Invasion of Canada

Toro

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RE: INVASION OF CANADA

There's a difference between planning and intending.

The US has plans to invade Canada right now. They have such plans as a pre-caution, in case there ever was a need. Why would there be a need? For example, if the USSR had ever decided to invade from the north. As slight of a possibility that may have been, the government would have been grossly negligent to not have such a scenario thought out. Same with the UK. The US has plans to invade the UK. Again, and more realistically, it was in response to a scenario if the USSR invaded the UK. How would America take it back?
 

darkbeaver

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RE: INVASION OF CANADA

Wednendays Child said:

"My hope is that the reinstatement of cordial friendship and trade can be done without rumor and innuendo against the other side and that truth will eventually prevail - with both sides listening to it."

That would mean continued association with a Terrorist
State, eventually that truth will prevail.
 

I think not

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Re: INVASION OF CANADA

Finder said:
1. The USA during it's early life all the way into the 20th century did believe that it had menifest destiny over north america and had plans for taking Canada, as they saw Canada as an extention of the British empire even when we had our own government.

Even the British saw you as part of the British Empire despite having your own government.

Finder said:
2. the war of 1812 should have been an easy victory for the American's as the British never really cared that much about Canada. But the American's were too cocky and invaded through the south which gave our troops the advantage of supply. If Quebec or montreal had been taken first the war would have ended fast. But with our supply roots in tact we were able to hold off the American's. The British and American's had many lose's during that war and our one great victory was in holding Canada.

The losses on either side were negligible and you speak as if Canadian and British were two separate entities, they were not.

Finder said:
3. With the lessions learned from the war of 1812, I doubt the American's would make the same mistake again and we would be american's now if they had invaded.

The War of 1812 created Britains own Manifest Destiny, look at the land you now have and say it isn't so. The only thing that kept Canada together was the British Empire.
 

Mogz

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RE: INVASION OF CANADA

if the USSR had ever decided to invade from the north.

That would have been interesting to watch. A Russian land army miles from home in the tundra. I've been there, they'll be no invasion from the North :)
 

Hank C

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Re: RE: INVASION OF CANADA

The Australian military is far smaller than the Canadian.


from what I have read Australia depsite its significantly smaller population spends more money on their military than Canada does.......but I guess if we had a draft we would have more manpower.
 

Haggis McBagpipe

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Re: INVASION OF CANADA

MMMike said:
Ah Haggis... where do you find this stuff? I had to pick myself off of the floor. :lol:

:D I have a Silliness folder in my browser, and a Profundity folder in my Documents. Between the two of them, I could be laughing clear into the next decade.
 

DasFX

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Re: RE: INVASION OF CANADA

Hank C said:
The Australian military is far smaller than the Canadian.


from what I have read Australia depsite its significantly smaller population spends more money on their military than Canada does.......but I guess if we had a draft we would have more manpower.

The only reason Australia spends more money per capita is because they know what it is like to be invaded. Ever since Darwin was attacked they've been more aware of external threats.

Canada on the other hand has never really been invaded in recent history, and we do have the US close by.

Australia is on its own and can't really count on New Zealand to bail them out. Nonetheless, it would be quite easy to take Australia is one wanted to.

Canadians love to put down their military, yet when plans are put into place to beef it up, we complain about the cost.

Why does the US have such a big military, cause they pay for it? I have no doubts that Canada could develop an advanced military if it were willing to spend the cash.
 

I think not

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Re: RE: INVASION OF CANADA

DasFX said:
Australia is on its own and can't really count on New Zealand to bail them out. Nonetheless, it would be quite easy to take Australia is one wanted to.

Australia, New Zealand and the US have a defense treaty referred to as ANZUS.
 

DasFX

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Re: RE: INVASION OF CANADA

I think not said:
DasFX said:
Australia is on its own and can't really count on New Zealand to bail them out. Nonetheless, it would be quite easy to take Australia is one wanted to.

Australia, New Zealand and the US have a defense treaty referred to as ANZUS.

I realize this, but I was refering to the Australian army on its own. Canada has defense treaty with the US, but many talk about how easily it could be taken over.
 

Said1

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Re: RE: INVASION OF CANADA

DasFX said:
Said1 said:
Australia plays a large role in "keeping the peace" in South East Asia too.

Out of necessity, not out of good will.

Hence "keeping the peace" and not "peace keeping".

Are you one of those last word kina guys. :lol:
 

FiveParadox

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RE: INVASION OF CANADA

Bah! Headers in Caps make me so mad!

[Insert a tantrum on the terrors of gratuitous capital letters here.]

Anyways.

Carry on. ;)

Um. In an effort to keep with the topic: Canada is cool. Canada for the win. If Canada were to be invaded by the United States, the rest of the world would own them.
 

Terminus

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Just a note, Even if ther US were to invade Canada, many, if not most, of us, particularly those of us in Western Canada, wouldn't mind becoming states rather than provinces. I've always thought a North American Federation would be benificial to both countries.
 

Sassylassie

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Re: INVASION OF CANADA

Well we (me) in the East wouldn't mind an invasion if Billy Rae Cyrus was leading the assult.
 

Mogz

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from what I have read Australia depsite its significantly smaller population spends more money on their military than Canada does.......but I guess if we had a draft we would have more manpower.

That was once true, however since 2003 there has been a steady increase in the amount of money spent on the Canadian Forces. Last fiscal year (2005) the Canadian Government spent in the neighbourhood of $14 Billion on defence, while for the same period the Australian Defence Force only received $10 Billion. The Australians are planning to boost their annual defence spending to around $15 Billion, however despite talks no gears have been put in motion to realocate the funding. As for Canada, the CF has been allocated for the 2006 fiscal year a $5 Billion hike in funding, with an additional $7 Billion in the following year, placing Canada's defence spending at around $26 Billion by the end of 2007. This is a result of a renewed interest by the Canadian public in the welfare of it's soldiers, sailors, and airmen. Hopefully this trend will continue and additional funds will be funneled to the Forces. As for a draft I highly doubt our nation will ever see one of those put in to effect. We went through three major conflicts during the 20th Century and never instituted a draft/conscription (although plans were layed at the end of World War II).

The only reason Australia spends more money per capita is because they know what it is like to be invaded. Ever since Darwin was attacked they've been more aware of external threats.

As I pointed out above the CF currently receives more funding per annum than the ADF does. Granted this is a recent swing in the CFs favor. With regard to Australia being invaded/occupied, that wouldn't be such an easy task consideing:

A. How large their nation is
B. How spread out their major centres are

Yes a nation could invaded Australia, but could they occupy it? No.

Canadians love to put down their military, yet when plans are put into place to beef it up, we complain about the cost.

That trend is slowly changing for the better. Since we invaded Afghanistan in 2001 along with the U.S. people have gained a certain curiosity about our Forces. While support has always been large in the West, the East is now becoming more involved in the welfare of the CF. Take for example the new equipment Canada has been receiving since 2002, an entirely restructured fighting system that goes from new combat uniforms to load bearing vests (that the U.S. and Britain envy), to new boots (that are cammo), to an all gortex clothing system. Couple that with a new installment of weapons and vehicles; C7A2s, G-Wagons, M777 towed 155mm Howitzers, and Naylas and you've got the makings for an utterly reformed military. Yes people still poke fun at the Forces, but they base their jokes upon the ways things were in the late 90s. The CF is utterly reformed both in a physical and tactical sense.

New Canadian Forces CADPAT Boot