From the standpoint of nurturing a family who is likely to make a better wife...an American feminist or a Muslim immigrant to America?
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Why do you have so many people calling you out as an idiot?
Stick around a while, more will come along and tell you the same thing.
The one who had the better mother.
which ever is the most loving, giving, understanding and supportive while also able to fight for what she may know is best for the family/partner even if it means going against the opposing ideas of her spouse if necessary
Hmm... I think you're confusing "wife" with "mother".
The Muslim immigrant would probably do a better job raising the kids, but I think the feminist would be more fun in bed.
no it is more than that, it is a package, those who do the least amount of damage to their kids are the best parents...all parents damage their kids, it's the human condition, we are all weak and make mistakes, we are not perfect and even the mistakes a parent makes can make a positive impact on their kid....if a kid actually feels loved, they will survive and thrive even in the worst of environments.
Good....again Bravo...The importance of your comments to me and the others who are just names on the screen is directly to the intelligence quota that I assign to you....which ain't much.
But you have finally found dancing partners with your relative intelligence....have fun!
How can a "me me me me' feminist who is centered on herself possibly be the better mother?
no they will not but they mightThe one who had the better mother will usually say Allahu Akbar.
The most nurturing mother will be the one willing to sacrifice her own interests for the sake of the family. The same is true for a father.
There is a young Muslim woman who apparently seeks admittance to my clan as the wife of one of my sons. This has given me an opportunity to observe her at length. She says she is a modern feminist, but I can tell she is not. Her background makes her the closest thing to an old fashioned girl from around 1960. That is good.
Why are old fashioned girls better mothers than feminists? An old fashioned girl will place the interests of the family first. Modern feminists aren't psychologically capable of sacrificing their own bests interests for the sake of the children.
Feminism is about self-actualization first and foremost. Nurturing children is a subordinate consideration.
my mother was a feminist in many many ways way ahead of her time...she taught me to look for a male like my dad, one who actually believes we are equal, my mother worked out of the home, my mother did not kowtow to society my mother was her own woman and taught me to be my own woman, and my father, loved admired respected and adored her. If I could have chosen my parents from a book (which I actually believe I did) I could not have chosen more loving, giving and balanced people. I did not know women were not supposed to be equal until I left home to go to school.How can a "me me me me' feminist who is centered on herself possibly be the better mother?
one should not judge by a label
You're kidding, right? Another creature's life? People whack down trees, squash bugs, pollute everything in sight which means species extinction in some cases. etc. Humans are important to humans, not so much to the rest of the life on this planet. Even that goofy book of fables called the Bible hints at humans being the caretaker of the planet, not the destroyer. Sorry, but even in that Biblical sense, everyone's morals needs an upgrade and is complicit in a variety of moral terpitudes, so it's pretty two-faced to condemn others for being immoral.
Like I said quite often in the past, morals are relative.
Would I choose to end a life for convenience? No, but then convenience is also a relative term as I indicated by posting those stats from Sleepy's link.
In a more ideal world, no-one would have mitigating circumstances like lack of food, shelter, medical care, etc., though. However, this isn't an ideal world, so not including that reality is futile and immaterial.
I've stated my position on abortion plenty of times in here, so once more won't hurt. I don't think a potential human life is a person until it is able to survive outside the womb (somewhere around 20 weeks). Fetuses are rarely aborted after that. Fetuses before that are potential people, but then so is human sperm and human ova; living but not complete life any more than a seed from a pine cone is a pine tree. Personally, the only reason I would suggest abortion is if there were dire medical circumstances. Other than that I suggest making certain contraceptive methods free and available to all and if a baby is inevitable, then adoption should be free and available.
Oh, and abstinence is a ridiculous suggestion simply because we humans have the ability to enjoy sex. If you want to quote the Bible, you'd better take a look at it again because as far as I could discover, it only states that infidelity is a sin. If it said anything about sex between unmarried people being a sin, I couldn't find it or remember it.
WOW, no wonder there is a feminist movement with people like you still stuck in that stone-age mentality. I guess you are just proving my point that most of the deepest reasons the anti-abortion crowd have are rooted in their desire for masculine control over women and their bodies.
if one is self actualized one is a better human being for everyone as they encourage self actualization for all, you can not generalize about the human spirit ...
I just can't agree that American feminists are willing to ever subordinate their own interests. A person cannot serve two masters faithfully. It's self-actualization or prioritizing the children. One can't do both.
There just is no evidence that is the case.
A lion can never transform itself into a lamb.
I provoke you over and over. From that you assume you have some insight into my mind and heart. That's one dimensional thinking.
From what I gather you are saying that there is no such thing as an abortion for pure convenience. Is that correct?
no she will not, she will place her children's needs in front of her wants, but she will place her own needs in front of their wants...it's called balance, if she has no balance she can be as self sacrificing as you wish and her children will be totally and completely messed up
I could say the same about your comment.
If a mother is a lamb good frigging luck to the survival of her kids when then lion comes a knocking, and the lion will come a knockin'