Introduce sugar tax, ban food and drink ads for kids: Senate obesity report

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Seems like the whole point of this thread is to overcomplicate a simple problem using extensive concepts that would never solve the original problem.

So let's say you do raise taxes on junk food and you ban kids commercials for junk food (don't know how that will help the fat parents who watch Game of Thrones though).....

You still have inactive kids sitting on their fat @sses, playing on their phones or playing games, doing nothing.

Then they have all the sugar and fatty food removed from their diet and they still sit around doing nothing. When you tell them to go play, they will complain that they're too tired and get dizzy when they stand because their lunch time meal of three kidney beans and a slice of tofu between two slices of high fibre / low GI grain bread didn't give them enough energy to blink properly.

So parents throw their hands in the air and let them keep playing games and staring at their phones all day. They then complain to the government that it's someone else's fault their kids are all screwed up more than before, so the government introduces more lunatic laws and taxes while still not addressing the real problem.

And the real problem are the parents for being failures and not getting more involved in their kids life. Sticking a phone or a game in their face is easier and gives the parent more free time for themselves without having to listen to their kid whine and moan all day..... You know, as if they didn't want to be parents or something and being one ruins their grove.

The problem isn't about eating crap food. The problem is not doing anything active to burn it off.

If you sit on your @ss all day doing nothing physical, you eating just the basic food groups recommended will make you fat.

Obviously it's both activity and calorie consumption.

I work an office job and I've lost 10 pounds just by changing my diet.

I basically gave up sugar and bread for lunches and I just snack on vegetables throughout the work day.
 

Machjo

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Woah, the senate actually farted out a good idea for once.


Introduce sugar tax, ban food and drink ads for kids: Senate obesity report

A new Senate report on Canada's obesity crisis is calling for a tax on sugary drinks, a ban on food and drink advertising aimed at children and government subsidies for healthy food.

The report titled Obesity in Canada makes 21 recommendations in total for dealing with Canada's obesity crisis, including a call for the federal government to rewrite Canada's food guide without any input from the food and beverage industries.

But almost as soon as the Senate's prescription for a healthier Canada hit the internet there were objections to the notion of a sugar tax.

"The only thing a sugar tax will make thinner are Canadians' wallets," said Aaron Wudrick, the federal director of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, in a release. "Good intentions do not always translate into good policy, and the record of these types of taxes in other jurisdiction leaves much to be desired."

The Canadian Beverage Association was also quick to reject the recommendation from the Senate saying that taxing drinks, without taxing the sugar in other foods, would not support the goal of a healthier public.

"This has been tried in other jurisdictions and it has failed. It didn't reduce obesity. It increased the price of groceries, and resulted in job losses in the food and beverage sector," said Jim Goetz, president of the Canadian Beverage Association, in a release.

Introduce sugar tax, ban food and drink ads for kids: Senate obesity report - Politics - CBC News

A cholesterol tax would be wise too. I like user-pay taxation. If we're going to have socialised healthcare, then I'd like at least some of that money to come from a sugar tax to fund care for diabetes sufferers, a cholesterol tax for heart-disease sufferers, and a carbon tax for asthma sufferers. The extra revenue could go towards paying off the debt. No more freebies.

I don't agree with subsidising healthy food though. The government has a debt to pay off first.
 

DaSleeper

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That explains That flossy thread....ex-smokers, ex-drinkers, ex-dopers, seem to want to reform everybody, whether they want to or not...
 

Machjo

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Tax on tobacco products has helped convince some people to quit and those who continue to smoke help pay for additional health care requirements.
The same logic should seem to work in this case.

Freeloaders generally do oppose user-pay taxation. They prefer that taxes be decoupled from the services for which they are being collected. They tend to prefer income taxes.

That explains That flossy thread....ex-smokers, ex-drinkers, ex-dopers, seem to want to reform everybody, whether they want to or not...

No kidding eh. It's time we just deregulated the heroin trade around our public schools. FREEDOM!
 

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Obviously it's both activity and calorie consumption.

I work an office job and I've lost 10 pounds just by changing my diet.

I basically gave up sugar and bread for lunches and I just snack on vegetables throughout the work day.
Your work is sitting at the computer posting on the internet all day .
Who would pay for that ?

It must be in a government office .
 

Machjo

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If you're an internet addict, try the Screen Time app and the Perfect App Lock app. They work well in combination.
 

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OH this is a brilliant idea. MOAR TAXES!!!
Why not just strictly regulate how much sugar can be put into foods that are sold in Canada? A sugar tax would be nothing like the tobacco tax because you can't really say, "put less tobacco in your tobacco products". But EVERY soda maker could reduce their sugar content by half and still produce a perfectly drinkable product. Same with the cold cereal, etc etc.


Maybe the Senate could quit being a bunch of lazy f*cks and think of something a little more original than more taxes. Because that's what this idea is, pure laziness.
 

Machjo

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OH this is a brilliant idea. MOAR TAXES!!!
Why not just strictly regulate how much sugar can be put into foods that are sold in Canada? A sugar tax would be nothing like the tobacco tax because you can't really say, "put less tobacco in your tobacco products". But EVERY soda maker could reduce their sugar content by half and still produce a perfectly drinkable product. Same with the cold cereal, etc etc.


Maybe the Senate could quit being a bunch of lazy f*cks and think of something a little more original than more taxes. Because that's what this idea is, pure laziness.

That's another solution, but then people could argue that it limits their freedom.
 

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I think we should also tax bicycles. The health cost when they cut in front of a car and get themselves broken into a big pile of goo should not be borne by everyday taxpayers. And what about joggers? Also we should tax them. Those bad knees and stuff they wind up with also put a burden on the system.
 

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Well, as long as we're banning things by taxation, I got a list. . .

1. Tie-dye.

2. White people with dreadlocks.

3. The color orange.

4. Kardashians.

5. Plaid flannel.

6. Flip-flops that cost over $10.

7. Bumper stickers.

8. Skinny jeans.

9. E-mail spam.

10. Facebook likes.
 

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they might as well have a salt tax as well.
;)