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Another blanket, that one looks to about be worn out and you're still here, I mean 'look cold' of course? Trust me, I'm white. Not like the ones that came before me. Comanches warning to moon people, 'Don't trust these people, they are after your land.'
 

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What would anyone here consider a true "Christian"
One who reads the bible and goes to church every Sunday and pays tithe to the church of his choice...or......
Those who might do like I do; haven't been to church services in years, except for weddings and funerals, don't do any physical harm to man or beast...hell, I don't even blow my snow in the neighbor's yard in the winter....

"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!" (Philippians 2:5-8 NIV)

Embrace Christ, DS. In His mindset, we can selflessly serve.
 

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"In your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus:

Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;
rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature of a servant,
being made in human likeness.
And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!" (Philippians 2:5-8 NIV)

Embrace Christ, DS. In His mindset, we can selflessly serve.
Mangeux de Ballustre! is what you are....
 

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So? Other religions, and the other organizations I referred to, also have long strings of good deeds. I don't deny the good that Christians, churches, and Christianity have done. I'm not even saying (at this point) the harms outweigh the goods. I'm just saying that the good of Christians, churches, and Christianity, compared to the bad, don't seem to be far off average for large organizations and individuals in those large organizations.



Indeed, probably not much different from your local Rotary Club.
 

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What would anyone here consider a true "Christian"
One who reads the bible and goes to church every Sunday and pays tithe to the church of his choice...or......
Those who might do like I do; haven't been to church services in years, except for weddings and funerals, don't do any physical harm to man or beast...hell, I don't even blow my snow in the neighbor's yard in the winter....
Long list. that must keep you busy. One in the list would be enough, the rest is done t impress your neighbors rather than to impress God. Perhaps this bit from the Bible will help you see which one in the list is the most valuable one while the rest are 'fluff'.

Lu:18:9-17:
And he spake this parable unto certain which trusted in themselves that they were righteous,
and despised others:
Two men went up into the temple to pray;
the one a Pharisee,
and the other a publican.
The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself,
God,
I thank thee,
that I am not as other men are,
extortioners,
unjust, adulterers,
or even as this publican.
I fast twice in the week,
I give tithes of all that I possess.
And the publican,
standing afar off,
would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven,
but smote upon his breast,
saying,
God be merciful to me a sinner.
I tell you, this man went down to his house justified rather than the other:
for every one that exalteth himself shall be abased;
and he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.
And they brought unto him also infants,
that he would touch them:
but when his disciples saw it,
they rebuked them.
But Jesus called them unto him,
and said,
Suffer little children to come unto me,
and forbid them not:
for of such is the kingdom of God.
Verily I say unto you,
Whosoever shall not receive the kingdom of God as a little child shall in no wise enter therein.
 

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I'm just saying that the good of Christians, churches, and Christianity, compared to the bad, don't seem to be far off average for large organizations and individuals in those large organizations.

I would entertain any significant data supporting your statement, TB.

Mangeux de Ballustre! is what you are....

Je suis un mendiant qui dit à un autre de trouver du pain.
 

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I would entertain any significant data supporting your statement, TB.
Sure.

Good: Hospitals, schools, libraries.

Bad: Genocide, child abuse, slavery, war.

Micro-scale good: Trillions of acts of kindness.

Micro-scale bad: Trillions of acts of perfidy, dishonesty, and cruelty perpetrated by people who swore themselves Christians.
 

Motar

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... acts of perfidy, dishonesty, and cruelty perpetrated by people who swore themselves Christians.

Your puzzle in post #13 is answered in the key words "swore themselves", TB.

"Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of." (Luke 6:44-45 NIV)
 

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Your puzzle in post #13 is answered in the key words "swore themselves", TB.

"Each tree is recognized by its own fruit. People do not pick figs from thornbushes, or grapes from briers. A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in his heart, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in his heart. For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of." (Luke 6:44-45 NIV)
"If we did a good act merely from the love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist?"

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Law, 13 June 1814
 

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Je suis un mendiant qui dit à un autre de trouver du pain.
This sentence brought back an old memory of a song my mother sang many, many years ago...
It's almost word for word a line in the song, I still remember the words to the song...
Found it on youtube, you might like it!
Thanks for the memory!
Edit: Mom sang it without the New Brunswick accent, she came from Maniwaki...:lol:
[youtube]tZcq0yl3E6E[/youtube]


Megahurtz....................Take your damn pills!
 
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"If we did a good act merely from the love of God and a belief that it is pleasing to Him, whence arises the morality of the Atheist?"

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to Thomas Law, 13 June 1814

Our morality is only as good as the standard that informs it, TB.

Mr. Jefferson has juxtaposed biblical law and social consensus. Biblical law is based upon the immutable character of God who is the same yesterday, today and forever. Social consensus leans upon the social opinions of the day which flux and fall with each succeeding generation.
 

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Our morality is only as good as the standard that informs it, TB.

Mr. Jefferson has juxtaposed biblical law and social consensus. Biblical law is based upon the immutable character of God who is the same yesterday, today and forever. Social consensus leans upon the social opinions of the day which flux and fall with each succeeding generation.
Most Christians say biblical law changed at least once, probably twice, in the bible itself. First time when Jesus died and rose again, and second time in Acts when the apostles said non-Jewish Christians didn't have to follow most of the laws.
 

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Most Christians say biblical law changed at least once, probably twice, in the bible itself. First time when Jesus died and rose again, and second time in Acts when the apostles said non-Jewish Christians didn't have to follow most of the laws.

"Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished." (Matthew 5:17-18 NIV)

"So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets." (Matthew 7:12 NIV)

“Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?” Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." (Matthew 22:36-40 NIV)

"Do we, then, nullify the law by this faith? Not at all! Rather, we uphold the law." (Romans 3:31 NIV)

"For in my inner being I delight in God’s law;" (Romans 7:23 NIV)

"The mind governed by the flesh is hostile to God; it does not submit to God’s law, nor can it do so." (Romans 8:7 NIV)

"Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes." (Romans 10:4 NIV)

"Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for whoever loves others has fulfilled the law." (Romans 13:8 NIV)

A few New Testament selections among many (275) concerning the continuing validity of God's standards, TB.