Immigration down 25% in first quarter of 2011

Tonington

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Read post 90 again...I think you have comprehension problems .....!!

I read it again, it still sounds like you're whining. The fact that you were born here is irrelevant, but makes for good whine nonetheless.
 

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Your absolutley wrong, you don't need to be here for 40 yrs to receive old age benefit, just a Canadian citizen will do and adjusted for the yrs you have been here.
You really are not very well informed are you? I don't think you work for immigration Can. Surly they would employ brighter people than you seem to be.

Racist, because I don't agree with present immigration policies ? ? Another example of a clear lack of intellence!!
Go back to school, you are grossly in need of some education.
Perfect reply to that post, Durry







Depending where you immigrate from you can collect CPP and pension from your place of origin and actually sometime contribute more to the economy than being a native born Canadian.

CRA has no issues taxing foreign sourced retirement income the same way as domestic.

I believe I heard too that (depending where a person immigrates from,) a person can be collecting pension plan funds from country of origin and Canada pension as well.



The largest drop is in skilled workers...that's not good.

My apologies if this has been asked or explained before and I missed it. Why is it so difficult for professionals from other countries (i.e. doctors, lawyers, etc) to be in their profession in Canada? In Edmonton, I know a doctor from another country who is driving a cab and a lawyer from another country who is a janitor in a school. (and they both do speak perfect English) Is it an issue because of the countries they are from?? (however, in a town in northeast Alberta the 2 main doctors in the hospital are from South Africa)



To Corduroy , Durry,…..
…..“sponsors cannot default….. sponsor must pay the government back”…..
…..“You cannot receive old age benefits unless you've lived here for 40 years, or…..”
…..who pays for the senior they brought here?? Ans. taxpayer pays!!”
Pay gov’t back?? What are they gonna do? Garnishee wages? Ya, right… how are they going to find the sponsors? Lived here 40 years??!! Where the heck did you get that so-called info??!! It’s way less than 10 years even is it not. (more like 3?!?)
Corduroy, you say you work in immigration, I’m not calling you a liar, but some of your info leaves a lot to be desired..


 
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Tonington

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My apologies if this has been asked or explained before and I missed it. Why is it so difficult for professionals from other countries (i.e. doctors, lawyers, etc) to be in their profession in Canada? In Edmonton, I know a doctor from another country who is driving a cab and a lawyer from another country who is a janitor in a school. (and they both do speak perfect English) Is it an issue because of the countries they are from?? (however, in a town in northeast Alberta the 2 main doctors in the hospital are from South Africa)


Well, some professional degrees aren't accepted here. For instance, a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine isn't accepted unless it meets certain criteria. If the DVM degree is less than four years then it won't be accepted. There's all sorts of issues with certification, even within Canada there are issues with certification. Not all trades for example are Red Seal.

It's certainly true that some professionals come over here with less than stellar understanding. As an example, in my first research methods class, the professor who came from the Philipines told me I was wrong when I explained what the p-value was for statistical tests of findings. I told him that a p-value of 0.05 meant that the researcher would have a probability of 5% of obtaining such an extreme value when the null hypothesis is true. He told me I was wrong...which garnered many confused looks in my class, and great protests from myself. He's not at the school anymore, as we was unable to get funding for any studies, so they had to let him go. Not a great loss in my opinion...
 

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Dear Confused: Some do say keeping stats on race is useless. If so, next step would be to denounce the govt for collecting them and
wasting our tax dollars. This is a failrly big business in Canada and putting an end to it would save billions in taxes.

Try not to be fake, everyone believes in race. Oh, I'm not talking about race, "I'm talking about culture and heritage." Or it's about tracking a "community's development for informational purposes." Uh huh. Fake fake fake.
 

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If your going to build a country, you have to be able to manage the building of the country, you cannot just sit back and just let things happen and hope it all works out in the end.
Canada was built by the European and later helped by the chinese. Later other ethic groups started coming after much of the infrastructure was in place.

We were lucky, this all worked out for us. But that is not to say that without proper management we will continue to build this country successfully.

Like building anything else, you need the proper information in order to build anything so you can make proper decisions on what is going to work best.

To continue to build Canada, and to continue to immigrate a lot of people to do this, the one piece of information that we need is more information on the type of people that can best build Canada. And this is where we need more stats so that we can make the right decisions. As mentioned before, this would be a start;
- by country of origin;
-immigration welfare rate
-immigration crime rate
-immigration unemployment rate
-immigration donation to charity rate
-assimilation rate
 

Tonington

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To continue to build Canada, and to continue to immigrate a lot of people to do this, the one piece of information that we need is more information on the type of people that can best build Canada. And this is where we need more stats so that we can make the right decisions. As mentioned before, this would be a start;
- by country of origin;

Yes, well Stats Canada collects information on country of origin already, but in case you missed it this year, our Statistics Canada was weakened by narrow ideological nonsense.
 

Durry

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Yes, well Stats Canada collects information on country of origin already, but in case you missed it this year, our Statistics Canada was weakened by narrow ideological nonsense.
No, they were never collecting information like crime rate or welfare rate by country of origin. This useless Stats Can organization (which was headed up by an Indian national) felt it was not politically correct to do so. In reality, it probably would have exposed some poor images of his country men.

So, that is my point, we should have this kind of info so that we can put in place proper programs for people that come here from countries that will help keep them out of welfare programs for instance.
 

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In 2010, Canda took in 187,000 "economic" immigrants. Of the 187,000, 110,000 were spouses and dependents of principle applicants. They are bogus economic immigrants. Also in 2010, the country took in 60,000 family class immigrants, and 25,000 refugees. 280,000 immigrants came in, divide 195,000/280,000 = 70%. So, 70% of immigrants are non-economic. Thus they need huge govt support to survive.

Preliminary tables – Permanent and temporary residents, 2010

If five less immigrants came per year, and I got the tax dough instead, I'd get $17,500 per year. $3400*5 = $17,500 Half would be okay too. I want to give Canadians a break.
 

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In 2010, Canda took in 187,000 "economic" immigrants. Of the 187,000, 110,000 were spouses and dependents of principle applicants. They are bogus economic immigrants. Also in 2010, the country took in 60,000 family class immigrants, and 25,000 refugees. 280,000 immigrants came in, divide 195,000/280,000 = 70%. So, 70% of immigrants are non-economic. Thus they need huge govt support to survive.

Preliminary tables – Permanent and temporary residents, 2010

If five less immigrants came per year, and I got the tax dough instead, I'd get $17,500 per year. $3400*5 = $17,500 Half would be okay too. I want to give Canadians a break.
Is that before or after you deduct the loans that can be taken out on ea immigrant?

Human capital + human resources = human collateral.
 

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Why do you think the bail outs come out of your pocket? What do you think will happens when your share of debt is worth more than you are?

This is conspiracy and end of the world talk. A few more details would help.

I remember hearing on the radio about the USA complaining about Canadian tariffs on one thing or another. A Canadian politician replied, "Canada will always respect market principles."

You could add to that, "As a politician, I will support any principles that get me elected, market or otherwise." They say what they have to to stay in the job. Hey, it's really just all paper, and we have tons of food and resources here. I'm not worried.
 

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Stats on race are useless. No one can draw any real conclusions by looking at how Asians, for example, adapt to life in Canada, because Asian communities in Canada do not form on the basis of being Asian, they form along cultural and national lines (Chinese, Korean, Filipino, etc.). Race would be a false category. It is more useful to track people as a community based around culture and shared heritage. If the community remains cohesive (like the Chinese community in Vancouver) then it's useful to track that community's development in Canada - at least for informational purposes and to measure the success of integration. Incidentally, the Chinese community is extremely successful in Canada.

Does this say something about Chinese people? Well, Chinese people in other places aren't as successful and sometimes they are more successful. Chinese people in China are all differently successful (most of them poor). What factors into Chinese success in Canada is not some racial characteristic or cultural one. Some culture yes, but probably more an immigrant culture not a Chinese one. It's mostly circumstance, I'd say. It is certainly circumstance in China and there are places in the world where the Chinese diaspora makes up ruling elite.

If the community was no longer cohesive, statistics would be less significant. But their conditions in earlier times could still affect them. The Chinese community at the moment is largely urban. If the Chinese community over time breaks down as a community, assimilates and intermarries more, they may no longer stand out as much from the general population, though they would still likely be concentrated in urban areas and economically and educationally match the urban population more than the rural one (and their early economic and educational success would carry over to their descendents.

It is probably the case with Europeans that individual nationalities have melded together and it wouldn't be significant to separate them and, say, determine the success of Germans compared to the British and French populations. But, as Germans were in the past concentrated in the prairies provinces, you might find a slightly prairie character to statistics on the German population. Who knows? Trends in recent European immigrants can be tracked, though there are fewer of them. And the French, of course, have remained a separate community owing to their size and political and cultural organization.

A good non-white example of less cohesive community would be the Japanese community in Richmond, BC. This community maintains its self-identification but is for the most part culturally completely integrated. They are on their 4th generation now, I believe. In the past, theirs was a fishing community and as such the Japanese people in Richmond tend to be working class (and due to changes in the area's economy, suburban middle class.) (there was also the internment camps and state-sponsored theft of their homes and livelihoods during the war that contributed) Chinese in Richmond tend to be more wealthy and more white collar, despite their more recent arrival. The Japanese and Chinese are both Asian, but the differences between them makes it useless to measure them as a group together.

In case you didn't know, Dear confused is you. Race is real, one of those things in the world that isn't properly scientific but exists anyway. And tracking different peoples/races in Canada is a fascinating sociological exercise. Everyone is doing it, which I guess makes it okay. But I'm not making any money off it, I'm losing in fact. Paying people to come here?!?!?!?!

If it makes you feel bettter, I suggest tracking people by country of origin to Canada. The poor performing countries get to send fewer immigrants and the better performing countries more. This is what companies do with poor performing salespeople and waiters, you're in the bottom in sales for three months? You're fired!
 

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In case you didn't know, Dear confused is you. Race is real, one of those things in the world that isn't properly scientific but exists anyway. And tracking different peoples/races in Canada is a fascinating sociological exercise. Everyone is doing it, which I guess makes it okay. But I'm not making any money off it, I'm losing in fact. Paying people to come here?!?!?!?!

If it makes you feel bettter, I suggest tracking people by country of origin to Canada. The poor performing countries get to send fewer immigrants and the better performing countries more. This is what companies do with poor performing salespeople and waiters, you're in the bottom in sales for three months? You're fired!
How much does it cost to get into Canada? What percentage of the world's population makes more than $5 a day? 10%? 20%? 50% 70%?
 

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A&W names their burgers for family titles: mama burger, papa burger, teen burger. They obviously have a pro- traditional family agenda. Where's the single mama burger or the same-sex couple burger? Celebrity adopted Asian daughter burger?