Inquiry Murdered and Missing Aboriginal Women

Tecumsehsbones

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Sorry above my google level :)

I might look it up, if I have nothing better to do.

By the way, what's your point? Is it that native women murdered by natives don't count?

The stats seem to indicate that non-native women are murdered by people of their own race at an even higher rate. Do they count?
 

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The stats seem to indicate that non-native women are murdered by people of their own race at an even higher rate. Do they count?

No they don't, Tec. Neither do East Indians, Blacks, Chinese, Filipinos, Jamaicans, Koreans, Syrians or any other race. The government doesn't deem their murders to be worth the trouble. They also don't fall into the sacred category either.
 

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I might look it up, if I have nothing better to do.

By the way, what's your point? Is it that native women murdered by natives don't count?

The stats seem to indicate that non-native women are murdered by people of their own race at an even higher rate. Do they count?

Sorry I'm late on this I never noticed it before now

The point was that there are no real big surprises and the Inquiry was a waste of money and time, and to answer your question.

Besides what does the below article have to do with the Inquiry, there already was an Inquiry on residential schools and we found out they were the worst thing to happen in Canadian history.

Celebrated missionary in Quebec abused Innu girls, inquiry hears

MONTREAL—For most of his adult life and for decades after his death Father Alexis Joveneau was regarded as a religious superstar in Quebec.
But the national inquiry into murdered and missing Indigenous women has heard from several witnesses who said they were sexually abused over several years by the priest.
In the predominately Innu community of La Romaine, Que., Joveneau was celebrated, respected, and considered by many to be “Jesus in person,” as one witness recounted. He left a much different impression on his victims.
“He mistreated us. He abused us,” said Noelle Mark, 57, who described being touched inappropriately by Joveneau between the ages of about nine and 15.
She was one of two women Wednesday who described going to church for confession and being forced to sit on the priest’s knee and endure his inappropriate touches, rather than kneeling.
“He would stick his tongue in my ear. I remember that for a long time,” Mark said. “I hated that smell—his breath. I smell it now.”
The Belgian-born priest was ordained in 1951 and requested he be sent to Canada with the Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate, an international religious order. He arrived in Quebec’s rugged north coast of the St. Lawrence River and spent nearly four decades living and working among the Innu people until his sudden death in 1992.
It was noted upon his death that Joveneau was fluent in Innu-aimun, the Innu language, and dedicated much of his time to safeguarding the language and translating educational and religious books for Innu readers.
The National Film Board produced a 1977 film, Le goût de la farine, which featured the priest talking about the struggles of the Innu of Quebec to maintain their culture and language and battle social problems such as alcoholism.
Most of the obituaries marveled that Father Joveneau had been adopted by the Quebec Innu and would be buried in their cemetery.
Simone Bellefleur said she wanted nothing to do with him and still has trouble entering churches because she associates such buildings with painful memories.

Bellefleur said she endured the same treatment in the confessional and at the priest’s home, where she was often asked to come and wash dishes. Other times, it happened in the company of other girls, she said.
“Often we were together as a group and he would take us each one after the other. I must have been around 15 years old,” Bellefleur said.
Mark said Joveneau would stroke her back in the confessional “all the way to my buttocks.”
“I did not know. I thought that was normal to be touched. No one told me about this type of thing.”
She mentioned the priest’s actions to one of her nine brothers, but he refused to believe her.
“He said I was working for the devil,” Mark said.
She asked the wife of her older brother, who explained that the priest’s actions were inappropriate.
“I started to be afraid. I felt broken. I was torn inside. It really affected me in how I did at school.”
Bellefleur said she was left with a lasting anger and frustration.
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“What frustrates me and angers me today is that I am a mother and I always wanted to be violent towards my daughter because I had lived things and I’ve never forgotten those things,” she said.
Mark said she discussed the process of making a complaint against Joveneau with a man who worked at a local nursing station. She said nobody knew how to file a complaint or to whom they should report his activities.
The inquiry heard that there was no permanent police force in La Romaine when the abuse allegedly occurred, in the 1960s and 1970s.
People also feared repercussions if they made accusations against Joveneau.
“The priest was very important. He held an important place,” Mark said.
Both Mark and Bellefleur struggled to tell their stories, fighting back tears, taking long pauses and relying on the support of friends and family.
In a statement released Wednesday, the Missionary Oblates of Mary Immaculate said the order was granted official status at the inquiry on Monday in order to help investigate the allegations.
“The Oblates are deeply concerned and distressed after the testimony heard at the inquiry and wish that all the light be shed on these incidents,” the statement said, adding that the order condemns all forms of physical and psychological violence.
A lawyer for the national inquiry urged other women who have suffered abuse or mistreatment at the hands of Joveneau or others in any community to get in contact.
Commissioner Michèle Audette, who is herself Innu, said other Indigenous women were already sending emails, messages and making calls with other allegations of abuse or violence.
“Through your testimony you have already had an effect,” she said.
 

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Have we found the truth, (Harper was right). Have we followed the truth to its healing place? (Everyone resigns from the inquiry)
 

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I once had a conversation with a friend of mine about this topic I asked him about it. He said that it's their own men who kill these women. Looking back on this I'm not true if we was being a dick or if he really believes this, he's an old white male in his 60's who works as an accountant. In my mind he actually believes this and he's a good man, though in my humble opinion I think it's a combination of White/Black/Latino/Asian men or Asian/Latino/White/Black who rape and murder these women. I'd like to get people thoughts on this.
 

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I once had a conversation with a friend of mine about this topic I asked him about it. He said that it's their own men who kill these women. Looking back on this I'm not true if we was being a dick or if he really believes this, he's an old white male in his 60's who works as an accountant. In my mind he actually believes this and he's a good man, though in my humble opinion I think it's a combination of White/Black/Latino/Asian men or Asian/Latino/White/Black who rape and murder these women. I'd like to get people thoughts on this.

Yes, most native women killed are killed by native men. Just as most blacks are killed by other blacks, and most whites are killed by other whites.

Of course, when it's whites killed by whites, the rock bangers don't use it as an excuse to ignore the problem.
 

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And more on the perverted priest inquiry I mean MMIWG hearing

'He broke the values we had': Innu women at Quebec MMIWG hearing recount priest's alleged abuse

She said she also witnessed the priest assault her mother, and that when she told her father about the assault, he beat her.

Lalo said that was the start of more conjugal violence in the family.
She thanked the commissioners for hearing her story, questioning "why there wasn't this kind of panel before to talk about this."

Click the link for the full article
 

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What has changed since 2014 when the RCMP released their data?


Has anything new or game changing came from the inquiry that wasn't already known?

Is acceptance setting in? Is f-ckin white still to blame?

Initial:
RCMP confirm report of more than 1,000 murdered aboriginal women - Politics - CBC News

Updated.
Missing, Murdered Aboriginal Women: RCMP Release Updated Findings

From Spring 2014:

The statistics support a controversial claim made by Aboriginal Affairs Minister Bernard Valcourt.

In a closed door meeting with aboriginal leaders last March, Valcourt said 70 per cent of murdered aboriginal women were killed by aboriginal men. His comments infuriated several chiefs, who felt he was blaming aboriginal people for the problem.

The RCMP said its latest conclusions reaffirm prevention efforts need to focus on family violence.
 

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Yeah that part has already been done just didn't like the results

70 per cent of murdered aboriginal women killed by indigenous men: RCMP
Valid point. Just-in is just doing the inquiry to appease the first nations about the problem. Let them vent their thoughts and emotions about their lost ones, then do nothing. It will take about two years to put the information together and then they will sit on it for another two years, by that time the purpose of the inquiry will be forgotten and the government will say we did the inquiry. Will the government do any of the suggestions that may come from the inquiry, NOT. First of all, nothing can be done about the ones that have been killed, unless 70% of the First Nations people who killed their own people, confess to the killings and let the justice system take are of them. What needs to be amended is the the First Nations people be treated the same as the rest of society so that there is a deterrent so others will not kill their own people. Should we think that a part of the problem is a culture of the First Nations?
 

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Inquiry loses another executive director

OTTAWA - The inquiry into missing and murdered Indigenous women and girls has lost another executive director.
The federally funded commission — plagued by many staffing changes throughout its tenure — says Debbie Reid has left the commission as executive director but it will not comment further, calling it a personnel matter.
In a statement, the commission thanks Reid for her contributions.
It says the inquiry's work will not be disrupted during the transition that will see its director of operations Calvin Wong act as interim executive director effective immediately.
The commission says it has a "sacred responsibility" to the 597 families and survivors who have already entrusted their stories to the inquiry and the 600 others registered to do so.
Reid, a former special adviser to the Assembly of First Nations, took the role of executive director in October, replacing Michele Moreau.
 

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I've conducted my own inquiry, and arrived at the following conclusions:

1. The vast majority of murdered and missing Native women are the victims of Native men.

2. Investigation and closure of homicide and missing persons cases involving Natives is made more difficult by a number of factors, including the remoteness of many Native communities, lack of resources, and a long-standing distrust of the authorities which makes many Natives unwilling to cooperate with police.

3. It is a hard fact of life that finite resources cause the authorities to focus on cases they believe have a higher probability of being solved, and the factors in Point 2 diminish the likelihood of solution of cases of missing and murdered Native women.

4. There may be some racism in the police and other authorities, but there is no evidence that any such racism is widespread or tolerated. What evidence exists indicates the contrary.

Questions?