the Strait—such as Japan, South Korea, and the UK—would join the U.S. effort to keep the waterway open.
  • GCC Partners: The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has previously indicated a willingness to join a U.S.-led military effort to secure the strait.
  • Minesweeping Focus: While some countries are reluctant to join a direct blockade of Iranian ships, there is more potential for cooperation in mine-clearing operations to secure navigation.
Current Situation
As of April 12, 2026, following the collapse of peace talks, the U.S. Navy has been instructed to interdict any vessel that has paid a toll to Iran, effectively creating a blockade of Iranian-influenced traffic.
The situation remains highly volatile, with both China and Russia expressing opposition to the blockade.
70 US aircraft have been shot down or destroyed on the ground. They were left undefeated.
Summary of 2026 Conflict Losses (April 2-5 so this is a week old):
  • F-15E Strike Eagle: 1 Shot Down.
  • MC-130J: 2 Destroyed on ground.
  • MH-6 Little Bird: 4 Destroyed on ground.
  • MQ-9 Reaper Drones: ~16 total reported lost during the campaign.
The figure of 70 appears to be an unverified or vastly exaggerated number not supported by credible, independent, or mainstream Western reporting from the scene…which can mean something or nothing.

Anyway, looks like Trump is gonna try & ‘Cuba’ Iran financially & that’s only taken 3/4’s of a century so far. By imposing additional costs on Iran’s foundering economy, Mr Trump is seeking to force the capitulation that Tehran resisted at the negotiating table, blockading the strait & making Iran use $30,000 drones to eat through million dollar American missiles.

The decision also suggests a greater sense of urgency than his earlier insouciance implied.
"Whether we make a deal or not makes no difference to me. The reason is because we've won," Trump said? Oh yeah, ok.
Saturday, the president contended he did not care about the outcome, insisting the United States had already triumphed on the battlefield by killing Iranian leaders and destroying key military infrastructure.
As Mr Vance was emerging to admit defeat, Mr Trump was at a sports arena in Miami, watching a mixed martial arts fight with Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state.

It made for an incongruous split-screen. As the vice-president, a man with little negotiating pedigree, attempted to explain the collapse of the talks, Mr Rubio, America’s most senior diplomat, was watching a video montage of topless men thumping each other.

Yet Mr Trump cannot easily walk away while Iran continues to choke the world’s most important artery, through which – in normal times – a fifth of global oil supplies pass. The counter-blockade is an attempt to seize back the initiative.
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Gulf states, whose economies are already under strain, had hoped Mr Trump would use force to reopen the strait. A second blockade may not be what they had in mind. Nor are global markets likely to take kindly to a further escalation when trading opens on Monday. Fill your fuel tanks today.

There are legal risks, too. Mr Trump may find himself accused of breaching the same maritime norms he has invoked against Iran. While blockades are not illegal in wartime, their application to international straits is contested. A legal row is brewing. Nor is it clear that a blockade alone will be enough to force Iran to yield.
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For all the escalation, the underlying dilemma remains unchanged. With diplomacy stalled, Washington and Tehran still face three unappealing choices: return to negotiations, resume hostilities, or allow the conflict to drift to an uneasy, unresolved end.

A return to war carries danger for both sides. The conflict is already unpopular in the United States. A second act threatens turmoil in global energy markets.

For the Iranian regime, renewed fighting risks squandering the domestic goodwill it has built by casting itself as the victim of an unprovoked war. Public sympathy may have shifted during the initial phase of the conflict, but ordinary people – many of whom have borne the brunt, with an estimated one million put out of work – may be less forgiving if a chance for peace is seen to have been squandered. How many Iranians are still incarcerated from their protest earlier in the year?

Mr Trump may calculate that the economic pressure of a naval blockade will, over time, force Iran’s leaders to bend – or even drive discontent back onto the streets. But such effects would take time, complicating his hope of declaring victory and moving on.

He could still seek to shift attention to more politically rewarding foreign policy battles – Nato, Greenland and Ukraine among them – but that becomes harder while the Strait of Hormuz remains contested.

At root, the problem is that a durable settlement remains elusive while both sides still believe they can dictate the outcome.
Both sides claim to have won and both side sides are waiting for the other to capitulate, so yeah, no reason whatsoever I guess, by anyone on any side of this latest chapter in the goat rodeo. If this Islamabad thing is just for optics for both sides, then neither has any real motivation to do anything except point fingers and take selfies I guess.
 

petros

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Key details on international involvement:
  • Initial Hesitation: Earlier in the crisis, Germany and Greece officially ruled out military participation.
  • Potential Support: Trump has suggested that countries heavily reliant on oil passing through the Strait—such as Japan, South Korea, and the UK—would join the U.S. effort to keep the waterway open.
  • GCC Partners: The United Arab Emirates (UAE) has previously indicated a willingness to join a U.S.-led military effort to secure the strait.
  • Minesweeping Focus: While some countries are reluctant to join a direct blockade of Iranian ships, there is more potential for cooperation in mine-clearing operations to secure navigation.
Current Situation
As of April 12, 2026, following the collapse of peace talks, the U.S. Navy has been instructed to interdict any vessel that has paid a toll to Iran, effectively creating a blockade of Iranian-influenced traffic.
The situation remains highly volatile, with both China and Russia expressing opposition to the blockade.

Summary of 2026 Conflict Losses (April 2-5 so this is a week old):
  • F-15E Strike Eagle: 1 Shot Down.
  • MC-130J: 2 Destroyed on ground.
  • MH-6 Little Bird: 4 Destroyed on ground.
  • MQ-9 Reaper Drones: ~16 total reported lost during the campaign.
The figure of 70 appears to be an unverified or vastly exaggerated number not supported by credible, independent, or mainstream Western reporting from the scene…which can mean something or nothing.

Anyway, looks like Trump is gonna try & ‘Cuba’ Iran financially & that’s only taken 3/4’s of a century so far. By imposing additional costs on Iran’s foundering economy, Mr Trump is seeking to force the capitulation that Tehran resisted at the negotiating table, blockading the strait & making Iran use $30,000 drones to eat through million dollar American missiles.

The decision also suggests a greater sense of urgency than his earlier insouciance implied.


As Mr Vance was emerging to admit defeat, Mr Trump was at a sports arena in Miami, watching a mixed martial arts fight with Marco Rubio, the US secretary of state.

It made for an incongruous split-screen. As the vice-president, a man with little negotiating pedigree, attempted to explain the collapse of the talks, Mr Rubio, America’s most senior diplomat, was watching a video montage of topless men thumping each other.

Yet Mr Trump cannot easily walk away while Iran continues to choke the world’s most important artery, through which – in normal times – a fifth of global oil supplies pass. The counter-blockade is an attempt to seize back the initiative.
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Gulf states, whose economies are already under strain, had hoped Mr Trump would use force to reopen the strait. A second blockade may not be what they had in mind. Nor are global markets likely to take kindly to a further escalation when trading opens on Monday. Fill your fuel tanks today.

There are legal risks, too. Mr Trump may find himself accused of breaching the same maritime norms he has invoked against Iran. While blockades are not illegal in wartime, their application to international straits is contested. A legal row is brewing. Nor is it clear that a blockade alone will be enough to force Iran to yield.
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For all the escalation, the underlying dilemma remains unchanged. With diplomacy stalled, Washington and Tehran still face three unappealing choices: return to negotiations, resume hostilities, or allow the conflict to drift to an uneasy, unresolved end.

A return to war carries danger for both sides. The conflict is already unpopular in the United States. A second act threatens turmoil in global energy markets.

For the Iranian regime, renewed fighting risks squandering the domestic goodwill it has built by casting itself as the victim of an unprovoked war. Public sympathy may have shifted during the initial phase of the conflict, but ordinary people – many of whom have borne the brunt, with an estimated one million put out of work – may be less forgiving if a chance for peace is seen to have been squandered. How many Iranians are still incarcerated from their protest earlier in the year?

Mr Trump may calculate that the economic pressure of a naval blockade will, over time, force Iran’s leaders to bend – or even drive discontent back onto the streets. But such effects would take time, complicating his hope of declaring victory and moving on.

He could still seek to shift attention to more politically rewarding foreign policy battles – Nato, Greenland and Ukraine among them – but that becomes harder while the Strait of Hormuz remains contested.

At root, the problem is that a durable settlement remains elusive while both sides still believe they can dictate the outcome.
Losing sucks huh? There is no face to save off Operation Epic Failure. Why try? There are other sources to get the truth but you think they're goofy.