Indiana Retreats
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No most people don't. They hear "corporation" they think Microsoft or something like that. And I don't know about the US but here in Canada the lion's share of corporation are mom and pop organizations. And they are the ones that get the most tax breaks as well, CCPCs. Small to medium sized businesses, the ones that actually drive the economy.
So now you do want to talk about taxes?
If you're extrapolating from what I stated to suggest I meant that, stop because you're dead wrong and don't put words in my mouth. If you're actually suggesting that as a course of action, that's a pretty stupid thing to suggest.
Just going with the flow, my attempt to get back on topic having failed miserably.
Stopped reading there, because I wasn't extrapolating, so it don't matter what the rest of your statement was.
EDITED TO ADD: Oh, OK, I admit it. I was curious, so I went back and read the rest.
Your blather about how stating my opinion is putting words in your mouth aside, there's a considerable bloc of thought that, because corporations are owned as investments by shareholders, any income taxation that occurs should be on the income the shareholders derive from the corporation, rather than from the corporation itself. This view is supported by many economists, political thinkers, and businesspeople, as well as a chunk of hoi polloi. So while it may be stupid, it is part of the debate.
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Free Trade (and monetarism and unregulated free markets), now a tenet of the Evangelical Christianity libertarian bent.. has destroyed the industrial heartland of America. It is rusting away under a fabric of greed, betrayal and ignorance.. posing as 'freedom'... (for Wall Street, Banks and Corporations only).. under shills and dullards like Pense.
Well, the bad news is Indiana amended its law to forbid discrimination based on "race, color, religion, ancestry, age, national origin, disability, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, or United States military service."
What a shame.
What a shame.
And why do you think they did that? Did they have an epiphany or did the pressure of public opinion bring them to their senses?
Because they're state legislators. In Indiana, the safe, easy, cheap way to get elected is to bawl out the love of Jeebus and hatred of his alleged followers. The law would have sailed through without objection but for the bad luck of coming to national attention.
A question I have had was what gays would have Pizza for a wedding ? That scenario certainly doesn't fight the gay stereotype and I've been thinking it was a set up but it's not, it's worse than that.
Appears the xtians are all up tight about a possible scenario proposed by a reporter.
Turns out they never had a request to supply a gay wedding........
A fundraiser for the owners of an Indiana pizzeria that became the target of widespread animosity after they said they wouldn't cater a same-sex wedding reception has collected more than $828,000 from anonymous donors..
Crystal's father, Kevin O'Connor, told The Times on Wednesday that he has no problem with same-sex couples, and had not sought to make a declaration that he wouldn't serve them. His daughter was simply responding to a television reporter's question, O'Connor said, and he had not been asked to cater a wedding before she made those comments...
Supporters of Indiana pizzeria at center of gay rights controversy donate $800K - LA Times
I hope these Pizza people consider donating to this lady so she can pay her lawyer
DelRea Good of Portage, Indiana was charged with resisting arrest after she drove to a 'safe and well-lit area' before pulling over
A nurse, 52, who was driving by herself on a dark country road faces felony charges after she didn't immediately pull over for a cop because she didn't think it was a safe place to stop.
DelRea Good of Portage, Indiana says that on March 23 she was charged with resisting arrest because she hit the brakes for Porter County Sheriff's Department Patrolman William Marshall about a half a mile down the road from where he asked her to halt her vehicle.
Good was speeding and was driving at 54 mph in a 35 mph zone at 11:21 p.m.
Good has no previous criminal record and says that if she is convicted of a felony then she will lose her job.
Harper then said that two years prior, Portage police issued a warning say that a man impersonating a police officer by flashing red and blue lights tried to get a woman to pull over.
Portage Police Sgt. Keith Hughes said that the woman who refused to stop a few years ago exercised good judgement.
He recommended that drivers call 911 if they expect someone is impersonating a cop and said if they are unable to get through to anyone they should wave to the officer them stop at a well lit area.
Porter County Sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Larry LaFlower said after the current incident that 'The sheriff's office supports our officer's decision in this matter.'
Good has been posting to her Facebook following the incident and decided to assign herself the hashtag #femalesafetymatters.
She wrote that her lawyer is representing her free of charge because 'he feels this is a travesty of justice.'
Good also posted a picture of bruises on her arm from the arrest and claimed that the officer was too rough with her.
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http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/...cle_306f1051-5412-5267-898b-aadd0041aa57.html
Appears the xtians are all up tight about a possible scenario proposed by a reporter.
Turns out they never had a request to supply a gay wedding........
A fundraiser for the owners of an Indiana pizzeria that became the target of widespread animosity after they said they wouldn't cater a same-sex wedding reception has collected more than $828,000 from anonymous donors..
Crystal's father, Kevin O'Connor, told The Times on Wednesday that he has no problem with same-sex couples, and had not sought to make a declaration that he wouldn't serve them. His daughter was simply responding to a television reporter's question, O'Connor said, and he had not been asked to cater a wedding before she made those comments...
Supporters of Indiana pizzeria at center of gay rights controversy donate $800K - LA Times
I hope these Pizza people consider donating to this lady so she can pay her lawyer
DelRea Good of Portage, Indiana was charged with resisting arrest after she drove to a 'safe and well-lit area' before pulling over
A nurse, 52, who was driving by herself on a dark country road faces felony charges after she didn't immediately pull over for a cop because she didn't think it was a safe place to stop.
DelRea Good of Portage, Indiana says that on March 23 she was charged with resisting arrest because she hit the brakes for Porter County Sheriff's Department Patrolman William Marshall about a half a mile down the road from where he asked her to halt her vehicle.
Good was speeding and was driving at 54 mph in a 35 mph zone at 11:21 p.m.
Good has no previous criminal record and says that if she is convicted of a felony then she will lose her job.
Harper then said that two years prior, Portage police issued a warning say that a man impersonating a police officer by flashing red and blue lights tried to get a woman to pull over.
Portage Police Sgt. Keith Hughes said that the woman who refused to stop a few years ago exercised good judgement.
He recommended that drivers call 911 if they expect someone is impersonating a cop and said if they are unable to get through to anyone they should wave to the officer them stop at a well lit area.
Porter County Sheriff's spokesman Sgt. Larry LaFlower said after the current incident that 'The sheriff's office supports our officer's decision in this matter.'
Good has been posting to her Facebook following the incident and decided to assign herself the hashtag #femalesafetymatters.
She wrote that her lawyer is representing her free of charge because 'he feels this is a travesty of justice.'
Good also posted a picture of bruises on her arm from the arrest and claimed that the officer was too rough with her.
more
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/...cle_306f1051-5412-5267-898b-aadd0041aa57.html
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The right’s made-up God: How bigots invented a white supremacist Jesus
Rutgers Professor: Religious Right Worships a Fictional, ‘A**hole’ God of ‘White Supremacy and Patriarchy’
Christianity’s tent is not big enough to accommodate both the supporters of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act and Rutgers professor Brittney Cooper, who in a Wednesday piece for Salon blasted both the state’s pre-fix RFRA and the religious right in general.
“This kind of legislation is rooted in a politics that gives white people the authority to police and terrorize people of color, queer people and poor women,” declared Cooper. “That means these people don’t represent any kind of Christianity that looks anything like the kind that I practice…This white, blond-haired, blue-eyed, gun-toting, Bible-quoting Jesus of the religious right is a god of their own making. I call this god, the god of white supremacy and patriarchy...This God isn’t the God that I serve…He might be ‘biblical’ but he’s also an *******.” Cooper argued that left-wing Christians “need to reclaim the narrative of Jesus’ life and death” from Christian conservatives, who “have not been good stewards over the narrative.
They have pimped Jesus’ death to support the global spread of American empire vis-à-vis war, ‘missions,’ and ‘free trade,’ the abuse of native peoples, the continued subjugation of Black people, and the regulation of the sexual lives of women and gay people. Let us mark this Holy Week by declaring the death to the unholy trinity of white supremacist, capitalist, heteropatriarchy. And once these systems die, may they die once and for all, never to be resurrected.”
Any time right-wing conservatives declare that they are trying to restore or reclaim something, we should all be very afraid. Usually, this means the country or, in this case, the state of Indiana is about to be treated to another round of backward time travel, to the supposedly idyllic environs of the 1950s, wherein women, and gays, and blacks knew their respective places and stayed in them... …
[G]iven our current anti-Black racial climate, there is no reason to trust that these laws won’t be eventually used for acts of racially inflected religious discrimination… …This kind of legislation is largely driven by conservative Christian men and women, who hold political views that are antagonistic to every single group of people who are not white, male, Christian, cisgender, straight and middle-class. Jesus, a brown, working-class, Jew, doesn’t even meet all the qualifications… …
[T]his kind of legislation is rooted in a politics that gives white people the authority to police and terrorize people of color, queer people and poor women. That means these people don’t represent any kind of Christianity that looks anything like the kind that I practice…
I often ask myself whether I really do worship the same God of white religious conservatives…[Jesus] never found time to even mention gay people, let alone condemn them. His message of radical inclusivity was so threatening that the state lynched him for fear that he was fomenting a cultural and political rebellion.
This white, blond-haired, blue-eyed, gun-toting, Bible-quoting Jesus of the religious right is a god of their own making. I call this god, the god of white supremacy and patriarchy.
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The right’s made-up God: How bigots invented a white supremacist Jesus - Salon.com
Rutgers Professor: Religious Right Worships a Fictional, ‘A**hole’ God of ‘White Supremacy and Patriarchy’
Christianity’s tent is not big enough to accommodate both the supporters of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act and Rutgers professor Brittney Cooper, who in a Wednesday piece for Salon blasted both the state’s pre-fix RFRA and the religious right in general.
“This kind of legislation is rooted in a politics that gives white people the authority to police and terrorize people of color, queer people and poor women,” declared Cooper. “That means these people don’t represent any kind of Christianity that looks anything like the kind that I practice…This white, blond-haired, blue-eyed, gun-toting, Bible-quoting Jesus of the religious right is a god of their own making. I call this god, the god of white supremacy and patriarchy...This God isn’t the God that I serve…He might be ‘biblical’ but he’s also an *******.” Cooper argued that left-wing Christians “need to reclaim the narrative of Jesus’ life and death” from Christian conservatives, who “have not been good stewards over the narrative.
They have pimped Jesus’ death to support the global spread of American empire vis-à-vis war, ‘missions,’ and ‘free trade,’ the abuse of native peoples, the continued subjugation of Black people, and the regulation of the sexual lives of women and gay people. Let us mark this Holy Week by declaring the death to the unholy trinity of white supremacist, capitalist, heteropatriarchy. And once these systems die, may they die once and for all, never to be resurrected.”
Any time right-wing conservatives declare that they are trying to restore or reclaim something, we should all be very afraid. Usually, this means the country or, in this case, the state of Indiana is about to be treated to another round of backward time travel, to the supposedly idyllic environs of the 1950s, wherein women, and gays, and blacks knew their respective places and stayed in them... …
[G]iven our current anti-Black racial climate, there is no reason to trust that these laws won’t be eventually used for acts of racially inflected religious discrimination… …This kind of legislation is largely driven by conservative Christian men and women, who hold political views that are antagonistic to every single group of people who are not white, male, Christian, cisgender, straight and middle-class. Jesus, a brown, working-class, Jew, doesn’t even meet all the qualifications… …
[T]his kind of legislation is rooted in a politics that gives white people the authority to police and terrorize people of color, queer people and poor women. That means these people don’t represent any kind of Christianity that looks anything like the kind that I practice…
I often ask myself whether I really do worship the same God of white religious conservatives…[Jesus] never found time to even mention gay people, let alone condemn them. His message of radical inclusivity was so threatening that the state lynched him for fear that he was fomenting a cultural and political rebellion.
This white, blond-haired, blue-eyed, gun-toting, Bible-quoting Jesus of the religious right is a god of their own making. I call this god, the god of white supremacy and patriarchy.
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The right’s made-up God: How bigots invented a white supremacist Jesus - Salon.com
what's in like in that other universe? this is fascinating, where the hell are the physicists that should be studying this man
They're checking out post 109 on this thread:
http://forums.canadiancontent.net/news/133629-us-cops-killed-more-people-4.html#post2095695