Indian solar power prices hit record low, undercutting fossil fuels

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Indian solar power prices hit record low, undercutting fossil fuels

Wholesale solar power prices have reached another record low in India, faster than analysts predicted and further undercutting the price of fossil fuel-generated power in the country.

The tumbling price of solar energy also increases the likelihood that India will meet – and by its own predictions, exceed – the renewable energy targets it set at the Paris climate accords in December 2015.

India is the world’s third-largest carbon polluter, with emissions forecast to at least double as it seeks to develop its economy and lift hundreds of millions of citizens out of poverty.

Ensuring it generates as much of that energy as possible from renewable sources is considered crucial to limiting catastrophic global temperature increases.

At a reverse auction in Rajasthan on Tuesday, power companies Phelan Energy and Avaada Power each offered to charge 2.62 rupees per kilowatt-hour (kWh) of electricity generated from solar panels they hope to build at an energy park in the desert state. Last year’s previous record lowest bid was 4.34 rupees per kWh .

Analysts called the 40% price drop “world historic” and said it was driven by cheaper finance and growing investor confidence in India’s pledge to dramatically increase its renewable energy capacity.

It reduces the market price of solar tariffs well past the average charged by India’s largest thermal coal conglomerate, currently around 3.20 rupees per kWh . Wholesale price bids for wind energy also reached a record low of 3.46 rupees in February.

Kanika Chawla, a senior programme lead at the Delhi-based Council for Energy, Environment and Water (CEEW), said it was encouraging that Rajasthan project bidders were “new players, not the same old market leaders”.

“It shows there is enough happening to attract investment, attract interest from companies who have otherwise been cautious,” she said.

Prices were likely to drop further if the cost of borrowing money continued to fall – which she said was one of the major drivers in the record low prices this year.

“Any future incremental gains in prices will not come from the decline in technology prices, they will come from declines in the cost of finance,” she said.

Investors were also likely encouraged by a recent move to allow the state-backed Solar Energy Corporation of India to act as a guarantor in agreements between energy developers and India’s debt-ridden power distribution companies.

Tim Buckley, a director at the Institute for Energy Economics and Financial Analysis, said the most important factor driving a rush of international investment in Indian renewables was the “transparency, longevity and certainty” of the country’s energy policy.

“That is absolutely critical because when you invest for 25 to 35 years, you need certainty and clarity of policy,” he said.

“India has prime minister [Narendra] Modi saying this is his number one objective, you have energy minister [Piyush] Goyal talking about it every day. There is no doubt in anyone’s mind about Goyal’s commitment to this program and Modi’s endorsement of what Goyal’s doing,” he said.

By 2022, India aims to have the capacity to generate 175 gigawatts of power from solar, biomass and wind energy. A draft report by the country’s electricity agency in December predicted that capacity would increase to 275 gigawatts by 2027.

The same draft report said it was unlikely India would need any new coal power stations for at least 10 years, beyond the 50 gigawatts of projects already in the pipeline.

Chawla said the successive drops in renewable prices “should be celebrated” but cautioned that systemic reforms were still needed to make the trend sustainable.

Renewable energy projects also still enjoyed exemptions from some taxes that fossil fuel-generators had to pay, she added. “We need to run the numbers before we can say [unsubsidised solar] is cheaper than coal, but it’s definitely competitive,” she said.

https://www.theguardian.com/environ...ices-hit-record-low-undercutting-fossil-fuels
 

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Green tech appears to be following a familiar historical model. It is first inefficient and requires subsides, but over time the tech improves, eventually surpassing rival traditional tech. We are seeing that now as green tech continues to evolve.
 

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I'm all for green energy as long as it's honest. The Ontario government's green energy plan has sunk it into a horrific debt. I haven't seen a lot of honesty with the green energy folks, especially with their invented tax.
 

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India has very high solar potential. Geographically it is ideally situated and can provide generation just about anywhere.
Canada has a very low solar potential with basically the prairies being the only spot in Canada that solar would be viable enough to be sensible, for part of the year anyway. The rest of Canada has such a low annual potential yield that solar power would be a pointless waste of time and money.
 

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I'm all for green energy as long as it's honest. The Ontario government's green energy plan has sunk it into a horrific debt. I haven't seen a lot of honesty with the green energy folks, especially with their invented tax.

Old people from the boonies are very crabby about their Hydro bill.
 

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I'm all for green energy as long as it's honest. The Ontario government's green energy plan has sunk it into a horrific debt. I haven't seen a lot of honesty with the green energy folks, especially with their invented tax.
True. In order to be legitimate, the green energy community must follow the tradition of absolute truth at all costs set by the coal and oil companies.
 

Bar Sinister

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India has very high solar potential. Geographically it is ideally situated and can provide generation just about anywhere.
Canada has a very low solar potential with basically the prairies being the only spot in Canada that solar would be viable enough to be sensible, for part of the year anyway. The rest of Canada has such a low annual potential yield that solar power would be a pointless waste of time and money.

If green energy works in Germany then it will have no problem working in Canada. However, you have a point, some areas of Canada are much better suited to wind and hydro. Ant it appears that after much foot dragging tidal power may be possible in Nova Scotia. The nice thing about green energy is that is has so many facets. It can be generated from multiple sources.
 

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...and there is not enough of it to go around
especially in the reality of global cooling

but go ahead and freeze your nuts off anyway
:)
“We need to run the numbers before we can say [unsubsidised solar] is cheaper than coal, but it’s definitely competitive,”
riiiiigggghhht...
Aside from the fact that the whole thread is FAKE news:
fake global warming policies will kill off a lot of the poor 3rd worlders you hate so much
 

Bar Sinister

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...and there is not enough of it to go around
especially in the reality of global cooling

but go ahead and freeze your nuts off anyway
:)

riiiiigggghhht...
Aside from the fact that the whole thread is FAKE news:
fake global warming policies will kill off a lot of the poor 3rd worlders you hate so much

As I said - green energy is taking over whether you think it will work or not. Fortunately, many innovators seem to know a lot more about its use than you do.
 

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As I said - green energy is taking over whether you think it will work or not. Fortunately, many innovators seem to know a lot more about its use than you do.
Yes everyone in Vancouver are now riding bicycles .
 

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Because we keep old people alive.

Well you do provide us with an endless supply of amusement. And even sometimes a small amount of pitty for your parents.

If green energy works in Germany then it will have no problem working in Canada. However, you have a point, some areas of Canada are much better suited to wind and hydro. Ant it appears that after much foot dragging tidal power may be possible in Nova Scotia. The nice thing about green energy is that is has so many facets. It can be generated from multiple sources.

Since even you admit that we are mostly better suited to hydro power than solar why are the greenies against Site C?
 

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Old people from the boonies are very crabby about their Hydro bill.
Windsor is the boonies? Toronto is the boonies? The rest of the GTA is the boonies? Can you possibly get any dumber? In fact, Toronto Hydro is the sixth-most expensive power provider in the province despite enjoying mass density. And given the recent discussion of its aging infrastructure, there’s a good chance those rates will climb even further. You guys literally pay a couple of cents less/kWh than Innisfil. These numbers are from Oct 2016. Toronto hydro bill for using 1000 kWh of hydro: $205.61. A bill from Innpower Corporation for the same usage: $205.76
So what we can glean from this is, you don't pay a hydro bill and have likely never seen one since you're utterly clueless on this topic, as usual.
If you did have a clue, you'd realize how stupid and uneducated you are. Hawkesbury, a small rural community in Ontario has the lowest rates in the province at $173.74 for 1000 kWh of hydro usage. But if you live just down the road, you're supplied by Hydro One and you'll be shelling out $258.82 for the same usage. E.L.K. Energy provides power for Essex county communities except Windsor. Again, small rural communities. The bill for 1000 kWh of usage is $174.24. Meanwhile, Windsor residents are getting screwed, royally.
All prices include HST but not connection, delivery or the Bullsh*t Adjustment Fee.
 

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Anything that has come otta that shithole country is always garbage.
This is just another piece of garbage coming otta that craphole country.
 

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Windsor is the boonies? Toronto is the boonies? The rest of the GTA is the boonies? Can you possibly get any dumber? In fact, Toronto Hydro is the sixth-most expensive power provider in the province despite enjoying mass density. And given the recent discussion of its aging infrastructure, there’s a good chance those rates will climb even further. You guys literally pay a couple of cents less/kWh than Innisfil. These numbers are from Oct 2016. Toronto hydro bill for using 1000 kWh of hydro: $205.61. A bill from Innpower Corporation for the same usage: $205.76
So what we can glean from this is, you don't pay a hydro bill and have likely never seen one since you're utterly clueless on this topic, as usual.
If you did have a clue, you'd realize how stupid and uneducated you are. Hawkesbury, a small rural community in Ontario has the lowest rates in the province at $173.74 for 1000 kWh of hydro usage. But if you live just down the road, you're supplied by Hydro One and you'll be shelling out $258.82 for the same usage. E.L.K. Energy provides power for Essex county communities except Windsor. Again, small rural communities. The bill for 1000 kWh of usage is $174.24. Meanwhile, Windsor residents are getting screwed, royally.
All prices include HST but not connection, delivery or the Bullsh*t Adjustment Fee.


People in Toronto and the GTA are fine.
 

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Flossy conviently dropped the keyword "wholesale" from the title.

Wholesale solar power prices have reached another record low in India, faster than analysts predicted and further undercutting the price of fossil fuel-generated power in the country.

A wholesale kwh in India is 2.62 rupees.

2.62 INR = $0.0556016CAD

5 1/2 cents per kWh.

No Unifor labour sure makes power cheap

And guess what? Unifor wants to keep hydro public owned so they don't get kicked to the curb.

https://www.unifor.org/en/whats-new/news/unifor-members-rally-keep-hydro-public
 

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People in Toronto and the GTA are fine.
Still determined to prove what a clueless moron you are? Even the CITIES are getting pissed off. June, 2015, the City of Oshawa used approx $3200 in hydro to run the traffic lights and keep the street lights on at night. Final tally on their bill for that month- $151,000. When actual municipalities are complaining, you know there's a serious problem. Well you don't know apparently because you have your head shoved up the Wynned Sock's ass
 

Bar Sinister

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Yes everyone in Vancouver are now riding bicycles .


And what does that have to do with green energy? They been riding bicycles in various nations for more than a century simply because they are a cheap form of transportation and don't clog the streets.

Well you do provide us with an endless supply of amusement. And even sometimes a small amount of pitty for your parents.



Since even you admit that we are mostly better suited to hydro power than solar why are the greenies against Site C?

I've no idea what site C is. And I don't recall my post referring to hydro-power except in Nova Scotia, and that is actually tidal power.