invade pakistan

[gopher]

``Musharraf Foes Vow to Undo His Changes``


http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jIE0IUn4WIiaMBpjG8SI_6H5RXzgD8TJ01QO0


quote:

```A key opposition group vowed Sunday to try to undo amendments President Pervez Musharraf made to the constitution before lifting emergency rule, changes critics say will keep a tight lid on dissent.Musharraf lifted a six-week-old state of emergency Saturday, telling a skeptical nation the crackdown was to save Pakistan from a conspiracy rather than ensure his own political survival.
But Musharraf entrenched limits he imposed under the emergency, including strict curbs on press freedom and the replacement of independent-minded judges with jurists friendlier to the U.S.-backed leader. Opponents have said the changes set the stage for parliamentary elections next month to be rigged, and have threatened to hold mass demonstrations.```




So, when are the forum's radical right wingers going to demand that Bush invade Pakistan in order to restore democracy???

 

[Zzarchov]

Are you familiar with pre-Musharref Pakistan? It hasn't been a democracy...well, really, ever in the long term, and it wasn't before he took over.

He took over in a bloodless coup because no one thought what he was doing was wrong, it was borderline societal collapse from a kleptocracy.

 

[gopher]

``are you familiar with pre-Musharraf Pakistan?``

I am to some extent due, in part, to my great interest in the sport of cricket - Nawaz Sharif is a conservative whose victory over Bhutto was questioned though generally acknowledged to have had a valid outcome. There had been charges of corruption but it was no worse than the Bush regime and nobody here has called for a coup against him.

Pakistan has had its problems, especially its wars with India in 1965, 1971, and the Kashmir border clashes which have had a tremendous strain on its economy. Still, its provincial authorities controlled its day to day governance and the general elections were not much different from India's.

Pakistan is hardly the ideal example of democracy. But a democracy it always was until fascist dictator Musharraf took over. He has killed many democrats and Orthodox Muslims there, and is well deserving of the hanging tree.

 

[Zzarchov]

Oh it was a democracy eh?

Aren't you forgetting about Bangladesh seperating from Pakistan and WHY?

 

[Praxius]

Plain and simple, Pakistan has a Nuclear weapons..... once North Korea set off their test bomb and then shoved their middle finger at the rest of the world and basically say "What are you gonna do about it?" Did anybody notice how the US and other leading nations which are giving Iran flack and wanting to start WWIII, that they all shoved their tails up their arses and now all of a sudden Military Action is no longer an option, but it's rather just talks and more sanctions.

The US and other nations who are all hungry for this global war on terrorism (which is about as effective as the War on Drugs) that they'll push around and threaten attacks on other nations like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, until they have nukes or an equal deterrant.... then they all hush up.... like the spineless bullies that they truly are.

Some food for though:

The Taliban didn't cause 9/11 - Osama did, and the Taliban gave him hell for his actions and lost a lot of support in that aspect (But gained more from other islamic extremist organizations.) The biggest chunk of the Taliban was at the time located in Afghanistan, so the US went and attacked.... now Canada and the rest of NATO are once again cleaning up after the US's mess, all the while they decide to jump into Iraq on false information and lack of any solid evidence, not even bothering to finish what they started in Afghanistan.

Iraq didn't have any WOMD, and Afghanistan never had Osama Bin Laddy within their borders, but was hiding in Pakistan (So the reports say)

Do you guys want to know why Afghanistan was invaded in the first place? Because the Taliban at the time who ruled the country did not agree on allowing the US to build a natural gas pipeline they could use and get a cut from, so they invaded... ousted the Taliban, established their own "Democratic Government" and now they have their natural gas pipeline. Much like attempting to gain access to Iraq's oil.

I'm all for going after those who are responsible for terroristic activities, but go after the right people and stop this gun slinging across the globe.

Added:

well snappin crap.... didn't realize there were more then two pages to this.... I guess I have further reading in this thread to do.

 

[darkbeaver]

What was the purpose of their meeting? Both of them look like they're thinking 'ew, ew, ew'. :lol:

I know this is late SAID1 but I am terminally slow you know.:lol:

 

[darkbeaver]

Hello, praxius, welcome to here, have a nice time.

 

[jimshort19]

The Next Best War

So, we all pull out of Afghanistan, announcing it a failed state and proposing to split Afghanistan between Iran and Pakistan. If they (Paki and Ira) disagree but want the land, we'll drop by when the war is over and pick up the pieces Soviet style, creating UN protectorate or something. If one doesn't want the land, we give it to the other. If they agree and want the land we'll split it between them and forget about Afghanistan.

Then we are back to dealing with Iran and Afghanistan only. Surely we couldn't give a more decrepit hole to two more deserving rats.

 

[gopher]

Oh it was a democracy eh?

Aren't you forgetting about Bangladesh seperating from Pakistan and WHY?

For goodness sake --- that was in 1971, dealt more with the nation's historic ethnic divide, and has no bearing on Musharraf and his crimes on the people of Pakistan today!

Since you are continually evading the issue, I suppose this is your concession that Musharraf should be sent to the gallows where he belongs.

 

[Zzarchov]

Because he took control over a country without resistance?

You act like he's Pinochet, involved in some gunbattle for power, murdering the rightful ruler. Those in power before him robbed the country blind then ran off leaving the place as they had what they wanted and had no more real use for the office. He got the place back on its feet then held elections.

Sure it isn't a picture perfect story, but its a far cry from a brutal dictator.

 

[gopher]

I suppose you mean to say Bush should have the same fate as Musharraf and Pinochet.

 

[Zzarchov]

Living until they die of old age?

Jeez, stop blaming Bush, its not his fault he got elected. Thats America's fault.

 

[warrior_won]

Living until they die of old age?

Jeez, stop blaming Bush, its not his fault he got elected. Thats America's fault.

But if he hadn't run for office... Twice, mind you. :roll:

 

[gopher]

Living until they die of old age?

Jeez, stop blaming Bush, its not his fault he got elected. Thats America's fault.

You keep changing the subject. Therefore, thanks for conceding that Pakistan's Musharraf deserves the hanging tree.

 

[Zzarchov]

Im changing the subject? You brought up Bush.

I suppose you mean to say Bush should have the same fate as Musharraf and Pinochet.

Game set and match, if changing the subject to Bush means your wrong (by your own words), I guess you concede you need stronger meds than you can get over the counter and should probably read a few more books and maybe get some life experience before making statements about places far away and death of those in them

 

[Praxius]

Living until they die of old age?

Jeez, stop blaming Bush, its not his fault he got elected. Thats America's fault.

Actually there is a lot of evidence which points towards both his elections being rigged so that he won (Against Gore and against Kerry) So it very well could be his fault... but it's also the fault of those who never did anything to question this.

 

[gopher]

```Game set and match, if changing the subject to Bush means your wrong```


Nice try. But wrong again.

The basis of this thread is that Bush needs to invade Pakistan in order to be consistent in his alleged principles.

pwned!

 

[Zzarchov]

```Game set and match, if changing the subject to Bush means your wrong```


Nice try. But wrong again.

The basis of this thread is that Bush needs to invade Pakistan in order to be consistent in his alleged principles.

pwned!

In which case you are still wrong, as its your claim that talking about Bush means I've lost.

Its "Game set and match" because no matter what you say on the matter you are contradicting one of your earlier posts.

but yes, you are "pwned".

 

[gopher]

haha

I just love to frustrate warmongers ...

 

[darkbeaver]

I should be able to sell some weapons here. I got two slightly used particle disrupters, it's offworld stuff that I got at the Shag Harbour crash scene in the sixtys hardly got any rust on them neddles on full charge don't use them much anymore, hate to part with them though, they're hard to get nowadays. 251 euros and I'll ship them anywhere in the temporal world.No spiritual deliveries. as is